M4 vs M4 Comp in 2019

[UKM4Comp]

Hi all, apologies if this has been answered before as I can’t find it using the search.....

In regards to a 2018 or 2019 M4. The Comp Pack came out years ago and undeniably improved the car. But I assume all non Comp cars since this was introduced, also benefited from the same improvements? Seems it would be more expensive to keep the non Comp deliberately worse and still fitting inferior, separate parts rather than just using the new ones across the board.

Thus if you are looking at a 2019 car, the Comp simply adds The wheels/exhaust/seats/tune/black bits. It is fundamentally same ARBs/Springs/Dampers etc and better to drive than a ‘14 or ‘15.

Or am I wrong?

Thanks in advance

[secretanchitman]

Increased HP, new springs/dampers/anti-roll bars, exhaust, seats, seat belts, black trim, wheels, and tweaked suspension/differential/driving modes are what you get with the competition package.

Most people end up getting ZCP but I'm one of the few who optioned the car specifically without it. I honestly couldn't tell much difference between the base and ZCP M4, even after driving them back to back.

In my experience, BMW has done a good job of sorting out the base M4 suspension and driveability post LCI but you can't go wrong either way. I put the money towards full leather.

[PKL]

If you don't get ZCP you will regret it.

[UKM4Comp]

Thanks both,

I’ve only ever driven the Comp equipped cars, just prefer the wheels on the non Comp and slightly lower key look. Hence wondered if fundamentally its an improved car just without the extras. But will probably end up with a Comp anyway, just to be sure!

[SD ///M4]

Originally Posted by 340iMSport

Thanks both,

I’ve only ever driven the Comp equipped cars, just prefer the wheels on the non Comp and slightly lower key look. Hence wondered if fundamentally its an improved car just without the extras. But will probably end up with a Comp anyway, just to be sure!

I have a 2016 M4, ordered in February 2016. The ZCP was introduced the same month after I placed my order and I had a short window to change my order before it went into production but I didn't like the wheels, I wasn't sure how comfortable the seats would be without the lumbar support, and I wasn't crazy about the gimmicky seat belts.

My wife has a 2018 M3 ZCP and the car is fundamentally an improved car. I regret that I didn't change my order.

The Style 437M wheels, stock on the "base" edition are also available a a no-cost option on the ZCP starting in 2018, but only in black, not silver. My wife opted for this wheel instead of the 666 wheels, partially because they are way easier to clean and they're lighter. This was not an option in 2016 and 2017.

[N1rve]

I test drove the ZCP and Non-ZCP. Aside from like a little bit more HP (because the M4 lacks horsepower already :rollseyes: ) I didn't think the 5000 dollar price tag or so was worth it for this option. The seats also lack adjustable lumbar support. I didn't want a car without lumbar support. I also value the exec package more than ZCP as I think it's more useful.

Some people mentioned ZCP was slower and weighed more:

Example here:

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1365204

Wheels weighed more too

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...M#post21346383

Though, I do like the blacked out badges and also how there is no chrome on the car (Front Grille and Fender Trim), and also the burbles that go blub blub blub.

[UKM4Comp]

Thank you all. Went for a Comp in the end as the deal was too goos to ignore.

[secretanchitman]

Originally Posted by UKM4Comp

Thank you all. Went for a Comp in the end as the deal was too goos to ignore.

Congrats!!

[secretanchitman]

Originally Posted by UKM4Comp

Thank you all. Went for a Comp in the end as the deal was too goos to ignore.

Congrats!!

[Liam44]

Originally Posted by UKM4Comp

Hi all, apologies if this has been answered before as I can’t find it using the search.....
only up game
In regards to a 2018 or 2019 M4. The Comp Pack came out years ago and undeniably improved the car. But I assume all non Comp cars since this was introduced, also benefited from the same improvements? Seems it would be more expensive to keep the non Comp deliberately worse and still fitting inferior, separate parts rather than just using the new ones across the board.
Jumping Shell
Thus if you are looking at a 2019 car, the Comp simply adds The wheels/exhaust/seats/tune/black bits. It is fundamentally same ARBs/Springs/Dampers etc and better to drive than a ‘14 or ‘15.
monkey mart
Or am I wrong?
dreadhead parkour
Thanks in advance

I think you're onto something here. It would make sense for BMW to incorporate improvements from the Comp Pack into the non-Comp versions over time. It's likely that by 2018-2019, many of those enhancements had already found their way into the standard M4, making it a better-driving car compared to the earlier models. Always a good idea to double-check with a BMW expert or dealership for specifics. Happy car hunting!

[krunker]

Originally Posted by UKM4Comp

Hi all, apologies if this has been answered before as I can’t find it using the search.....core ball

In regards to a 2018 or 2019 M4. The Comp Pack came out years ago and undeniably improved the car. But I assume all non Comp cars since this was introduced, also benefited from the same improvements? Seems it would be more expensive to keep the non Comp deliberately worse and still fitting inferior, separate parts rather than just using the new ones across the board.

Thus if you are looking at a 2019 car, the Comp simply adds The wheels/exhaust/seats/tune/black bits. It is fundamentally same ARBs/Springs/Dampers etc and better to drive than a ‘14 or ‘15.

Or am I wrong?

Thanks in advance

I tested the ZCP and the non-ZCP. Except for a small increase in horsepower (since the M4 doesn’t have that much horsepower :rollseyes) I don’t think the 5000 dollars or so it costs for this option is worth it. The seats don’t have adjustable Lumbar support either. I didn’t want a car without Lumbar support. Also, I prefer the exec package over the ZCP because I think it’s more practical.

[M3SQRD]

Originally Posted by Liam44

I think you're onto something here. It would make sense for BMW to incorporate improvements from the Comp Pack into the non-Comp versions over time. It's likely that by 2018-2019, many of those enhancements had already found their way into the standard M4, making it a better-driving car compared to the earlier models. Always a good idea to double-check with a BMW expert or dealership for specifics. Happy car hunting!

Competition upgrades have not made their way to non-Comp models. You pay $5k for the features included in the Comp package so BMW will not provide them on the non-Comp. BMW in parallel has updated the dampers with revised rebound and compression damping (no change to sway bars), and shifted the peak torque to be above 2k rpm to improve driveability, however, I prefer the lower torque peak in my ‘16 M4. I’ve never had traction or driveability issues with my ‘16. If you want the changes included in the Comp package then you need to buy a Comp car. If you want a car that feels fundamentally different then buy a CS. CS is vastly superior to a Comp or base model.

[jaylazy2020]

I read a review in Evo that stated all the comp improvements made it to to the non comp as well which makes sense

I drove both and couldn’t tell the difference as both were so bad in Irish rain! But great fun!

The only real difference I’ve noticed is when I changed 20 666 wheels to 19/20 763 staggered.

Extra sidewall on fronts certainly helps around town etc.

[alex2364]

Originally Posted by M3SQRD

Competition upgrades have not made their way to non-Comp models. You pay $5k for the features included in the Comp package so BMW will not provide them on the non-Comp. BMW in parallel has updated the dampers with revised rebound and compression damping (no change to sway bars), and shifted the peak torque to be above 2k rpm to improve driveability, however, I prefer the lower torque peak in my ‘16 M4. I’ve never had traction or driveability issues with my ‘16. If you want the changes included in the Comp package then you need to buy a Comp car. If you want a car that feels fundamentally different then buy a CS. CS is vastly superior to a Comp or base model.

This is incorrect. Sway bars are different on Competition cars as well. https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...16&postcount=7

Originally Posted by jaylazy2020

I read a review in Evo that stated all the comp improvements made it to to the non comp as well which makes sense

I drove both and couldn’t tell the difference as both were so bad in Irish rain! But great fun!

The only real difference I’ve noticed is when I changed 20 666 wheels to 19/20 763 staggered.

Extra sidewall on fronts certainly helps around town etc.

Reading > you

When did "the standard car received a raft of (unannounced) chassis tweaks" become all Comp improvements made it to the non-Comp as well?

[M3SQRD]

Originally Posted by alex2364

This is incorrect. Sway bars are different on Competition cars as well. https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...16&postcount=7

Not sure where I’m incorrect? The question I’m answering is what Comp parts are used on non-Comp/base models, not what is different between Comp and base models. Comp sway bars, which are different from non-Comp/base models, have not been used on non-Comp/base models. Base dampers (EDC and fixed) have been reworked throughout production but the same sway bars that have been used since production started are still used on the base model; thus, no change to sway bars.

[jaylazy2020]

Originally Posted by alex2364

Reading > you

When did "the standard car received a raft of (unannounced) chassis tweaks" become all Comp improvements made it to the non-Comp as well?

Not sure I just remembered sending a photo of the Evo review to a friend who had a 2016 non comp so I just posted that photo

[alex2364]

Originally Posted by M3SQRD

Not sure where I’m incorrect? The question I’m answering is what Comp parts are used on non-Comp/base models, not what is different between Comp and base models. Comp sway bars, which are different from non-Comp/base models, have not been used on non-Comp/base models. Base dampers (EDC and fixed) have been reworked throughout production but the same sway bars that have been used since production started are still used on the base model; thus, no change to sway bars.

You’re right. I must have miss read what you wrote.

[WhiteFox]

Best model ever made was 2017-early2018 comp as it came fully spec’d before BMW had to put in OPF and change the driveshaft from carbon to steel making it more heavy. Also they removed some other items that no one would notice (dimming passenger mirror, headlight wash, carbon drive shaft, and m performance retrofit exhaust option)

Hence if in the market 2017 LCI model was the best optioned car they made for 10 months before the switch if people want the best setup they had on offer with LCI.

They also brought in the comp pack just before the LCI refresh in late 17 and again these cars had all the options bar the new headlights and taillights both which can be retrofitted as well as sliver interior trim accents and seat badges. (This came with the led headlight wash)

[NickyC]

Originally Posted by WhiteFox

Best model ever made was 2017-early2018 comp as it came fully spec’d before BMW had to put in OPF and change the driveshaft from carbon to steel making it more heavy.

Did this really happen, confirmed? I've heard it both ways, with most saying it was just rumored to happen but never did. The CS cars also received the carbon driveshaft after 2018 regardless.

[bvrider1]

That's one of the reasons I went with a 2017 ZCP.

Outside of the CS model, I am interested to see if anyone has a 2018 ZCP that has a CF drive shaft.

Originally Posted by NickyC

Did this really happen, confirmed? I've heard it both ways, with most saying it was just rumored to happen but never did. The CS cars also received the carbon driveshaft after 2018 regardless.

[mitch32]

M4 Comp in 2019 (and throughout all the years) had different hardware for dampers/spring/sway-bars and exhaust, and engine/steering/diff all had different tuning.

M4 Comp has the exact same suspension (minus the front sway bar and tuning) as a M4 CS and most will attest it's the better setup then an M4 non-comp. You can code in M4 CS suspension/diff/steering/TC tuning to an M4 comp.

Get an M4 comp! It's kind of amazing that the price difference is not that much at this point in time between a base and a competition.