CS Deals, Steals, and Three-yulls on Wheels!

[Parabolica]

Originally Posted by sdshah

Markup isn't 7%. 7% is invoice pricing that they use to create programs around and convince buyers they are getting a good deal. These cars are being made for less and that is being given back to dealership as incentives/Credits.

Sorry yes, dealer markup based on what their cost is. The dealer is still paying 7% less MSRP so unless BMW USA is giving the dealers back 13K, the dealers are losing money. This is certainly not happening in Canada, not sure about other parts of the world.

[Clark_Kent]

Originally Posted by Parabolica

Sorry yes, dealer markup based on what their cost is. The dealer is still paying 7% less MSRP so unless BMW USA is giving the dealers back 13K, the dealers are losing money. This is certainly not happening in Canada, not sure about other parts of the world.

You don't believe the dealership is buying these cars from BMW for 7% off MSRP do you?

[visi107]

Originally Posted by Clark_Kent

You don't believe the dealership is buying these cars from BMW for 7% off MSRP do you?

The whole process has become so complicated now with all the incentives, flagship money, bonuses, holdback etc that who knows how much the dealership is actually paying. I wouldn't be surprised if the dealership couldn't tell you their actual true cost (half joking here of course)

[shay2nak]

Damn, man. These are great deals. Too bad no 6MT and it would be another 3k cheaper. lol I would jump on one of these. WTF BMW thanks for no MT.

[sdshah]

Originally Posted by shay2nak

Damn, man. These are great deals. Too bad no 6MT and it would be another 3k cheaper. lol I would jump on one of these. WTF BMW thanks for no MT.

Going to be fun when these all come off lease and are worth 25k below there residual.

[FeckinSpaceman]

Originally Posted by sdshah

Going to be fun when these all come off lease and are worth 25k below there residual.

It's funny you say that, I was wondering how these will hold value in comparison?

I was thinking it is a somewhat limited car, and usually that seems to keep values stronger, no?

Aren't the Jahre 30 values still up? BMW 1M?

[E46M3forRay]

Lease experts - is this a good deal or run away?

MSRP: $102,395
Discount: $12,405 (12.11% off)
BMW rebates: $4500
MF: .00217

24 months, $9995 down plus drive offs, 10K miles $599.8 plus taxes

The additional drive off amount is $3,357.21 plus first month. That’s $14k total down payment.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by E46M3forRay

Lease experts - is this a good deal or run away?

MSRP: $102,395
Discount: $12,405 (12.11% off)
BMW rebates: $4500
MF: .00217

24 months, $9995 down plus drive offs, 10K miles $599.8 plus taxes

The additional drive off amount is $3,357.21 plus first month. That’s $14k total down payment.

No. At least 15% off to be even close to a good deal. And what's with the down payment? Never put anything down on a lease. Never never never.

[electrifi8]

Originally Posted by E46M3forRay

Lease experts - is this a good deal or run away?

MSRP: $102,395
Discount: $12,405 (12.11% off)
BMW rebates: $4500
MF: .00217

24 months, $9995 down plus drive offs, 10K miles $599.8 plus taxes

The additional drive off amount is $3,357.21 plus first month. That’s $14k total down payment.

This is not a good deal. MF is inflated. The down payment is outsized and the discount reflects invoice pricing. Why not msds?

[Andrae26]

Originally Posted by jmg

No. At least 15% off to be even close to a good deal. And what's with the down payment? Never put anything down on a lease. Never never never.

Agreed. Thankfully I didn't put anything down on mines. You drive it and next thing you know someone hits you and it's totaled. All that money is lost.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by Andrae26

Agreed. Thankfully I didn't put anything down on mines. You drive it and next thing you know someone hits you and it's totaled. All that money is lost.

Prime example! This guy would have been out $9k with nothing to show for it. How long did you have the car?! Did you even make a first payment yet?!

[Andrae26]

Originally Posted by jmg

Prime example! This guy would have been out $9k with nothing to show for it. How long did you have the car?! Did you even make a first payment yet?!

Not even first payment bro. Only had the car for 2weeks before that stupid bitch decided to make a dumb decision and totaled my car.

[BigSky702]

Guys, I have a dealer near me with a lime rock gray 2018 M3 CS
MSRP 114,000.

How do I negotiate a decent deal, what % should I expect to get taken off the MSRP? What incentives should I look for?

Would like to stay in the mid to hi 800s.

[gatorfast]

Originally Posted by BigSky702

Guys, I have a dealer near me with a lime rock gray 2018 M3 CS
MSRP 114,000.

How do I negotiate a decent deal, what % should I expect to get taken off the MSRP? What incentives should I look for?

Would like to stay in the mid to hi 800s.

It would be great if there was a long thread where people detailed out the deals they received so you could compare. Oh wait...

[Clark_Kent]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

It would be great if there was a long thread where people detailed out the deals they received so you could compare. Oh wait...

It never fails my friend. There are pages and pages of intel and the same lameduck questions pop up every third day. The best part about deals on the CS is there is only one answer on what a solid deal looks like yet confusion still sets in. Can't wait until there are no more new vehicles left in inventory.

[visi107]

Originally Posted by jmg

Prime example! This guy would have been out $9k with nothing to show for it. How long did you have the car?! Did you even make a first payment yet?!

While I agree that I would not put money down on a lease in part for this reason . . . In this specific example it's not necessarily true that he would be "out 9k" . . It all depends on what the car is valued.
If the MSRP of the car is 102k (typical CS) and the final selling price you paid for it was let's say 82k (after rebates) and you put down another 9k then the actual capitalized cost would be 73k . . If the car is totaled in 1-2 months and the insurance values it at 73 then yeah you are out all 9k but if the insurance values it let's say at 88k (not unreasonable for a car with MSRP of 102K) then the surplus above what BMWFS is owned goes to you and technically you could be making money once all the fees are covered.

[robopp]

Originally Posted by visi107

While I agree that I would not put money down on a lease in part for this reason . . . In this specific example it's not necessarily true that he would be "out 9k" . . It all depends on what the car is valued.
If the MSRP of the car is 102k (typical CS) and the final selling price you paid for it was let's say 82k (after rebates) and you put down another 9k then the actual capitalized cost would be 73k . . If the car is totaled in 1-2 months and the insurance values it at 73 then yeah you are out all 9k but if the insurance values it let's say at 88k (not unreasonable for a car with MSRP of 102K) then the surplus above what BMWFS is owned goes to you and technically you could be making money once all the fees are covered.

One guy just totaled his CS, so curious to see what the insurance company set his car's valuation.

[BigSky702]

Originally Posted by gatorfast

It would be great if there was a long thread where people detailed out the deals they received so you could compare. Oh wait...

Don’t have to be an ass... just give me a 4 bullet synopsis so I don’t have to wade through pages .... huh?? Maybe ?? But I guess it’s easier to just be an ass.. and waste time typing sarcastic BS.. could have saved the time and ignored me.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by visi107

While I agree that I would not put money down on a lease in part for this reason . . . In this specific example it's not necessarily true that he would be "out 9k" . . It all depends on what the car is valued.
If the MSRP of the car is 102k (typical CS) and the final selling price you paid for it was let's say 82k (after rebates) and you put down another 9k then the actual capitalized cost would be 73k . . If the car is totaled in 1-2 months and the insurance values it at 73 then yeah you are out all 9k but if the insurance values it let's say at 88k (not unreasonable for a car with MSRP of 102K) then the surplus above what BMWFS is owned goes to you and technically you could be making money once all the fees are covered.

It will be interesting to see what happens with Andre's 2 week old totaled M3CS

[double_R]

I posted this some time last month but here goes again. If you're seeking an AW M3CS here's a deal that can be had in Kentucky

MSRP: 101,345
Sell price before incentives: 85,200
Rebates: 5500 (lease credit, loyalty and full OL code accepted)
MF: .00177
Doc fee: 239

With MSDs, this should yield monthly payment around the mid 700s before taxes and fees. Please pm me for dealer info

[OpenRoadBmw]

Originally Posted by Andrae26

Agreed. Thankfully I didn't put anything down on mines. You drive it and next thing you know someone hits you and it's totaled. All that money is lost.

Andrae , sorry to hear brother, if theres anything you need on my end bmw wise just txt me , we will get you in a another one if you want ! just let me know, im here for you either way.. But glad your ok cars are replaceable.

Brandon

[f80er]

Originally Posted by BigSky702

Don’t have to be an ass... just give me a 4 bullet synopsis so I don’t have to wade through pages .... huh?? Maybe ?? But I guess it’s easier to just be an ass.. and waste time typing sarcastic BS.. could have saved the time and ignored me.

Same way you could have not wasted anyone else's time and just read through the last couple pages. Manifest destiny playboy.