Has anyone considered getting a 991.2 Carrera/S

[nicknaz]

I'd get a gt4 vs 991

Funny how it used to be the top model Porsche was turbo but now all the base models are turbo and the top models are NA!

[Motorsportenterprise]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

I'd get a gt4 vs 991

Funny how it used to be the top model Porsche was turbo but now all the base models are turbo and the top models are NA!

Until the new GT2 and GT2 RS models are released. The GT3 has always been and is the top dog with regard to trackable street cars, no matter who the brand. The GT2 itself has always been an incredible car but a bit more extreme.
At the same time, it is nice to see at least one brand who will stick to N/A engines at all.

[ghost34]

I'm shooting for a 2-3 year old targa 4s in 2021. F, that's seems like a crazy far out number.

[Brosef]

Originally Posted by Motorsportenterprise

Until the new GT2 and GT2 RS models are released. The GT3 has always been and is the top dog with regard to trackable street cars, no matter who the brand. The GT2 itself has always been an incredible car but a bit more extreme.
At the same time, it is nice to see at least one brand who will stick to N/A engines at all.

you're back!

[MPerformance211]

Originally Posted by Brosef

you're back!

I had the same thing written last night but decided not to post it...........it's him for sure.

join date for new name just happens to coincide with his ban date as former name. Too funny.

[ASAP]

Originally Posted by nicknaz

I'd get a gt4 vs 991

Funny how it used to be the top model Porsche was turbo but now all the base models are turbo and the top models are NA!

And the really really top models... are Eco Hybrids...

[BMWdrmz]

Nope. I crossed shop the M4 with the 991 turbo and 991 Carrera S. I ended up liking the M4 more. I wanted a sports coupe with real trunk space, real back seats, and that wouldn't break the bank to tune/ mod. I also found the ergonomics better in the M4. And when I want to drive something high strung that is sex on wheels, I'll get into my 458 or R8 (now sold). I really want to like the 911, but every time I drive one, I'm left wanting more. There are other cars that fit the bill better for daily driver/occasional canyon carving use better than the Carrera S. The price of the Turbo / Turbo S puts it into another class of car and if I'm going to spend that type of money then I'm going to buy something that looks the part as well as go the part. I suppose if I didn't have a wife and two kids, I might look at the 911 differently. For me, it just don't meet my needs.

[CSanto]

Prob be a great idea to get a gently used 991.1 GTS. 430 NA hp. Pretty nice car for the money.

[nicknaz]

Originally Posted by CSanto

Prob be a great idea to get a gently used 991.1 GTS. 430 NA hp. Pretty nice car for the money.

I was getting my wife's X1 serviced the other day and there was a used 991 S for sale in the mid $70s

Pretty tempting choice, as compared to the loaded up M4, M6 GC and other new cars that were at the dealership. Frankly, the huge depreciation / comparable pricing of used 911 to heavily option new F8x is why I kept my F80 stripped down!

[hawkerdriver]

After having an F83 and an F80 I have decided to find a '14 991 S or 4S.
I've been with BMW for about 20 years and love their cars, however I'm ready make a jump to P

[deemo319]

Considering a new 991.2 GTS Cabriolet. 7-speed manual, GT Silver Metallic, Red Top, Garnet Red Leather, LED Lights, illuminated Carbon Fiber Door Sills, Turbo Rims, Grey seat belts, Porsche Crests in headrests and every surface that can be covered in red leather would be covered.

[CSanto]

Originally Posted by deemo319

Considering a new 991.2 GTS Cabriolet. 7-speed manual, GT Silver Metallic, Red Top, Garnet Red Leather, LED Lights, illuminated Carbon Fiber Door Sills, Turbo Rims, Grey seat belts, Porsche Crests in headrests and every surface that can be covered in red leather would be covered.

The only thing is that this car optioned new will MSRP at 140k. Completely completely different price point than F8X

We really need to look at cars between 70 and 85 NEW.

[W///]

Originally Posted by CSanto

Prob be a great idea to get a gently used 991.1 GTS. 430 NA hp. Pretty nice car for the money.

I think that'll be the one I want in the future. They're such cool cars and don't see too many of themin my neck of the woods

[JoeFromPA]

My wife and I have been talking this over a bit and I have to say: I think for my own personal happiness I'll get alot more joy out of an older 911 (i.e. aircooled) than a new one for fun driving. Not talking track duty.

Their used prices are a bit out of control, but their costs to maintain are pretty reasonable.

[georgere]

If u did t have kids, I would drive Porsche new or used depending on my budget.

[bates1325]

991.2 is not enough of a difference for me from the 991.1 in my opinion. See if you can pick up a last minute 991.1 at the dealer and get the blow out versus paying near MSRP for the first few months of the 991.2. I would maybe even pick up a low mileage 991.1 S for a good deal as well.

[j997tt]

I just traded my M4 for a very low mileage 2012 997 4 GTS. I searched for a long time. I loved the M but wanted to go back to a P-car. 991.1 did not do it for me and I am not a used car buyer ordinarily. Don't want a turbo 992.2. I was drawn back to the 997.2. It is a small, agile car, visceral and raw. The steering feel is unbelievable. In general, can't touch the M4 performance wise and the tech is older but I don't care. It just feels right.

I am very happy with the car and probably will never sell it. At the same time, I will always have fond spot for M cars...

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by W///

Definitely. It's a 911 and I love them....

... until I built a base Carrera (without going overboard with options) and ended up with a $99k car. For a base model? No thanks.

I agree with this. I definitely considered it, but if I'm going to hit the six figure car purchasing stratosphere, I'm going for the real thing: a GT2/GT3/911R.

[W///]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I agree with this. I definitely considered it, but if I'm going to hit the six figure car purchasing stratosphere, I'm going for the real thing: a GT2/GT3/911R.

Well I know a 911R or GT2 will never happen, but a GT4 would have been somewhat doable. Hell, I think I'd even rather have the Boxster Spyder.

My problem with the Carreras is that in 3 years, they'll be worth 30-40% less. That's too much money for me to lose. Makes more sense to get a CPO at that point IMO.

[Motorsportenterprise]

Originally Posted by W///

Well I know a 911R or GT2 will never happen, but a GT4 would have been somewhat doable. Hell, I think I'd even rather have the Boxster Spyder.

My problem with the Carreras is that in 3 years, they'll be worth 30-40% less. That's too much money for me to lose. Makes more sense to get a CPO at that point IMO.

Most cars will drop a lot in 3 year but given what the 991s are selling for, I doubt that number is reflective of what will take place considering they only continue to get more expensive and are holding value very well given the original cars are already 4 years old (2012 models). Id expect a maybe 20% drop over the next 3 years but possibility they may trend upward depending on buyers (still undetermined how current owners will move or not move on the turbo 911s). 991s are also not all that common based on production numbers. If you look at the trends of the 997 and even some 996 models, they have hit a price point and are not moving from there. A clean 996 turbo is still worth 50k and a clean 996 GT3 are still 70-80k. Same with The 997 generation cars. 997 if is, GT3 models and even the Carreras and GTS are still not dropping much. Guess it will be interesting to see but I see them staying at a leve price.

[W///]

Originally Posted by Motorsportenterprise

Most cars will drop a lot in 3 year but given what the 991s are selling for, I doubt that number is reflective of what will take place considering they only continue to get more expensive and are holding value very well given the original cars are already 4 years old (2012 models). Id expect a maybe 20% drop over the next 3 years. If you look at the trends of the 997 and even some 996 models, they have hit a price point and are not moving from there. A clean 996 turbo is still worth 50k and a clean 996 GT3 are still 70-80k. Same with The 997 generation cars. 997 if is, GT3 models and even the Carreras and GTS are still not dropping much. Guess it will be interesting to see but I see them staying at a leve price.

Yea, I might have gone too much with the 40%. Still don't depreciate anywhere as much as M5/6's.

The GT's and Turbos definitely hold their value well, but they are well out of my budget. But Carreras just don't hold their values anywhere like that. I know because of the color and prob the fact it's a MT, this one is going for way less than what I thought it should. Really cool car:
http://www.carmax.com/enus/view-car/...results%20page

So that car is 2-3 years old, most likely a little over $100k new and it's down to $72k.

I'd be curious if the GTS follows the Carreras or are closer to the GT cars in terms of depreciation.

[Motorsportenterprise]

Originally Posted by W///

Yea, I might have gone too much with the 40%. Still don't depreciate anywhere as much as M5/6's.

The GT's and Turbos definitely hold their value well, but they are well out of my budget. But Carreras just don't hold their values anywhere like that. I know because of the color and prob the fact it's a MT, this one is going for way less than what I thought it should. Really cool car:
http://www.carmax.com/enus/view-car/...results%20page

So that car is 2-3 years old, most likely a little over $100k new and it's down to $72k.

I'd be curious if the GTS follows the Carreras or are closer to the GT cars in terms of depreciation.

Very true on the m5/6, and M cars in general, but applies to most Amgs too and generally anything expensive can drop a lot.

As for the GTS models, the 997s are still holding very high and are pretty rare so I think they'll hold.

That car you posted is just a base 991, and had an orig I believe of around high 80s (minimal options) so overall not much value lost even though it's about 3 years old.