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Total time taken for the complete crank hub install was at 20 hours.
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This job really doesn't seem that bad with the right tools. I just did the top end and Vanos on an S52 in about the same amount of time. |
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Hopefully the labor rates will come down like it came down for the E92 M3 Rod Bearings.
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I would think that we are coming up on a good 3 years since the car has been on the market. Every M sold should have experienced at least one kick-down or hard acceleration. Perhaps we may start to see a wave of failures. Last edited by overlook637; 12-06-2018 at 07:24 PM.. |
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The risk reward tolerance on $4k spend to fix a $20k SCH would imply a 20 percent chance of a SCH occurring in order to justify the cost. SCH, while a known issue, is relatively small percentage, surely smaller than 1 percent at this point (my guess). To me, it doesn't make sense to do it unless you are extremely risk adverse or you're tuning to push insane power.
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SCHs have happened even on stock platforms (most likely covered under warranty), there's not a definitive cause of failure - only theories. I would think there are a lot more cases of SCH floating around out there, however not disclosed in hopes to get it taken care of under warranty. This forum makes up only a small percentage of the total number of M3/M4s on the road. For stock platforms under warranty - no need to look further, that's what warranties are for. This solution is intended for those keeping their M3/M4s for long term or seeing track use/aggressively driven/adding power.
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For some its not the cost of the prevention or cost of repairs later. It is the ability to plan for the mod instead of having to deal with the unknown failure at a inopportune time. Such as failure while driving to the airport causing a missed important flight. Driving to work on a day of a busy workday. On family vacation a few hours from a dealership or car rental. |
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I agree that this forum makes up a small percentage of the total M3's out there. What's actually more likely is that if someone had an issue, they'd be posting which inherently makes the forum a bias source for determining % of SCH's. Quote:
Regardless, people can spend whatever they money to protect their downside. I think the SCH is blown way out of proportion on the forum due to survivorship/selection bias. If you're risk adverse and/or tuning hard, go for it. But economically it doesn't make any sense. In terms of practicality or reducing the risk of a missed flight or a busy work day, sure. |
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Where could you ever imagine a relationship between those 2 items. :LOL: It’s a $4000 Insurance policy against a $20,000+ Expense that some people would rather protect themselves against. |
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For argument sake, people balk and buying a $6k warranty on their 3 year old m4 which probably cost $45k. So why would you pay $4k for something that cost $20k to fix? Once again, if you tuned your car and are trying to squeeze every ounce out of it, I understand that the value proposition of the SCH fix. |
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So I'm betting $4k. You are paying $0 and could end up with a $30k loss. Again, as it stated over and over in the mod threads, if you want to mod, you have to prepare to pay.....big time. I'm capping my expenses. |
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That’s being polite. I’m not worrying in the back of my mind about the possibility of it happening. And that’s priceless. |
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I don't know how does it come up with 4K total (200 per hr?!) but I been heard ppl paid around 1800+ 700 vtt hub from ppl in NY and ppl in CA. I never heard ppl paid 4K total!
Anyways, compares to turbo, forged rim, good coilover, 2.5k or, is really not that expensive. But for those who has their car in stock, there is nothing to worry as warrant will cover. |
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1. replacement crank hub metal is strong enough, doesn't break/bend during kick down 2. it doesn't spanning by itself with base hub on it (one piece design or keyed to base) 3. bolt doesn't get loose. it should prevent the crank hub spin problem. so AFAIK gintani, maximum psi and vtt should all fixed this issue. i dont trust gintani because back to e60 e63 e92 time their products are more expensive and saw some damage people post online. was going for maximum psi hub but no stock from early sept to nov when vtt hub came out. so i just ordered vtt hub which should also fix the problem too by looking at their design and video. |
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