Installed my Ultimate Clutch Pedal

RocketBoots · 02-12-2016, 11:39 AM

Let us know what you think!

tom @ eas · 02-12-2016, 11:42 AM

Definitely a gotta-have-it-mod for the 6MT crowd. Once installed, you'll wonder why you waited so long.

Irishsig · 02-12-2016, 12:51 PM

Damn it! Why did I read this thread?
Just one more mod, I swear....one moooore.
Story of my life.

RocketBoots · 02-12-2016, 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Definitely a gotta-have-it-mod for the 6MT crowd. Once installed, you'll wonder why you waited so long.

I generally don't agree with these kind of blanket statements, but in this case, I'd say it's true. That is, only if you prefer enhanced feel and smoothness, and connection with your car. And yes, I did wonder why I waited so long

Quote:

Originally Posted by Irishsig

Damn it! Why did I read this thread?
Just one more mod, I swear....one moooore.
Story of my life.

Of the mods I've done on my car, this is probably my second favorite so far, the first being my audio upgrade. Just one more Ultimate Clutch Pedal, and then you're done. You swear

ralphwarren · 02-15-2016, 03:34 PM

Hello Everyone,

Thank you all for the nice words and for pointing out installation issues you may have encountered when installing the UCP in a newer car.

I have added an addendum to the instructions noting differences between the install in a 135 & E90/E92 M3 (when the instruction were written) vs. the F30/32 & F80/82 (most installs today). Sorry for any confusion.

If you have any issues with the installation, you can message me on Facebook under "Ultimate Clutch Pedal". You can also email me directly at ralph.warren "at" cox "dot" net.

Feel free to "Like" us on Facebook... Ultimate Clutch Pedal. Be sure to include a picture of your car so we can add it to our web site "Member's Gallery".

Sincerely,
-Ralph Warren (UCP)

SROC3 · 02-17-2016, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RocketBoots

I generally don't agree with these kind of blanket statements, but in this case, I'd say it's true. That is, only if you prefer enhanced feel and smoothness, and connection with your car. And yes, I did wonder why I waited so long

RocketBoots · 02-17-2016, 09:47 AM

Hi Ralph, nice of you to drop a line here. Thanks for making such an awesome product

BTW, I think I'm past my 'honeymoon' period with this thing, and I still feel the same way: It's great!

Quote:

Originally Posted by ralphwarren

Hello Everyone,

Thank you all for the nice words and for pointing out installation issues you may have encountered when installing the UCP in a newer car.

I have added an addendum to the instructions noting differences between the install in a 135 & E90/E92 M3 (when the instruction were written) vs. the F30/32 & F80/82 (most installs today). Sorry for any confusion.

If you have any issues with the installation, you can message me on Facebook under "Ultimate Clutch Pedal". You can also email me directly at ralph.warren "at" cox "dot" net.

Feel free to "Like" us on Facebook... Ultimate Clutch Pedal. Be sure to include a picture of your car so we can add it to our web site "Member's Gallery".

Sincerely,
-Ralph Warren (UCP)

steven26 · 05-14-2016, 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PeteX-

I just installed my UCP, and am thankful for your advice about springs before master cylinder! Both went fairly easily. I had a heckuva time with a module on the left (more specifically its plastic mount) that kept me from removing the old clutch for the longest time. I have some pics and will do a writeup soon. I dropped a note to Tom @ EAS and want to get his feedback first.

I'm also having a hard time removing the stock clutch pedal due to this plastic mount on the left. Anybody have any advice on this?

03Saleen · 05-15-2016, 10:55 PM

I've always been wary of mods like these. In theory it sounds awesome and I'm sure it is, but things like this have always created problems down the road for me. For example putting pressure on the master cylinder while not being depressed and prematurely wearing out the clutch.

x.shell · 05-15-2016, 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by 03Saleen

I've always been wary of mods like these. In theory it sounds awesome and I'm sure it is, but things like this have always created problems down the road for me. For example putting pressure on the master cylinder while not being depressed and prematurely wearing out the clutch.

Any more specifics on your experience?

tom @ eas · 05-17-2016, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 03Saleen

I've always been wary of mods like these. In theory it sounds awesome and I'm sure it is, but things like this have always created problems down the road for me. For example putting pressure on the master cylinder while not being depressed and prematurely wearing out the clutch.

We've installed a number of these on past and present M3/M4s and have never experienced what you are describing.

chewbakam4 · 05-18-2016, 05:29 AM

I had the UCP in my 335. It worked ok but nothing special to be honest and eventually I didn't really know why I even bought it.

rubber_ducky · 05-18-2016, 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by exo-shell

Any more specifics on your experience?

I understood his post to be that his concern is the kind of thing that he worries about vs it having been something he's actually dealt with in the past. But I could very well be wrong.

Mandi90TT · 05-18-2016, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by rubber_ducky

I understood his post to be that his concern is the kind of thing that he worries about vs it having been something he's actually dealt with in the past. But I could very well be wrong.

If that is the case, then it is simply a case of FUD.

x.shell · 05-18-2016, 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

We've installed a number of these on past and present M3/M4s and have never experienced what you are describing.

Quote:

Originally Posted by rubber_ducky

I understood his post to be that his concern is the kind of thing that he worries about vs it having been something he's actually dealt with in the past. But I could very well be wrong.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dave 90TT

If that is the case, then it is simply a case of FUD.

03Saleen
Please expand on your experience that included "premature wear on the clutch". Although, a number of other factors can lead to premature wear of anything, I was hoping you would expand on the details of your statement. For example, was it a BMW clutch you replaced with a UCP that resulted in the clutch wear? Or was it some fly by night aftermarket clutch for an old Scion TC?

These details matter.

A lot of claims with no specific information get made on the forums; and some times these statements get perpetuated like a game of telephone which ultimately tarnishes a product for no reason at all. The reason why I'm asking you to expand on your statement is because there is indeed a plausible engineering basis for what you claim. However, the number of positive reviews for this product seem to indicate that any "extra pressure" on the master cylinder might be an installation error or defective product. I'm not trying to roast you; I just want to know the details of your experience.

BTW, my Ultimate Clutch Pedal is at home. I'm waiting for a free day to do the install. So I'll be checking this thread regularly.

Mandi90TT · 05-18-2016, 03:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by exo-shell

A lot of claims with no specific information get made on the forums; and some times these statements get perpetuated like a game of telephone which ultimately tarnishes a product for no reason at all. The reason why I'm asking you to expand on your statement is because there is indeed a plausible engineering basis for what you claim. However, the number of positive reviews for this product seem to indicate that any "extra pressure" on the master cylinder might be an installation error or defective product. I'm not trying to roast you; I just want to know the details of your experience.

BTW, my Ultimate Clutch Pedal is at home. I'm waiting for a free day to do the install. So I'll be checking this thread regularly.

That's what I meant by FUD (Fear, Uncertainty, Doubt)

RocketBoots · 05-18-2016, 05:14 PM

Having done the install myself, I don't see how the UCP would put any extra pressure on the master cylinder, as it sits in the exact same position as OEM in relation to the master cylinder pin. It's simply the geometry of the physical pedal itself that accounts for any differences.

Also, I understand everybody's not going to like it, and the difference is not night/day from OEM. I just found it very much to my liking, with minimal to no risks or tradeoffs.

sittingmongoose · 05-18-2016, 07:32 PM

Is the install process the same for DCT? Same results?

RocketBoots · 05-18-2016, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by sittingmongoose

Is the install process the same for DCT? Same results?

It's nearly the same, just slightly more complicated; slightly, only because you need a lift.

sh55 · 05-20-2016, 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RocketBoots

Quote:

Originally Posted by sittingmongoose

Is the install process the same for DCT? Same results?

It's nearly the same, just slightly more complicated; slightly, only because you need a lift.

:

x.shell · 05-20-2016, 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sittingmongoose

Is the install process the same for DCT? Same results?

Quote:

Originally Posted by RocketBoots

It's nearly the same, just slightly more complicated; slightly, only because you need a lift.

Quote:

Originally Posted by sh55

:

There is a new product coming out for DCT users that regret their life choices. It's infinitely easier to install. Looks great and has the same great feel of the Ultimate Clutch Pedal on 6MT cars.

It's Friday.

....

Mandi90TT · 05-20-2016, 03:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sittingmongoose

Is the install process the same for DCT? Same results?

Seriously?

I mean, seriously?

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