Doc Race S55 turbo kit

IcebergM4 · 11-22-2019, 04:06 PM

Are there any solid reviews on this kit yet? Does anyone have it on their car in the wild and willing to share their thoughts? I tried searching already and found nothing.

I'm seriously on the fence between this kit and the KRATOS turbos and I need to make a decision soon.

jpy1980 · 11-22-2019, 05:08 PM

just go with Kratos? Why Chance it with a turbo that isn’t as well reviewed and praised?

aBMWfan · 11-22-2019, 05:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpy1980

just go with Kratos? Why Chance it with a turbo that isn’t as well reviewed and praised?

Price

blockdoc · 11-22-2019, 05:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by aBMWfan

Price

Vs the cost to remove and replace if they don't work??

aBMWfan · 11-22-2019, 05:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blockdoc

Vs the cost to remove and replace if they don't work??

That’s expensive too.

I went with pure 2+ but Kratos is the next step after that

IcebergM4 · 11-23-2019, 10:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jpy1980

just go with Kratos? Why Chance it with a turbo that isn’t as well reviewed and praised?

I agree and I decided on Kratos

Quote:

Originally Posted by aBMWfan

Price

Actually the KRATOS and Doc Race kits are the same price (with the turbo option I wanted) if I'm not mistaken.

What steered me away from the Doc Race kits was the deletion of the wastegate actuators. Open dumps would've sounded really nice, but I wanted ease of operation and installation. The KRATOS turbos have also been proven and virtually bulletproof so far.

mike@x-ph.com · 11-23-2019, 11:43 AM

We offer Pure and Kratos, both are quality kits

M 4 FUN · 11-23-2019, 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceberg4

I agree and I decided on Kratos

Actually the KRATOS and Doc Race kits are the same price (with the turbo option I wanted) if I'm not mistaken.

What steered me away from the Doc Race kits was the deletion of the wastegate actuators. Open dumps would've sounded really nice, but I wanted ease of operation and installation. The KRATOS turbos have also been proven and virtually bulletproof so far.

Everything can happen. My friend weren't that lucky with the kratos turbos. They had to be rebuilt when he got them..

aBMWfan · 11-23-2019, 04:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M 4 FUN

Everything can happen. My friend weren't that lucky with the kratos turbos. They had to be rebuilt when he got them..

That’s a first! Can your friend explain what happened?

Commanderwiggin · 11-23-2019, 04:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M 4 FUN

Everything can happen. My friend weren't that lucky with the kratos turbos. They had to be rebuilt when he got them..

Can you share the details of the failure?

bracer · 11-23-2019, 04:21 PM

According to Kratos there hasn't been any documented failures of these to date. At least as of the week before last.

IcebergM4 · 11-23-2019, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by M 4 FUN

Everything can happen. My friend weren't that lucky with the kratos turbos. They had to be rebuilt when he got them..

This is the FIRST I've ever heard of a failure with Kratos turbos, are you sure your friend didn't have a different brand?

IcebergM4 · 11-23-2019, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

We offer Pure and Kratos, both are quality kits

I'll be purchasing the kit through you Mike, no question

mike@x-ph.com · 11-24-2019, 11:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Iceberg4

I'll be purchasing the kit through you Mike, no question

Justin.AutoTalent · 11-24-2019, 08:08 PM

I have a customer who has his car at Doc Race, the car should be wrapped up pretty soon. I would wait to see the results before deciding on anything

IcebergM4 · 11-25-2019, 10:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Justin.AutoTalent

I have a customer who has his car at Doc Race, the car should be wrapped up pretty soon. I would wait to see the results before deciding on anything

Sounds like a plan Justin, I'll hold off a little bit longer.

bracer · 11-25-2019, 01:29 PM

You do realize these are two way different options right? One fits like factory and the other is a welded tubular manifold, external wastegates, etc..., that was made by hand, so there will be variation from unit to unit. This is comparing a boutique custom shop vs something in production.

Doc Race does give you the option for a vast number of different turbo sizes, which is nice, but not always super necessary unless you are doing something outside the norm.

I will also mention I sent an email for some information on the Doc Race kit to them months ago and never received a reply which would rule them out for me right off. This isn't that uncommon for small one man band sort of shops though. If their customer service is like that for someone looking to purchase imagine what it would be like if there was an issue. Just my .02 worth.

blockdoc · 11-25-2019, 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackey

You do realize these are two way different options right? One fits like factory and the other is a welded tubular manifold, external wastegates, etc..., that was made by hand, so there will be variation from unit to unit. This is comparing a boutique custom shop vs something in production.

Doc Race does give you the option for a vast number of different turbo sizes, which is nice, but not always super necessary unless you are doing something outside the norm.

I will also mention I sent an email for some information on the Doc Race kit to them months ago and never received a reply which would rule them out for me right off. This isn't that uncommon for small one man band sort of shops though. If their customer service is like that for someone looking to purchase imagine what it would be like if there was an issue. Just my .02 worth.

I agree. Unless you are looking for some sort of one off built system, why not go with one of the established plug and play systems???

IcebergM4 · 11-25-2019, 06:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackey

You do realize these are two way different options right? One fits like factory and the other is a welded tubular manifold, external wastegates, etc..., that was made by hand, so there will be variation from unit to unit. This is comparing a boutique custom shop vs something in production.

Doc Race does give you the option for a vast number of different turbo sizes, which is nice, but not always super necessary unless you are doing something outside the norm.

I will also mention I sent an email for some information on the Doc Race kit to them months ago and never received a reply which would rule them out for me right off. This isn't that uncommon for small one man band sort of shops though. If their customer service is like that for someone looking to purchase imagine what it would be like if there was an issue. Just my .02 worth.

This is very true and after lots of research, I would prefer something more plug and play. Kratos reached out to me right away and it looks like I'll be going that route

tom @ eas · 11-25-2019, 06:08 PM

Kratos turbos just showed up today, looking forward to seeing how these perform on the dyno.

blockdoc · 11-25-2019, 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Kratos turbos just showed up today, looking forward to seeing how these perform on the dyno.

Car Porn

BlownOne · 11-26-2019, 08:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Kratos turbos just showed up today, looking forward to seeing how these perform on the dyno.

Interested to see how they perform on your dyno as well! What setup they going on?

11-22-2019, 04:06 PM	#1
IcebergM4 Major 361 Rep 1,060 Posts Drives: '23 M4C Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: SoFlo iTrader: (1)	Doc Race S55 turbo kit Are there any solid reviews on this kit yet? Does anyone have it on their car in the wild and willing to share their thoughts? I tried searching already and found nothing. I'm seriously on the fence between this kit and the KRATOS turbos and I need to make a decision soon.
	Appreciate 0 Tweet Quote

11-22-2019, 05:08 PM	#2
jpy1980 Lieutenant Colonel 1582 Rep 1,976 Posts Drives: 2015 BMW M3 -Smurfy Blue Vinyl Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: Los Angeles iTrader: (3)	just go with Kratos? Why Chance it with a turbo that isn’t as well reviewed and praised?
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-23-2019, 11:43 AM	#7
mike@x-ph.com BimmerPost Supporting Vendor 24180 Rep 190,777 Posts Drives: 07-335/12-328/18-M4/21-M4CP Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Las Vegas iTrader: (23)	We offer Pure and Kratos, both are quality kits __________________ Check out our current sale by clicking on this link! https://x-ph.com/sale/ Phone number 702-494-9435
	Appreciate 0 Quote

11-23-2019, 04:21 PM	#11
bracer Mr Bill 296 Rep 545 Posts Drives: GLC63 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Aliso Viejo iTrader: (1)	According to Kratos there hasn't been any documented failures of these to date. At least as of the week before last. __________________ 2018 GLC63 2016 Miata 2020 X3M (sold) Turbo Miata Racecar (sold) 1995, 2009, 2015 M3 (sold)
	Appreciate 2 papasmurf_m3454.50 Quote

11-24-2019, 08:08 PM	#15
Justin.AutoTalent Banned 3137 Rep 2,953 Posts Drives: F80 M3 Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: LA iTrader: (1)	I have a customer who has his car at Doc Race, the car should be wrapped up pretty soon. I would wait to see the results before deciding on anything
	Appreciate 1 Commanderwiggin2050.00 Quote

11-25-2019, 01:29 PM	#17
bracer Mr Bill 296 Rep 545 Posts Drives: GLC63 Join Date: Sep 2013 Location: Aliso Viejo iTrader: (1)	You do realize these are two way different options right? One fits like factory and the other is a welded tubular manifold, external wastegates, etc..., that was made by hand, so there will be variation from unit to unit. This is comparing a boutique custom shop vs something in production. Doc Race does give you the option for a vast number of different turbo sizes, which is nice, but not always super necessary unless you are doing something outside the norm. I will also mention I sent an email for some information on the Doc Race kit to them months ago and never received a reply which would rule them out for me right off. This isn't that uncommon for small one man band sort of shops though. If their customer service is like that for someone looking to purchase imagine what it would be like if there was an issue. Just my .02 worth. __________________ 2018 GLC63 2016 Miata 2020 X3M (sold) Turbo Miata Racecar (sold) 1995, 2009, 2015 M3 (sold) Last edited by bracer; 11-25-2019 at 01:40 PM..
	Appreciate 3 808elise378.00 em3atl33.50 SYT_Shadow11479.50 Quote

11-25-2019, 06:08 PM	#20
tom @ eas BimmerPost Supporting Vendor 8124 Rep 18,814 Posts Drives: BMW Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Anaheim, CA iTrader: (19) Garage List 2018 BMW i3s [0.00] 2010 BMW M3 [6.50] 2015 BMW M4 [5.25]	Kratos turbos just showed up today, looking forward to seeing how these perform on the dyno. __________________ Tom G. \| european auto source (eas) email: tom@europeanautosource.com · web: https://europeanautosource.com· tel 866.669.0705 · ca: 714.369.8524 x22 GET DAILY UPDATES ON OUR BLOG · FACEBOOK · YOUTUBE · FLICKR · INSTAGRAM
	Appreciate 0 Quote