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      12-18-2013, 05:54 PM   #23
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Yea it's silly. It's not like the paint cost any more. Yea the supply chain costs are higher but some BMW come standard with most individual colors
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The lack of colors offered must be the strategy on BMW's part to make you pony up for individual paint.
Really? No shit...
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      12-18-2013, 06:15 PM   #25
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Those seats look amazing!!!
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The full leather on that one seems to be on the entire lower part of the dash...not just vertical strip just to the right of the shifter as it appears on the visualizer. I hope that is the case as I like the additional leather on more of the dash.
This new way of calling "Full Leather" covers the whole dash (top and bottom), upper area of the door, the door inserts and just a small pad in the center console. The 95% of the center console, and the lower section of the doors (actually, most of the door in the Sedan) is plastic.

IMO, it is better than the "old" Extended Leather (bottom dash and two patches in the center console) but not the real Full Leather as in the M5 (all the interior is covered with leather).
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Do dig the Azurite black. Also, the White interior trim is pretty cool. Not sure with what color combo it goes.....but not an everyday thing. I'd guess that red(ish) interior would go with that Azurite black just fine.
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      12-18-2013, 06:42 PM   #28
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Holy sh!t! Will be ordering that last interior - so close to cinnamon!
My thoughts exactly.
Should be killer on mineral white.
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I don't get these "individual" colors that come from a set of selections on the configurator online.

To me individual is when you are having the car painted one of a kind, not when BMW just takes a set palette of colors and says "yeah we're calling these individual and charging $2k for them even though Tom Dick and Harry might pick the same off the BMW website". A true individual color, sure they will need to track it down and stop production etc., and for that a fee is reasonable. These "individual" colors that you pick right off the website right below the regular colors are just the same as the regular colors, I'm sure they are preloaded at the factory ready to shoot just like Alpine White is.

Seems like an asinine way to price a color, there's nothing individual about them other than BMW breaks them out from the regular colors on the website, adds an "individual" header, and charges like two grand for them.
Not quite true. First, concerning the paint itself, an Individual paint not only contains a larger variety of pigments than a normal paint (visible from up close), it also has more layers. These 2 factors combine to give it a real depth increase, pretty amazing reflections and a real color amplitude according to varying lighting conditions (for instance Azurite Black is a real cameleon depending on whether it is under direct sunlight or under cloudy weather). An Individual paint also has a better outer coating to protect it.

Secondly, concerning the paint facilities, each paint requires specific robots etc. Individual paints represent a small percentage of the overall production and all in all are not as profitable to produce as, say, Sapphire Black or Glacier Silver.

And finally, you actually CAN create your own Individual paint that does not exist in the catalog (I have known a few examples), but at a price that is probably very high.

There is no doubt to me that BMW does make more cash out of an Individual paint than out of a stock paint, but not all of this premium is purely due to exclusivity, as these paints actually are deeper, better quality and cost more to produce

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Amaro brown is looking

Currently thinking about an Interlagos blue over Amaro brown with white stitch interior at the moment.

I do find it curious that a once standard color, cinnamon from the e46 M3's, can now only being selected through the individual program, in this case Amaro brown looks closest. Cinnamon was always my favorite interior color as it wasn't beige, grey, or black and went with more exterior colors. Unlike a red interior, which clashes with the blue exteriors imo.
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I don't get these "individual" colors that come from a set of selections on the configurator online.

To me individual is when you are having the car painted one of a kind, not when BMW just takes a set palette of colors and says "yeah we're calling these individual and charging $2k for them even though Tom Dick and Harry might pick the same off the BMW website". A true individual color, sure they will need to track it down and stop production etc., and for that a fee is reasonable. These "individual" colors that you pick right off the website right below the regular colors are just the same as the regular colors, I'm sure they are preloaded at the factory ready to shoot just like Alpine White is.

Seems like an asinine way to price a color, there's nothing individual about them other than BMW breaks them out from the regular colors on the website, adds an "individual" header, and charges like two grand for them.
i thought it was closer to 5k.
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i am loving the brown interior. but for a sporty car, i think red would be more ideal.
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I gotta say, that really takes the M out of the car!!!
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i am loving the brown interior. but for a sporty car, i think red would be more ideal.
Agree 100%, with both white and blue colors of an exterior
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I don't get these "individual" colors that come from a set of selections on the configurator online.

To me individual is when you are having the car painted one of a kind, not when BMW just takes a set palette of colors and says "yeah we're calling these individual and charging $2k for them even though Tom Dick and Harry might pick the same off the BMW website". A true individual color, sure they will need to track it down and stop production etc., and for that a fee is reasonable. These "individual" colors that you pick right off the website right below the regular colors are just the same as the regular colors, I'm sure they are preloaded at the factory ready to shoot just like Alpine White is.

Seems like an asinine way to price a color, there's nothing individual about them other than BMW breaks them out from the regular colors on the website, adds an "individual" header, and charges like two grand for them.
+1 I think that's what it use to mean times have changed within the last years and I'm pretty sure as others have said its not the best for the true BMW fans we don't buy it just for that symbol
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a little obnoxious for them to be talking individual colors at this point, particularly in light of what I consider to be an incomplete lineup of standard colors.
Why exactly is that obnoxious?
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I don't get these "individual" colors that come from a set of selections on the configurator online.

To me individual is when you are having the car painted one of a kind, not when BMW just takes a set palette of colors and says "yeah we're calling these individual and charging $2k for them even though Tom Dick and Harry might pick the same off the BMW website". A true individual color, sure they will need to track it down and stop production etc., and for that a fee is reasonable. These "individual" colors that you pick right off the website right below the regular colors are just the same as the regular colors, I'm sure they are preloaded at the factory ready to shoot just like Alpine White is.

Seems like an asinine way to price a color, there's nothing individual about them other than BMW breaks them out from the regular colors on the website, adds an "individual" header, and charges like two grand for them.
Not quite true. First, concerning the paint itself, an Individual paint not only contains a larger variety of pigments than a normal paint (visible from up close), it also has more layers. These 2 factors combine to give it a real depth increase, pretty amazing reflections and a real color amplitude according to varying lighting conditions (for instance Azurite Black is a real cameleon depending on whether it is under direct sunlight or under cloudy weather). An Individual paint also has a better outer coating to protect it.

Secondly, concerning the paint facilities, each paint requires specific robots etc. Individual paints represent a small percentage of the overall production and all in all are not as profitable to produce as, say, Sapphire Black or Glacier Silver.

And finally, you actually CAN create your own Individual paint that does not exist in the catalog (I have known a few examples), but at a price that is probably very high.

There is no doubt to me that BMW does make more cash out of an Individual paint than out of a stock paint, but not all of this premium is purely due to exclusivity, as these paints actually are deeper, better quality and cost more to produce
One thing that gets me, though, is that mineral white, an individual color to the m3/4, is a base color for the 1er and 3er.

However, the m3/4 gets sahkir orange as a base color, while the rest of the line-up only gets it as an individual color.

If you're right, the formula and painting process of these colors must be different on the m3/4 in comparison to all other BMW cars!
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i thought it was closer to 5k.
$5,000 gets you any Individual color you want, if you pay that much you can get an F80 in Imola, Dakar, Laguna Seca, etc., but for each model BMW has a few Individual colors that show up on their website that are cheaper, around $2,000.
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azurite black on amaro brown with brushed trim for me please, I agree though, it bs that these are all individual colors, what does it cost?
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