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I keep going back and forth on this. I just don't understand why BMW didn't extend the front fender arches another ~0.5" outward and downward, which would have closed that wheel gap and pushed the fender arches out to be more even with the back.
I had a local reputable shop quote me $1700 to install Eibach v2 springs, and that's if I provide the springs. That was enough to keep me from going forward with it. I may get another quote or two. But I'm still very torn on whether I should risk the lower ground clearance, or not.
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Install: no more than 2 hours. Should be no more than $600 for everything. |
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Congrats on the purchase. This is a great find with 6MT, low miles and the carbonstructure cloth interior.
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Also, that slightly taller/wider 265 tire in front does help a bit with making the front gap look a little smaller.
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06-29-2019, 10:29 AM | #50 |
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Congrats! When those Continentals are gone you'll be shocked how much more amazing the car is with Michelin PS4S.
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06-29-2019, 10:56 AM | #51 | |
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Its even more than BMW dealerships quote for their own HAS Spring kit which need to be adjusted for height and bit more complicated to install properly. |
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06-29-2019, 02:22 PM | #52 | ||
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Next go around I might change it up, though. Regardless, I'm just glad to finally have proper traction in 2nd gear. Quote:
I've had springs installed on multiple cars over the years and this was by far the most ridiculous quote I've received. It was only $500 to have springs installed on my S4. I'll see what some other shops say.
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I had someone in the regional sub-forum recommend two additional shops in my area (Auto Sport Werks and Bimmerhaus). The first one quoted me $850 at 6 hours of labor, just to install the front two springs. He also made it clear that he had never done a spring install on an F80/F82/F83 and that they specialize in older models.
The second shop quoted me $1,650 to install the front two springs and do an alignment. They called out the removal of the two front strut braces (metal one & CF one) as being the most time consuming part of the whole install and the core reason why it takes so long (hence, the large labor quotes). Is this really the pricing I can expect to pay for having 2 springs installed? For giggles, I just called my BMW dealer to get a quote on parts/labor for the M-Performance HAS kit. $1,700 for parts and $900 for labor. At this point I'm going to put this idea on hold while I do more research and determine if it's a project I can take on myself, with a buddy.
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Looks great! I too came from the B8/B8.5 platform.
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I can have the carbon and metal front strut braces out of my car in less than 10mins. 5 if i was really rushing. Springs on this car is super easy to do. Theirs several youtube videos showing step by step instructions.
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07-09-2019, 08:41 AM | #57 |
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OP, how'd the continentals work out...I almost went with those in those sizes before I went with PS4S...interested to hear how you like them and how they look...should be a tad meatier than stock.
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In the past I went with Continental ExtremeContact DW tires on my old STI. More recently, with the S4, I went with Pilot Super Sports. My only complaint with the PSSs is that they simply don't seem to last as long as the ExtremeContact's. This time around I decided to go with the ExtremeContact Sports because in my experience the ExtremeContact series produces less road noise than the equivalent Pilot tires. Also, the reviews for this tire compared to the PS4S seem to indicate that the ExtremeContacts have better traction in wet conditions. The lower price was also nice. As far as traction goes, I'm very pleased. I no longer have to worry about the car CONSTANTLY losing traction in 2nd. I can now get on it in 2nd/3rd without worrying about the back end getting squirmy. And for looks, the 285/35 rear and 265/35 front sit perfect square with my OEM wheels, which is what I prefer. I hear the PS4S sit notably wider, preventing the use of a 10mm spacer in the rear. I've got a 10mm spacer installed and there is no rubbing and I've gone over some considerable bumps. With all that said, the PS4S is still considered the all-around superior performance tire. But, for a daily driver, you're not going to go wrong with either one. Quote:
This last shop just gave me a quote of $700 for install and alignment. This is still a bit high, especially for just 2 springs, but it is MUCH more in line with what an install + alignment should be. So, I decided to go ahead and get the install/alignment on the books for next Thursday! As a result, I also finalized my order on Eibach Euro v1 springs. After doing lots of researching, it appears the v1's have a more subtle drop of 0.8" after settling, confirmed by other members on here. The v2's apparently have a tendency to be closer to a full 1"+ drop, once settled, which make the front perfectly flush with the front tires but also lead to more scraping. So, by next weekend I'll have some updated pics with the front lowered. Winter is gonna be brutal.
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But I don't mind giving business to a local shop either. Just don't want to feel like I'm getting mugged in the process.
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I was just hoping to take the lazy approach this time around. But there's no fun in that. This is the install guide I've been paying the closest attention to. Let me know if there is another one that's better... After watching this guide a few times, it really seems like a simple install. I'm left with a couple of questions... 1) What are the specs of the strut nut socket required for the 2 front top spring mounts? I'll need to pick one of those up. EDIT: NVM, found it: 18mm 12 tooth (LINK) 2) What's the consensus on whether a spring compressor is necessary for this? On all my previous cars it was mandatory. but I'm reading that the spring tension on the front springs of the F80 is low enough that a compressor is not necessary. Thoughts?
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Thanks! Well this is just getting less and less daunting. Someone else said that the front springs on the F80/82 M3/M4 is the easiest they've ever experienced. If the install goes the way it seems, I'll have to agree.
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Just don't do what I did and forget to re-attach the headlight leveling sensor, had to jack it back up when I was done lol |
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Haha! I will make sure to be thorough when buttoning everything up. I've got my buddy scheduled to come help next (not this upcoming) Saturday. I plan on getting it started Friday night, on my own. If it really is as easy as it seems I'll probably have it done before he can even get here.
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