Anyone else get banned from the G8X section for making fun of its looks?

[fiveohwblow]

Originally Posted by irunalot

Watching that video is 10 minutes 34 seconds of my life that I can't get back. Can people with some common sense please review the car. I couldn't care less what the bling and burnout reviewers have to say. Everyone's gonna want one when it does 10s bruh, so they say. That crowd makes me embarrassed to own a M car, I want zero association with that group. In that case glad they love the G8x.

Have fun running 10s in a straight line in that boat, I'll be doing laps in the old car. Man but no drift meter to measure my ego and post on the gram.

I presume he tunes better than he “lifes” or so I hope for his sake.

[irunalot]

Originally Posted by fiveohwblow

I presume he tunes better than he “lifes” or so I hope for his sake.

For his sake I sure hope so smh

If your going to do dumb shit, don't record it.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Arcades

GT3 at list is hard but do-able. It's also depending on your location.

Cars like the GT3RS is harder to find at MSRP unless the car has sat for a while and the dealership cannot move them. Then they sell at MSRP to move them because people will buy them immediately if seen at MSRP.

That was the case with the dealership I am very well acquainted with. They had like... 5 GT3RS, 991.2 sitting close to 1 year. Then suddenly, they were all gone. I asked and the GSM told me basically they removed the markup, just sold them at MSRP and all of them were snatched up within a month.

I have been told they have to mark up the soon to come GT4RS as well as the 992 GT3. By how much I am not sure.

There's a massive price jump (+30%) from GT3 to GT3RS...

[GrussGott]

Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

with that the track things we like doing are also going away for everyone except the wealthiest among us. Sad to see.

I heard that in the 80s as a kid: computers and FI were destroying track life and only the wealthy with mechanics & computers would be able to track. Didn't happen ... but I suppose it depends on what you mean by "track things".

I fully expect in 10-15 years there'll be a new generation of track rats modding w/ supercaps as the new NOS and mounting high-tech battery cooling systems while they tweak the discharge & cooling algorithms.

If "track things" is tracking a car, it's going to get faster and cheaper, unless you meant ICE ... which also might get faster and cheaper as the market moves to dedicated use-cases. e.g., You can still race a horse for pretty cheap even though you don't see them on the freeway anymore.

Originally Posted by minn19

GT4 ... is so fun on the street/backroads though so I don't give a shit what they think.

Kinda where I ended up 10 years ago ... HPDEs are fun, but I have way more fun more frequently on canyon runs ... and reportedly some people do block, clear, and sweep backcountry runs for those in the more sporting mood, but even that isn't real track stuff.

It's kinda like mountain biking: I get why people do organized races, but that's too much hassle to me, I just like gettin out there as much as I can.

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

It's not like I haven't heard negative things about prior M's. Every new iteration it's something.

Similar in kind, but difference in degree is a big principle of law enforcement, no?

Originally Posted by minn19

Somewhat agreed and BMW/people should expect this though when you start pricing stuff into Porsche territory. Most people who can afford a 105-120k M4CS are just going to keep going to a Carrera S because it is a better car that holds its value better. Or say screw it like me who was looking at a manual M2CS and went for the Cayman instead because they were priced similarly.

BMW hurts itself when they try to market themselves as good as Porsche

Exactly - BMW needs to stop trying to be what it isn't: Porsche. There's a reason BMW has to underwrite so many leases: those are their people. Embrace it. Be it.

CanAutM3 nailed it: BMW needs to be the best mix of european designed performance & practicality for the best price ... and continue underwriting leases.

The BMW board has really made some horrible strategic decisions in the last 10 years and all of the same variety: how do we follow better? Try leading dipshits. The one time their tried it with EVs they got cold feet and abandoned ship at exactly the time EVs were starting to take off.

The BMW board needs to be wiped clean: yes they did good job capitalizing on the SUV craze, but in every other market and category they're perpetual followers always trying to be what they're not.

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

There's a massive price jump (+30%) from GT3 to GT3RS...

Well, if the car is already 190k basically, then you add in markup, it's going to come close to 220k or even more depending on the option. People are picky, some just prefer the GT3 because you get the same amount in a car.

You can kind of see it like a M3 Comp vs a M3 CS/GTS. Not everyone is willing to pay even more for just something a tad more when you can get close to that in a "basic" GT3 to begin with.

You do also have to take into the account of scalpers. Which Porsche mentioned they do not like but have no real control over who buys/sells etc etc. They know how much they can sell the car for, so they won't buy it at a certain price.

Scalpers like that are every where now a days, shoes, video cards for computers, cars etc. Real bastards.

Edit: Most GT3s will come at least close to 180k give or take a few thousand depending on options. Think option wise, usually 15k in added options on average. You add in markup, most of the time the car will come close to the base GT3RS MSRP.

[bm323]

Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

Please show where I insulted others

Clearly here below, which I had marked out in post #3258

Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

So... how many of you Porsche guys promise you will leave Bimmerpost?

I am looking forward to the day you all move to Rennlist and leave the M forums for BMW people. Very excite!! This is even better than 2016 when celebrities were promising to leave if someone was elected president.

In the condescending post above, you clearly think YOU are one of the "BMW people", superior to other forummers here whom YOU regard as NON BMW people; they should not be posting in M forums in YOUR view. Is this not insulting these forummers?

[No Boost]

I miss Funf6cyl

[kyrix1st]

Originally Posted by Arcades

You can kind of see it like a M3 Comp vs a M3 CS/GTS. Not everyone is willing to pay even more for just something a tad more when you can get close to that in a "basic" GT3 to begin with.

Touching up on the M4, F8x was different. M4 comp came with pretty much everything you can hope for a base track/street car, CS offered very little advantage and GTS was way overpriced for what it is.

G8x now has neutered transmission and is much heavier, so unless CS/CSL brings something special other than the obvious weight saving(which I suspect they made it heavier on purpose so CS/CSL becomes more desirable) it is not going to impress.

[White340]

Originally Posted by irunalot

Watching that video is 10 minutes 34 seconds of my life that I can't get back. Can people with some common sense please review the car. I couldn't care less what the bling and burnout reviewers have to say. Everyone's gonna want one when it does 10s bruh, so they say. That crowd makes me embarrassed to own a M car, I want zero association with that group. In that case glad they love the G8x.

Have fun running 10s in a straight line in that boat, I'll be doing laps in the old car. Man but no drift meter to measure my ego and post on the gram.

Yeah that was a terrible review.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by kyrix1st

Touching up on the M4, F8x was different. M4 comp came with pretty much everything you can hope for a base track/street car, CS offered very little advantage and GTS was way overpriced for what it is.

G8x now has neutered transmission and is much heavier, so unless CS/CSL brings something special other than the obvious weight saving(which I suspect they made it heavier on purpose so CS/CSL becomes more desirable) it is not going to impress.

Say all the ones that do not own a CS. The fact that I am 2.5 seconds faster at my local track than I was with my previous M4 ON THE SAME TIRES is very telling to me. It drives that much better. While I agree that the CS was way overpriced in the US from an MSRP standpoint, I find it is well worth the ~$12k premium I actually paid over a CP.

It’s actually how good the CS is that has me questioning the G8X. I have no doubts a competition G8X will be faster than a CP F8X, but I doubt it will offer much improvement over a F82cs. And in Canada, a decently optioned G82C retails at F82cs levels. Not worth it to me.

[stein_325i]

[irunalot]

Man, that sounds worse than it looks. One of the comments states it’s a video and that never depicts the true sound. Anyone ever complain about the LFA, GT3, 458 exhaust on video? Maybe a Tesla owner but no one else.

This is like saying it doesn't photograph well. Of course, it’s ugly, why would it photograph well?

[irunalot]

BMW is also making me start to hate carbon fiber. Its like chrome for modern times.

If its used for weight saving like the hood or roof great. They have forgotten form follows function.

[White340]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

A carbon fiber diffuser is 4+ grand with the stock exhaust. The MPE requires a new diffuser due to the Lexus designed tip setup. We know the f8x MPE was about 5k new. Can't wait to see what the g8x MPE cost with that diffuser...

[irunalot]

Should probably check with a Lexus parts department for the price.

Here is another link. The comments are always priceless. These are also not from dyed in the wool bimmer folks.

https://carbuzz.com/news/2021-bmw-m3...ounds-horrible

[SYT_Shadow]

Originally Posted by No Boost

I miss Funf6cyl

Fortunately, that troll was banned. Although he's back for the 4th time under a different name.
Even in Rennlist people called him out for being a Porsche fanboy

[Tecnniqe]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

For a cold start that sounded pretty damn tame, even as a video
F8X MPE sounds better IMO and doesn't look like poop

If they wanted to showcase this properly, they should invest in equipment that captures it as pure as they can... Maybe it's just the OPF/GPF making it sound this way, I don't know...

[Tecnniqe]

Originally Posted by irunalot

Should probably check with a Lexus parts department for the price.

Here is another link. The comments are always priceless. These are also not from dyed in the wool bimmer folks.

https://carbuzz.com/news/2021-bmw-m3...ounds-horrible

I bring you some comments like

"Sounds like a 4 stroke dirtbike lmao... wtf."

"Sounds like a 50cc mope ticking over, rather a more throaty burble like a scuby wrx sti and the crackling blow back like an ak47 at high revs"

"It does not sound much better .... however they are ugly as hell.... still thumbs up for S55 MPE sound"

"Sounds crap ....my m140i with the m perfomance exaust sounds great compared to these ...."

"Now is a great time to own an F80 M3/M4..."

"BMW has lost it’s way"

"Nice Lexus!"

I'm not seeing any overly positive things here and to me stock sounds and looks better than this... thing.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by SYT_Shadow

Fortunately, that troll was banned. Although he's back for the 4th time under a different name.
Even in Rennlist people called him out for being a Porsche fanboy

He is/was over the top annoying. What is his name on RL?

[SYT_Shadow]

Originally Posted by minn19

He is/was over the top annoying. What is his name on RL?

PM'd

[minn19]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

Yah that's not good. The only redeeming thing from the other video was I thought the stock exhaust sounded really good from inside the car. But, who knows what is real and what is software via the speakers anymore.

[stein_325i]

Found this photo on the G8X forum.