VFF-103 or BBS- CI-R on Sahkir Orange??

Cameronc08 · 05-31-2015, 12:06 PM

Looking to get a new set of rims soon, and I'm not looking to spend an arm and a leg. Right now my top two choices are the Vorsteiners and the BBS. Both seem good bang for your buck. Looking for 19's (I guess 20's with the BBS since 19's aren't currently available) on Sahkir Orange, what do you guys think? I've seen plenty of the VFF on Sahkir Orange thanks to PSI but not the BBS, anyone have any pics or maybe someone good with photoshop could help out? Which one has more concavity, hard to tell from pics as I haven't seen either in person. If I went with the Vorsteiner I would definately get the gunmetal that the PSI had on their car. Does BBS offer a similar finish? Thanks guys.

gthal · 05-31-2015, 12:27 PM

VFF-103 from a weight perspective if nothing else. They are way lighter than the BBS. The Vorsteiners are like 22-24lbs with great concavity and the BBS are 28'ish, if I recall, and not a lot of concavity.

JNoSol · 05-31-2015, 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by gthal

VFF-103 from a weight perspective if nothing else. They are way lighter than the BBS. The Vorsteiners are like 22-24lbs with great concavity and the BBS are 28'ish, if I recall, and not a lot of concavity.

+1

remmib · 05-31-2015, 01:33 PM

In another thread about the CI-R, they're listed between 25 and 27 lbs.

gthal · 05-31-2015, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by remmib

In another thread about the CI-R, they're listed between 25 and 27 lbs.

Still heavier than the Vorsteiners

But closer than I had recalled.

remmib · 05-31-2015, 01:42 PM

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Still heavier than the Vorsteiners

But closer than I had recalled.

Yes, but the Vorsteiners are 19", not 20" as the CI-R.

gthal · 05-31-2015, 01:45 PM

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Yes, but the Vorsteiners are 19", not 20" as the CI-R.

Hmmm... I'm positive the weight I was given by the vendor for 19s was around the same. I decided against the CI-R early on because of weight but I can't find the PM now. Oh well, the weight difference won't matter to most people

AW BMW · 05-31-2015, 02:23 PM

I would go vff103s, they are really concave and are relatively light for the size and not being forged. But I'm being biased since I have them on my car. The BBS are also nice but for me the face was a little to flat IMO for my liking.

JTO24 · 05-31-2015, 02:50 PM

I saw the CI-R's in person at ACM and they look better in person but I wasn't blown away. Between the two choices I'd go vff103s

PYSpeed.com · 05-31-2015, 10:46 PM

Sahkir Orange with Matte Gunmetal Wheels are Money!

Cameronc08 · 06-01-2015, 01:02 PM

Thanks for all the comments guys! Definately going to pass on the CI-R's but I'm open to suggestions in my cheapass price range

tom @ eas · 06-01-2015, 01:09 PM

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Originally Posted by gthal

VFF-103 from a weight perspective if nothing else. They are way lighter than the BBS. The Vorsteiners are like 22-24lbs with great concavity and the BBS are 28'ish, if I recall, and not a lot of concavity.

Very good point, especially when OEM wheels already come in at a lightweight ~19lbs on the 18" size.

AutoTalent · 06-01-2015, 01:29 PM

Can't go wrong either way!

supremepower · 06-01-2015, 06:31 PM

The CI-R's are a great wheel, but they weigh roughly 27lbs up front and 28lbs in the rear!

The VFF103s are 22lbs front and rear.

Both are excellent choices. Here are a couple shots

VFF 103

BBS CI-R

Tema393 · 06-04-2015, 03:13 PM

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Originally Posted by AutoTalent

Can't go wrong either way!

hi, what size tires on a white M4?

Carlos@TAG · 06-04-2015, 03:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Cameronc08

Looking to get a new set of rims soon, and I'm not looking to spend an arm and a leg. Right now my top two choices are the Vorsteiners and the BBS. Both seem good bang for your buck. Looking for 19's (I guess 20's with the BBS since 19's aren't currently available) on Sahkir Orange, what do you guys think? I've seen plenty of the VFF on Sahkir Orange thanks to PSI but not the BBS, anyone have any pics or maybe someone good with photoshop could help out? Which one has more concavity, hard to tell from pics as I haven't seen either in person. If I went with the Vorsteiner I would definately get the gunmetal that the PSI had on their car. Does BBS offer a similar finish? Thanks guys.

You can also do the HRE Flow Forms. They are available in the 19"s. Here are some pictures of a M4 we just did with them on.

Carlos@TAG · 06-04-2015, 04:20 PM

Here is a M4 we just did this week on the 19" Vorsteiner VFF-103's (Mystic Black Finish)

Padfan9 · 06-06-2015, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Cameronc08

Looking to get a new set of rims soon, and I'm not looking to spend an arm and a leg. Right now my top two choices are the Vorsteiners and the BBS. Both seem good bang for your buck. Looking for 19's (I guess 20's with the BBS since 19's aren't currently available) on Sahkir Orange, what do you guys think? I've seen plenty of the VFF on Sahkir Orange thanks to PSI but not the BBS, anyone have any pics or maybe someone good with photoshop could help out? Which one has more concavity, hard to tell from pics as I haven't seen either in person. If I went with the Vorsteiner I would definately get the gunmetal that the PSI had on their car. Does BBS offer a similar finish? Thanks guys.

BBS CIR for sure!!

JTO24 · 06-06-2015, 02:27 PM

Out of all the above choices, the vorateiner are the lightest with the best width/offset. If only the HRE flow form wheels came in suitable offsets for 9.5" and 10.5" widths.

sdshah · 06-06-2015, 02:38 PM

Anthracite brown or satin Bronze on SO!

AW BMW · 06-06-2015, 08:19 PM

Here are my vorsteiners.

-JLT- · 06-06-2015, 08:36 PM

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Thanks for all the comments guys! Definately going to pass on the CI-R's but I'm open to suggestions in my cheapass price range

best value for the buck, imho, are Apex wheels. 19" wheels weighing 21-22lbs around $1500. strong and track proven with nice concavity and offsets. here's some pics:

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