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      03-17-2016, 12:05 PM   #67
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I would love something like that at home. But, I don't have the room or the height clearance in the garage. Also, not so portable.
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True. But my problem with this is the height clearance. I don't think my garage ceiling has enough. But, yeah, great value.
For those that referenced the height restrictions, it's worth thinking about. It's a complete no-go with an 8-9 ft tall ceiling. My garage is about 11' tall, which means I can't lift it anywhere near full height, but when lifted to within 6" of the ceiling, I can comfortably work on the underside of cars while seated on a rolling stool. This has been a great upgrade from working lying down on my back.

Keep in mind most of the 'lifting' projects we track rats tend to do only lift the car about 12-18" for wheel clearance. For brakes / fluids / maintenance, almost any height ceiling will be fine.
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My quickjack goes to 24". I have 9' ceilings so anymore than this would've been useless. IMO unless you can sit under the car (48-60" lift) you're on your back anyway and should find the best solution for you. I'm able to fit this in the M3 if I need it and there is the option to be able to use the car's 12V supply to power it.
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      03-17-2016, 05:18 PM   #69
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I also just recently bought the quickjack. The only regret is wasting my money on ramps and jacks. It works extremely well when I used it last weekend to swap out my winters. Now I get to use it again this weekend to swap out my summers. It will snow after 70deg weather last week.
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I also just recently bought the quickjack. The only regret is wasting my money on ramps and jacks. It works extremely well when I used it last weekend to swap out my winters. Now I get to use it again this weekend to swap out my summers. It will snow after 70deg weather last week.
Same feelings regarding wasted money here. Worse part about it is lugging it around.
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If I were to lift the rear, is it best advised to lift from one of the points pictured here and place one stand in place, and do the same on the other side? Or have you guys managed to get both stands in place by jacking the car up once from one of those points?


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      03-19-2016, 10:33 AM   #72
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Which is the best quickjack model for our cars?
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I bought the BL 5000SLX. I was debating on the 3500 since it was significantly cheaper but played it safe and got the bigger model. I plan to use it for my SUV too and do not plan to take it to the track. Not many cars are 3500 pounds or less anymore and the M3 is right around there plus or minus base on configuration.

I may post a video of it in action, I will be bleeding my brakes within the next two weeks.
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Make sure to get the measurements and confirm they will work. The 3500 IMO is meant for older cars. I can't think of many cars under 3500 lbs. They also have a 7k model now.
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If I were to lift the rear, is it best advised to lift from one of the points pictured here and place one stand in place, and do the same on the other side? Or have you guys managed to get both stands in place by jacking the car up once from one of those points?

Yes, lift from one of those black metal points and you'll be able to place both rear jack stands. The subframe is very stiff, the opposite side jack point was only a 1/2" or so lower than the near side.

As described before, once the rear is up on jack stands you should be able to slide your floor jack to the central front jack point and get the front up for the last two jack stands.
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Yes, lift from one of those black metal points and you'll be able to place both rear jack stands. The subframe is very stiff, the opposite side jack point was only a 1/2" or so lower than the near side.

As described before, once the rear is up on jack stands you should be able to slide your floor jack to the central front jack point and get the front up for the last two jack stands.
This worked for me too! Needed to rotate my rear tires.
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It's a "chock" folks, not a "chuck". You use a chuck with a drill, you use a wheel chock in front or behind a tire to prevent the car from rolling.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wheel_chock
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      10-27-2016, 10:32 AM   #78
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So my cost effective yet damage free solution so far is:

http://www.sears.com/craftsman-2-1-4...p-00950182000P
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00VUKG9ZY
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BPHES8W

-As mentioned before, jack up the back from arms or central frame, use a hockey puck to keep the paint unscratched
-Place the rear jack stands in the plastic jack points using the rubber adapters, they fit nicely on top of the middle flat part of the claws on the craftsman jacks I have
-Snake in floor jack from the side to the front central point and pump up
-Place front jack stands, same as before.

Flat topped jack stands would be more ideal, but I already had these jack stands and it works perfectly. Even if I had to buy new jack stands, I'd still find it hard to spend $300 vs $30 for 4 jack stands.
theomega How are these rubber jack pads holding up? Any regrets buying these versus the more expensive machined aluminum ones? I am about to purchase a set for myself and these are a lot cheaper. I also have jack stands that have claw shape tops, so not sure if the rubber will hold up ok sitting on the claws. Do they get torn up? Thanks.

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theomega How are these rubber jack pads holding up? Any regrets buying these versus the more expensive machined aluminum ones? I am about to purchase a set for myself and these are a lot cheaper. I also have jack stands that have claw shape tops, so not sure if the rubber will hold up ok sitting on the claws. Do they get torn up? Thanks.
i bought one aluminum for the jack and made two rubber ones out of pucks.

you need the rubber ones for the claw shaped stands because the aluminum one wont fit. i actually had to square off two sides of the rubber ones to fit in the claws.

if i were you i'd purchase the aluminum one first and see if it fits in your claws as I believe the claws are different sizes depending on stand.
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2 Jacks
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https://www.quickjack.com
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      11-03-2017, 09:53 PM   #81
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So I was using a 4 point lift and for some reason there are no threads explaining lift placement. The two front two point lifts can sign on the recommended jack placement tabs... but the rear ones are not short enough or long enough to align with the pic. Instead I put them where the green dots are on the pic. Anyone use a lift and recommended elsewhre?
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So I was using a 4 point lift and for some reason there are no threads explaining lift placement. The two front two point lifts can sign on the recommended jack placement tabs... but the rear ones are not short enough or long enough to align with the pic. Instead I put them where the green dots are on the pic. Anyone use a lift and recommended elsewhre?
I would like some insight on this as well - where are the best alternate lift points when using a 4-point lift like the one pictured? I have access to a lift (hobby shop on the military base where I work) but quickly realized that the lift arms do not align with my F80 as posted above. The lift pictured is a very common 4-point lift design found in garages all over (except BMW dealers apparently). Makes me wonder if BMW designed the cars this way on purpose so they only fit on the lifts at the BMW dealers (using the 4 jack points on the sides of the car).

Right now I only use a muffler/exhaust system/oil change lift (the one where you drive on to it) which of course does not help if the wheels need to be removed for maintenance.
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I have had my car at several shops and never ever was there an issue with lifting the car. The arms on those lifts adjust both in angle and length
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I have had my car at several shops and never ever was there an issue with lifting the car. The arms on those lifts adjust both in angle and length
There wasn't an issue lifting the car but you're probably unaware that they didn't use the jack points on the car.
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I'd like to understand the SAFEST way to get the car on jackstands (first to not get killed, second to not damage the car). There are plenty of folks saying you can simply lift by the differential but this seems awfully error prone given that BMW never recommended this.

If I have the following:

1 hydraulic floor jack (Link)
1 Cross beam (Link)
2 ESCO Jack stands (Link)
2 ECS Tuning Pad Adapters (Link)

I should be able to:

0. Chock the wheels opposite to the end of the car being raised
1. Use the floor jack to jack the car up from the rear by the two points in the picture, using the cross beam to support both points of the rear (or front by the single front center jack point).
2. Slide the esco jack stands and pad adapters under the sides of the car aligned under the jack points.
3. Slowly lower the jack onto the stands positioned under the side jack points.

Does anyone see any problems with this approach or recommend a better idea while keeping safety of the person (first) and car in mind?

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There has been a lot of discussions in this thread on how to put our cars on four jack stands. I have not been able to find a video that demonstrates how to do it that is specific to our M3 and M4. So when I had to put my car on jack stands to work on the mid pipe and exhaust, and bleed the brake fluid, I recorded the process and put it into a video shared it in the thread below.

Hope this helps.

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...php?p=24974680
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I decided to use safe jacks. They are awesome
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I decided to use safe jacks. They are awesome
I can’t believe after an hour of reading this entire thread nobody else is praising these safe jacks!

These look awesome.

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