Easy way to tell if a car has ZCP?

RideZX6R · 07-11-2018, 05:16 PM

Hey all,

I'm in the market for an M4 ZCP and I'm looking at used vehicles.

However not all dealers list the comp pack in the details about the car, so I'm curious if there's a way to tell if the car has this package by pictures?

A specific button/seat type etc to look for?

I did search but it seems that either this question wasn't asked before OR it's buried within a very long thread and I was unable to find it.

Help is appreciated.

marvinp · 07-11-2018, 05:24 PM

Blacked out M logo on the rear, blacked out side gills, 666M wheels, black chrome exhaust tips, front seat belts with M-stitching.

CharlieVictor · 07-11-2018, 05:25 PM

The two most certain clues will be the 20" wheels and the cutouts on the front seats. I'd say the seats are the most certain, since they're the most likely feature of the Comp Pkge to not get retrofitted to a non-comp car. To be sure, run the car's VIN through a VIN decoder online and see what the build list says.

racer01 · 07-11-2018, 05:26 PM

ZCP specific wheels and seats made it easy for me when i was looking. Wheels seem to be an easy spot.

RideZX6R · 07-11-2018, 05:34 PM

Could anyone post an example of ZCP seats vs non-ZCP by chance?

Thanks so much for the quick help!

RickFLM4 · 07-11-2018, 05:35 PM

In the absence of seeing the original sticker that has a matching VIN, and assuming it is a coupe - cut out seats. I have ZCP and opted for 19” wheels so wheels aren’t definitive. Black grill and other parts can be purchased and I’m guessing seats belts can as well.

RickFLM4 · 07-11-2018, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RideZX6R

Could anyone post an example of ZCP seats vs non-ZCP by chance?

Thanks so much for the quick help!

Just google M4 seats. ZCP have the cut outs.

uniqueMR · 07-11-2018, 06:23 PM

Everyone is right

Thescout13 · 07-11-2018, 06:43 PM

Here I will copy the sticky for you Official BMW M3 and M4 Competition Package Details, Pricing and Photos https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1214853

CanAutM3 · 07-11-2018, 07:18 PM

I’d say the only sure bet is the cutout front seats.

All other visual CP elements are either offered as options or easily retrofitable. The 20” 666M wheels are a good clue, but the CP can also be ordered with the 19” 437M. The ///M seatbelt stitching as well as the blacked out chrome elements are offered as options on non-CP in some countries.

RideZX6R · 07-11-2018, 07:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickFLM4

Just google M4 seats. ZCP have the cut outs.

I just did this and had no idea the seat design was so very different! Wow

I feel a big foolish for asking for pics (as I thought the difference might be minute enough to need highlighting), but I appreciate all the helpful context here!

RickFLM4 · 07-11-2018, 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RideZX6R

I just did this and had no idea the seat design was so very different! Wow

I feel a big foolish for asking for pics (as I thought the difference might be minute enough to need highlighting), but I appreciate all the helpful context here!

They aren't really that different. ZCP seats just have the cut outs and lose adjustable lumbar support. Otherwise, I believe they are the same seats. There are numerous threads that debate ZCP vs. non-ZCP, including which seat is "better" than the other.

Hachima · 07-11-2018, 10:57 PM

Vin lookup will show:
P7MNA M Competition package
S7MAA Competition package

Alvinized52 · 07-11-2018, 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RickFLM4

They aren't really that different. ZCP seats just have the cut outs and lose adjustable lumbar support. Otherwise, I believe they are the same seats. There are numerous threads that debate ZCP vs. non-ZCP, including which seat is "better" than the other.

Ive sat in both seats. I prefer non-Zcp seat because i have bad back. The lumbar support makes a huge difference to me. I can do away with the “tickle holes” on the ZCP seats.

Aapparition90 · 07-12-2018, 04:53 AM

Biggest giveaway is tickle holes

domino_z · 07-12-2018, 05:00 AM

Seats

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stormlv · 07-12-2018, 07:04 AM

As others have pointed out wheels are not a sure thing.
I ordered mine with the 19" 437M wheels

Seats are sure thing.

Here are the seats with the cutout

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CharlieVictor Private 30 Rep 58 Posts Drives: 2015 F80 6-speed YMB Join Date: Nov 2016 Location: SoCal iTrader: (1)	The two most certain clues will be the 20" wheels and the cutouts on the front seats. I'd say the seats are the most certain, since they're the most likely feature of the Comp Pkge to not get retrofitted to a non-comp car. To be sure, run the car's VIN through a VIN decoder online and see what the build list says.
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RickFLM4 Brigadier General 10958 Rep 4,819 Posts Drives: M4 Join Date: Jul 2015 Location: PB County, FL iTrader: (0)	In the absence of seeing the original sticker that has a matching VIN, and assuming it is a coupe - cut out seats. I have ZCP and opted for 19” wheels so wheels aren’t definitive. Black grill and other parts can be purchased and I’m guessing seats belts can as well. __________________ Current: 2018 SO/SS F83 ZCP Gone: 2015 SO/SO F82
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CanAutM3 General 21115 Rep 20,741 Posts Drives: 2021 911 turbo Join Date: Jan 2012 Location: Montreal iTrader: (1) Garage List 2022 Audi RS6 [10.00] 2021 Porsche 911 turbo [10.00]	I’d say the only sure bet is the cutout front seats. All other visual CP elements are either offered as options or easily retrofitable. The 20” 666M wheels are a good clue, but the CP can also be ordered with the 19” 437M. The ///M seatbelt stitching as well as the blacked out chrome elements are offered as options on non-CP in some countries. __________________ Porsche 911 turbo 2021 992 GT Silver Previous cars: M4cs 2019 F82 Limerock Grey / M4 2015 F82 Silverstone / M3 2008 E92 Silverstone / M3 2002 E46 Carbon Black
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