Traded my F83 in for an M550i

[elinstylez]

Originally Posted by PshhhhhMW

Yeah OP basically became all those people who claim their car is an //M but will be driving an M340i, M240i, and etc..

Blame bmw for slapping the M badging on everything to appeal to more ppl trying to own an "m".

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by elinstylez

Blame bmw for slapping the M badging on everything to appeal to more ppl trying to own an "m".

No, I blame people who can't read a little BMW history or, you know, their website.

[jninja]

Originally Posted by Thescout13

No, I blame people who can't read a little BMW history or, you know, their website.

I mainly agree with the sentiments....but...if you actually look at the website, for that matter:

https://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/m-models.html

The X5M and X6M are both highlighted as part of the "M" family...

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by jninja

I mainly agree with the sentiments....but...if you actually look at the website, for that matter:

https://www.bmwusa.com/vehicles/m-models.html

The X5M and X6M are both highlighted as part of the "M" family...

They are thought arent they? M developed engine which it shares with the M5 and M suspension. Marketed and treated like an M and not called "M performance models".

They aren't 550i or 340is that have been rebranded

Same reason why the C43 AMG is not an AMG but the C63 is, same thing with the GLEs etc...

[jninja]

Originally Posted by Thescout13

They are thought arent they? M developed engine which it shares with the M5 and M suspension. Marketed and treated like an M and not called "M performance models".

They aren't 550i or 340is that have been rebranded

Same reason why the C43 AMG is not an AMG but the C63 is, same thing with the GLEs etc...

Okay, I didn't know that. To me they aren't true "M's", but obviously that doesn't matter...but again, I guess to some ppl M240's are M's. Each their own I guess

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by jninja

Okay, I didn't know that. To me they aren't true "M's", but obviously that doesn't matter...but again, I guess to some ppl M240's are M's. Each their own I guess

Oo I'm with you, "not a true M" vs "not an actual M" are two very different things. And I'm with you that whole the X5M and X6M are actual Ms they aren't true Ms

[///M4ster Yoda]

Damn. A lot of ///Ms going on around here

I'll lay it out

Real ///M: M2, M3, M4, M5, M6 etc etc.....

Questionable ///M: X3M, X4M, X5M, X6M etc etc.....

Wannabe (FAKE - FYI. Doesn't matter if it came from the factory fake. Still fake): M240, M340, M550 etc etc...

[clutchdj]

Lol. F85/6 is definitely a real ///M.. more so than the E70 actually. the technical training doc makes it pretty clear.

[///M4ster Yoda]

Originally Posted by clutchdj

Lol. F85/6 is definitely a real ///M.. more so than the E70 actually. the technical training doc makes it pretty clear.

I don't even consider BMWs SUVs to be real BMWs so there is that

[Graves]

Congratulations! This thread is worthless without pics.

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by ///M4ster Yoda

Damn. A lot of ///Ms going on around here

I'll lay it out

Real ///M: M2, M3, M4, M5, M6 etc etc.....

Questionable ///M: X3M, X4M, X5M, X6M etc etc.....

Wannabe (FAKE - FYI. Doesn't matter if it came from the factory fake. Still fake): M240, M340, M550 etc etc...

This. This is it.

[elinstylez]

Originally Posted by Thescout13

No, I blame people who can't read a little BMW history or, you know, their website.

We'll agree to disagree. BMW should've just utilized the "m-performance package" rather than combining the m with the model number. I don't fault anyone who bought a m235, m550, etc calling their car an m because it's literally in the badge!

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by elinstylez

We'll agree to disagree. BMW should've just utilized the "m-performance package" rather than combining the m with the model number. I don't fault anyone who bought a m235, m550, etc calling their car an m because it's literally in the badge!

I agree, that we will have to agree to disagree, because it's clearly not an M.

But as it's their right to like to call a faux-M an M, it's mine to say that they are posers.

[Graves]

Originally Posted by Thescout13

I agree, that we will have to agree to disagree, because it's clearly not an M.

But as it's their right to like to call a faux-M an M, it's mine to say that they are posers.

This ^^^^^

[babaikram]

All M named cars have direct input from M division of the BMW. For example m240i B48 engines have additional intercooler, specifically tuned and suspension adjusted by the BMW M division. So they are variants of M cars.

Would we say OG M2 and 1M are not M cars as they share the same but tuned engines with other cars in their series?


M850i appears in the advert for M Town made by BMW

You could differentiate full M cars and not Full M cars I accept.

Any car that carries an M badge from the factory is an M car. If you have problems with this, contact BMW.

[hlothery]

Wow, guys. It was never my intention to start a war. I admit to being naive. Owned my M4 for almost 3 years. When I first drove the M550, it was because BMW brought it to M Track Days at COTA, displayed it as part of the M family, and used it in the drag race because it launched quicker than the M3-4. When I bought it, it was from the M portion of the dealership, upstairs with the M3,4&5. So, you might see how I was a little confused. Thanks for so vigorously correcting me. I now clearly see the light. I no longer own a “real” M car. Now, I hope we can put that issue to bed? Please reread my most previous post, which is what I meant for this thread to be about. The M550i is a wonderful car which embodies many of the characteristics my M4 had, falls short of it in some areas, and clearly surpasses it in others. I love it, it is my best car yet. Thank you very much for your kind comments. Enjoy your M cars!

[PshhhhhMW]

Originally Posted by babaikram

All M named cars have direct input from M division of the BMW. For example m240i B48 engines have additional intercooler, specifically tuned and suspension adjusted by the BMW M division. So they are variants of M cars.

Would we say OG M2 and 1M are not M cars as they share the same but tuned engines with other cars in their series?


M850i appears in the advert for M Town made by BMW

You could differentiate full M cars and not Full M cars I accept.

Any car that carries an M badge from the factory is an M car. If you have problems with this, contact BMW.

Says the person with the M240i..

[Graves]

Originally Posted by hlothery

Wow, guys. It was never my intention to start a war. I admit to being naive. Owned my M4 for almost 3 years. When I first drove the M550, it was because BMW brought it to M Track Days at COTA, displayed it as part of the M family, and used it in the drag race because it launched quicker than the M3-4. When I bought it, it was from the M portion of the dealership, upstairs with the M3,4&5. So, you might see how I was a little confused. Thanks for so vigorously correcting me. I now clearly see the light. I no longer own a “real” M car. Now, I hope we can put that issue to bed? Please reread my most previous post, which is what I meant for this thread to be about. The M550i is a wonderful car which embodies many of the characteristics my M4 had, falls short of it in some areas, and clearly surpasses it in others. I love it, it is my best car yet. Thank you very much for your kind comments. Enjoy your M cars!

Don't apologize. My only gripe about it all is it makes me feel like something is taken away from the M name just throwing badges on everything, that's all. Nothing wrong with your car or the choice you made.

Still waiting on pics though. This thread needs pics. Merry Christmas!

[elinstylez]

Originally Posted by hlothery

Wow, guys. It was never my intention to start a war. I admit to being naive. Owned my M4 for almost 3 years. When I first drove the M550, it was because BMW brought it to M Track Days at COTA, displayed it as part of the M family, and used it in the drag race because it launched quicker than the M3-4. When I bought it, it was from the M portion of the dealership, upstairs with the M3,4&5. So, you might see how I was a little confused. Thanks for so vigorously correcting me. I now clearly see the light. I no longer own a “real” M car. Now, I hope we can put that issue to bed? Please reread my most previous post, which is what I meant for this thread to be about. The M550i is a wonderful car which embodies many of the characteristics my M4 had, falls short of it in some areas, and clearly surpasses it in others. I love it, it is my best car yet. Thank you very much for your kind comments. Enjoy your M cars!

Ignore the haters and enjoy your m 😊

[babaikram]

Originally Posted by Graves

Don't apologize. My only gripe about it all is it makes me feel like something is taken away from the M name just throwing badges on everything, that's all. Nothing wrong with your car or the choice you made.

Still waiting on pics though. This thread needs pics. Merry Christmas!

Really taking something away from M name?: I could feel your pain and disappointment if you bought your car not because of performance but because it has ' a real M badge'

This is a quote from another forum user:

'The first M car based on a production vehicle was the E12 M535i; the engine was the same engine found in the E23 7 Series and E24 6 Series. M modifications were mostly confined to the suspension, although the front brake rotors were 3mm thicker. The interior had Recaro seats and a Motorsport wheel. The exterior had a front airdam, rear lip spoiler, cross-spoke BBS wheels and Motorsport striping. No bespoke engine or body panels.'

[Graves]

Originally Posted by babaikram

Really taking something away from M name?: I could your pain and disappointment if you bought your car not because of performance but because it has ' areal M badge'

This is a quote from another forum user:

'The first M car based on a production vehicle was the E12 M535i; the engine was the same engine found in the E23 7 Series and E24 6 Series. M modifications were mostly confined to the suspension, although the front brake rotors were 3mm thicker. The interior had Recaro seats and a Motorsport wheel. The exterior had a front airdam, rear lip spoiler, cross-spoke BBS wheels and Motorsport striping. No bespoke engine or body panels.'

Dafuq. I bought it for the heritage and prestige. However, what makes my car special and badass if a M340i comes with almost the same power and cool bells and whistles? It doesn't, just means I paid a bunch of useless money for a car I could've essentially gotten for cheaper.

[babaikram]

Originally Posted by Graves

Dafuq. I bought it for the heritage and prestige. However, what makes my car special and badass if a M340i comes with almost the same power and cool bells and whistles? It doesn't, just means I paid a bunch of useless money for a car I could've essentially gotten for cheaper.

I would surely buy 'a full M' in the future for its coolness, appearance and heritage knowing fully well I would be wasting 50% of my money as I would never track it. I know deep down that M performance cars are more than enough for my street use but it is my dream to own a full M car.

Buying a full M car that is not regularly tracked is an emotional buy rather than pragmatic one. It does not mean you have to invalidate other M variants in order to prove to yourself subconsciously that you have not wasted your money on your real M car

The only entity that can define an M car is BMW. If a car is labelled as an M car by the manufacturer no amount of head clashing is going to change this fact