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      11-13-2019, 02:18 PM   #23
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I guess better late then never...

Your thread for dinantronics for s55 went dead, after people who got those piggybacks and didn't make any power.... remember a lot of pissed people
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      11-13-2019, 02:32 PM   #24
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What about Stage 2 (i.e w downpipes) ?
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      11-13-2019, 02:40 PM   #25
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What does your testing suggest about the crank hub? What is the likely cause and what is the failure rate?
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      11-13-2019, 02:40 PM   #26
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Is the plan to make this like APR+ with participating dealers able to handle any warranty claims?
APR+ was modeled after Dinan but we are changing the warrantied variant name to follow more closely with APR lingo since now we are offering a non-warranty version as well.

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Probably want to correct your website description regarding the warranty on these tunes

Presently your site states:

"Dinan + variants of engine software also carry the infamous Dinan 4yr / 50k, factory matching warranty that the brand is synonymous with."
lol, fixed.

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@Dinan_Engineering the Dinan Stage 1 is $899 and the Dinan Plus is $1799. Can you clarify a bit more the differences?
Dinan + = Factory matching warranty. No additional hard parts needed. Limited power gain.
Dinan +HE = Factory matching warranty. Requires heat exchanger. Modest power gains.
Stage 1 = Limited Lifetime warranty, DOES NOT match factory warranty. No requirements but heat exchanger is recommended. Multiple octane maps to select from. Maximum power gains.

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Will a specific N55 M2 stage 4 flash tune be released?....a tune to replace the stage 4 Dinantronics piggyback?
Yes. N55 flashes will most likely be the next to be released.
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      11-13-2019, 02:50 PM   #27
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What about Stage 2 (i.e w downpipes) ?
Dinan aims to have a completely legal product lineup so we do not entertain emissions defeat products.

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What does your testing suggest about the crank hub? What is the likely cause and what is the failure rate?
We have never had a development car crank hub fail and as far as I am aware the few warranty claims associated with crank hub failures that have come up over the years through the warranty process have all had other factors involved (money shifts, stupid amount of power applied to the engine via alternative tuning, etc).
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      11-13-2019, 03:14 PM   #28
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This is awesome. I have an OBD reader how can I check to see what version ECU/DME I have to determine if I can have it flashed as is or if we need to send back to Dinan and suffer downtime. Also if we do have to send dinan the ecu what is the turnaround time?
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      11-13-2019, 03:17 PM   #29
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Well this tune would suck if you have a comp package car and looking to retain the warranty.
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      11-13-2019, 03:22 PM   #30
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This is awesome. I have an OBD reader how can I check to see what version ECU/DME I have to determine if I can have it flashed as is or if we need to send back to Dinan and suffer downtime. Also if we do have to send dinan the ecu what is the turnaround time?
Will need to have the car scanned at a Dinan dealer to determine compatibility of box codes / bootloader version. If it does need to be sent back for a bootloader back date we process and send those the same day we get them (assuming we get them in time for normal pickup cutoffs). If its a new box code that requires porting or a new map (new box code) then that usually takes a few days but would not require the DME to be sent in (unless the boot loader also needs to be back dated).
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      11-13-2019, 03:23 PM   #31
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Get those 1/4 mile times yet?
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      11-13-2019, 03:38 PM   #32
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Get those 1/4 mile times yet?
No new ones. The next track oriented calibration trip is going to some Porsche event this weekend or next and the M3 will be out there but I'm pretty sure its just a road course and not a drag strip.

For those that may not have seen these in the previous thread --- here you go.

"Real World" Results (1/4 mile times)

Please note that the times below were taken in an Alabama summer where conditions were FAR from ideal so our customers with the flash will almost, without a doubt, achieve better times. That said they still show clear improvements with each successive step.

Stock 91 – 12.197 @ 113.76
91- 11.69 @ 118.84 mph
93- 11.62 @ 119.96 mph
E85- 11.314 @123.6mph
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      11-13-2019, 04:10 PM   #33
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From what I gather (S55 - 91 Dyno's.):

* +20Hp. for $900.00
* +34Hp. for an ("H.E.") additional $728.00 (+Install.)

Am I wrong here or is this no where near being worth it ?!?


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      11-13-2019, 04:41 PM   #34
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From what I gather (S55 - 91 Dyno's.):

* +20Hp. for $900.00
* +34Hp. for an ("H.E.") additional $728.00 (+Install.)

Am I wrong here or is this no where near being worth it ?!?


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I think there is a bit of confusion here in general.

You are stating pricing for Stage 1 tuning but then referencing the HE tune which is different pricing and a separate thing altogether.

Dinan + & Dinan +HE are the warrantied units for the larger amount (i think forum rules still don't let me state a price). They are geared for 91/93 octane with the only difference being one required the heat exchanger for more power since it combats the de-rating issue.

Stage 1 is inclusive of both of those files (Dinan +, Dinan +HE) but also gives you access to all the other octane mappings (although it will require a dealer visit to switch), does not carry the factory matching warranty and is roughly half the price. The stage 1 maps do not require the HE but consistent pulls will be hard as you will be facing de-rate problems.

A simple quick reference guide for the options can be found at bit.ly/S55-FlashGuide. That may help.

That said, just in terms of numbers... You will not get an argument from me about Dinan + being a bit anemic. That was simply what calibration found to be the max power allowed without seeing the car fighting back and de-rating itself. The good news is there is no additional charge from Dinan to "upgrade" to Dinan +HE when the charge cooling is upgraded. The numbers you stated earlier are technically correct if you are looking strictly at peak gains. Keep in mind though that those peak gains occur at 7000 RPM. Perhaps your different but most will be spending most of their time in the mid-range where there are +50-+70 WHP gains. Dinan's main goal in tuning is to provide a linear power delivery and not a peaky one where the upper RPM range just dies on itself which is partly the reason for the limited peak gains as well.
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Regarding the Octane's. What happens if I put 93 octane in a 91 tune or vice versa? a ny damage or issues or just lower power? sometimes one or the other octane is not readily available at certain stations/pumps so on those cases where one would have to fill up with the "wrong" octane wondered what issues might be, if any...thanks
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      11-13-2019, 04:47 PM   #36
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Any flash options coming for the M550i's pre LCI (2019)? Your V2 gave some solid gains on my M550i, but would love a flash with Warranty.
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Regarding the Octane's. What happens if I put 93 octane in a 91 tune or vice versa? a ny damage or issues or just lower power? sometimes one or the other octane is not readily available at certain stations/pumps so on those cases where one would have to fill up with the "wrong" octane wondered what issues might be, if any...thanks
Just loss in power or a slight gain in the case of using 93 on 91. Those 2 octanes and the mappings involved are basically interchangeable without issue. Now putting 91 octane in the car on an E85 file on the other hand...

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Any flash options coming for the M550i's pre LCI (2019)? Your V2 gave some solid gains on my M550i, but would love a flash with Warranty.
Its in the queue along with a lot of other platforms. No ETA at present.
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      11-13-2019, 05:32 PM   #38
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How much?
It's Dinan. So expect 3x the price of other options.
Maybe more $ but that's because they accrue those $'s to cover claims. Only other one that I know of, until just recently is Racechip.

I wasn't going to look at another piggy-back unit and now don't have to with a pending flash from Dinan.
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i apologize if i missed the answers to these questions already -

burbles?
DCT tuning?
exhaust flap open/closed configurable, possibly through smartphone app?
what's the top speed with stage 1?
is there any warranty if we start to see adverse effects such as codes thrown, limp mode, etc?

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Hello any 0-60 times to compare with?
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i apologize if i missed the answers to these questions already -

burbles?
DCT tuning?
exhaust flap open/closed configurable, possibly through smartphone app?
what's the top speed with stage 1?
is there any warranty if we start to see adverse effects such as codes thrown, limp mode, etc?

TIA
burbles? On earlier cars the tune will upgrade the vehicle to the more aggressive stock burble that is on later cars but that's as far as we go.
DCT tuning? No. Not at this time.
exhaust flap open/closed configurable, possibly through smartphone app? No.
what's the top speed with stage 1? Governor is removed. As fast as you can get the car to go in "Mexico."
is there any warranty if we start to see adverse effects such as codes thrown, limp mode, etc? Only if you go with a Dinan + warrantied variant. The Stage 1 warranty is a limited lifetime warranty that essentially covers defects in the programming with no consequential damages (basically the same warranty that is commonplace for most products in the aftermarket).

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Hello any 0-60 times to compare with?
No. Generally don't bother with 0-60 metrics just because they are so biased to a quality launch that can be affected by a slew of other factors (temp, tires, driver skill, etc). Usually just go by dyno metrics and the occasional 1/4 mile's (see a couple posts above).

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Who are the authorized dealers in the Toronto, Canada area?
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I already own a DINANTRONICS Elite kit for the S55 engine, can I switch to the flash?
Yes, you can trade in your existing DINANTRONICS kit and qualify for a warrantied tune (balance of the factory matching 4yr/50 k warranty) upgrade for only $149.95. If you are already out of warranty or simply want more power you can opt to switch to the full stage 1 options (no factory matching warranty) without any associated upgrade fee. Pricing listed is dependent on trade-in of registered, first-hand units. Used, second-hand units do not qualify.


How does it work? Can the unit stay in the car?
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      11-14-2019, 07:34 AM   #44
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I already own a DINANTRONICS Elite kit for the S55 engine, can I switch to the flash?
Yes, you can trade in your existing DINANTRONICS kit and qualify for a warrantied tune (balance of the factory matching 4yr/50 k warranty) upgrade for only $149.95. If you are already out of warranty or simply want more power you can opt to switch to the full stage 1 options (no factory matching warranty) without any associated upgrade fee. Pricing listed is dependent on trade-in of registered, first-hand units. Used, second-hand units do not qualify.


How does it work? Can the unit stay in the car?
It's a trade-in program so if you want the reduced rate (or no charge depending on options) on the flash then the unit would not remain in the car. If you wanted to keep the DINANTRONICS then you would be billed the full flash amount. In order to do the trade-in option you would still need to go through the dealer (they need to flash the car anyway) and they would assist in the process and be the middleman on returning trade-in units back to us.
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