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      12-27-2013, 02:46 PM   #287
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They have to increase the standard features on BMW cars. Every single one of them should come with sirius, heated seats, nappa leather, metallic paint, dimming mirrors, homelink, iPhone, bluetooth, a high resolution display with or without nav, etc. It's absurd to ding people on those, and it's worse to have a fleet of cars like the E90 rolling around with halogens and critical missing options on the CPO market.

They seem to heading the direction of pricing the car close to $65k and including all of that stuff.
I have no problem with those features being options, as long as the pricing is commensurate. Many don't want/need all these features (heated seats in Florida?; Nav for a track car?). Since the outgoing model was ~$60k, I'd be happy in the $63k range without these. Problem I have is how options are packaged in the US sometimes limits choice.
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      12-27-2013, 04:57 PM   #288
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I forgot about those on the concept! That looks significantly better than the final product we're getting...
That "concept" is a Photoshop. Those wheels were taken off of an M6 Gran Coupe.
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Sadly in the dark, but clearly an bare F82M4 in Mineral White:
http://www.f30-forum.de/board1-f30-f...html#post54341







NIIIIIICCCCEEEEE

Do we have any pictures of the M4 or M3 in mineral grey? I'm in-between MG or AW
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NIIIIIICCCCEEEEE

Do we have any pictures of the M4 or M3 in mineral grey? I'm in-between MG or AW
Not the clearest pictures but the first set of MG M4:

http://www.autogespot.com/bmw-m4-f82...013/12/28#img1
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      12-29-2013, 02:23 PM   #291
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Not the clearest pictures but the first set of MG M4:

http://www.autogespot.com/bmw-m4-f82...013/12/28#img1
I'm liking the m4 in darker colors.. I'm excited to see owner pictures of all the colors on both the m3/4!
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Not the clearest pictures but the first set of MG M4:

http://www.autogespot.com/bmw-m4-f82...013/12/28#img1
Damn... looks like a beast, MG i'm sold
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Not the clearest pictures but the first set of MG M4:

http://www.autogespot.com/bmw-m4-f82...013/12/28#img1
awesome, thanks for posting
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      12-29-2013, 05:14 PM   #294
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I forgot about those on the concept! That looks significantly better than the final product we're getting...
That "concept" is a Photoshop. Those wheels were taken off of an M6 Gran Coupe.
Damn, so much for that. Thanks for the heads up.

At any rate, that Photoshop--at least to me--looks better than what we're getting.
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LOL WTF is this logic?

I would think people who own M3's and see them everyday would be in a better position to judge the M3/4 than someone who doesnt own or drive one.

This car doesnt give many of us the same feeling we have when we look at and drive our "older" M3's.
The fact you have current M3 makes you Biased. you own current model which makes you embrace Your car more so you are prone to reject anything new which will make "older" M3s get "old". Don't deny it. It has happened before and will continue happening for many generations to come.

I am not saying at all that E9x Ms are bad. They are great cars. But please don't hate on the new generations but unfortunately it's usually/naturally the current M3 owners that do.
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      01-03-2014, 12:14 PM   #296
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Finally a great combo appear

http://www.autogespot.com/bmw-m4-f82...014/01/03#img8

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The fact you have current M3 makes you Biased. you own current model which makes you embrace Your car more so you are prone to reject anything new which will make "older" M3s get "old". Don't deny it. It has happened before and will continue happening for many generations to come.

I am not saying at all that E9x Ms are bad. They are great cars. But please don't hate on the new generations but unfortunately it's usually/naturally the current M3 owners that do.
I can agree with portions of this statement. People tend to reject the new.....it happens every time a new ///M car (..or any car for that matter) is introduced.
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The fact you have current M3 makes you Biased. you own current model which makes you embrace Your car more so you are prone to reject anything new which will make "older" M3s get "old". Don't deny it. It has happened before and will continue happening for many generations to come.

I am not saying at all that E9x Ms are bad. They are great cars. But please don't hate on the new generations but unfortunately it's usually/naturally the current M3 owners that do.
Do you think there is anything of value in hearing from those with a history of driving/owning M cars?

Should we give more weight to the Volkswagen or Chrysler owners?
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Do you think there is anything of value in hearing from those with a history of driving/owning M cars?

Should we give more weight to the Volkswagen or Chrysler owners?

There is value when there is objectivity. There is no value when their contributions are abject and negative, and most of what they have to offer is conjecture (..as it all tends to be at this point because NONE of us have driven an S55 powered ///M car).


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There is value when there is objectivity. There is no value when their contributions are abject and negative.
There is a balance to be struck. I have seen any criticism of the F8x dismissed completely because the commenter drives an M car already. It goes both ways.

If I am on a 911 board I wouldn't dismiss the opinion of someone who has spent the last twenty years of driving behind the wheel of 911 products.

On the other hand, I would be less interested in that person though if they only had ceaselessly negative things to say about a newer Porsche product.
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There is a balance to be struck. I have seen any criticism of the F8x dismissed completely because the commenter drives an M car already. It goes both ways.

If I am on a 911 board I wouldn't dismiss the opinion of someone who has spent the last twenty years of driving behind the wheel of 911 products.

On the other hand, I would be less interested in that person though if they only had ceaselessly negative things to say about a newer Porsche product.
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I forgot about those on the concept! That looks significantly better than the final product we're getting...
That is not a real concept. It is just a real good photoshop in anticipation of the M4 based on the 4 series concept.
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I forgot about those on the concept! That looks significantly better than the final product we're getting...
That is not a real concept. It is just a real good photoshop in anticipation of the M4 based on the 4 series concept.
Yeah, aajami above pointed that out to me.

Admittedly, it's a pretty good photoshop though. I actually like it better than what we're getting.
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What is it missing? I can't tell. I
My thoughts entirely. Looks too bland to my eye. And whilst I like understated, that's just too understated for me.
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[/b]YUK ....................No................. looks so cheap and it will be lost as an "M" on the road.
Just watched the Video,IT sounds like a tin can what an awful exhaust sound, surely them must change that?.
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