bootmod3: CustomROM release - Map Switching, Flex Fuel, AntiLag, New Map Editor...

[Mr Newton]

CustomROM does not work as intended, I run M4 CS.
ROM: 018905 (old map) works perfectly.
Strange

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by Eric SS

Hmm.. Could it be because originally I was on Map 1 93 octane but switched to Map 1 91 octane when the car was moved from a 93 state to a 91 state? Now in my maps list all I have are stock and Map 1 91

Not sure what the issue could be as I wouldn’t think that would matter as it is still is a Stage 1 map. I know if I wanted to switch between the different Stage 1 maps I could do so - but I have only lived in areas with 93 octane. Best bet would be to contact PTF...

[HyeM3]

Originally Posted by jmciver

That does not sound right as the Stage 1 multimap is just a grouping of all the Stage 1 map and the stock CS map. I was running the Stage 1 93 Octane, which is what I paid for with my license long ago. When the Stage 1 multimap was available for flashing, I was able to flash it since I already had the single map credit. Now, if I also wanted to add the Stage 2 multimap (or any of the other "not free" maps) to "My Maps" list, in addition to the Stage 1 map I already have, I would need to pay extra.

The multimap isn't just a bunch of existing ots maps bundled together. The maps also have flex fuel incorporated into them so you can run all those maps with E85 if you have the proper hardware. The multimap isn't free so yes you'll need to pay $100 for the map pack in order to get it if you don't have any unused credits

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by HyeM3

The multimap isn't just a bunch of existing ots maps bundled together. The maps also have flex fuel incorporated into them so you can run all those maps with E85 if you have the proper hardware. The multimap isn't free so yes you'll need to pay $100 for the map pack in order to get it if you don't have any unused credits

Well, that was not my experience regarding going from Stage 1 93 to Stage 1 multimap, I did not have to pay anything extra and my license is only for one OTS map. So I don't know what to say other than maybe PTF changed their pricing policies since I purchased my original license (used) a few years ago.

Also, the OTS maps included with the Stage 1 multimap are 4 original OTS maps grouped together. Specifically Stage 1 ACN 91, Stage 1 91, Stage 1 93, and Stock CS - which are no different than before. The new CustomROM feature allows these maps, or any CustomROM converted map, to use E85 with a flex fuel sensor if it is installed in your car - adjusting fuel/timing on the fly based on ethanol content in your tank, producing more HP/TQ.

If you don't have the flex fuel sensor installed, then the maps will operate at their originally tuned HP/TQ levels. I am running the Stage 1 multimap now, with no flex fuel sensor installed (yet). And I choose between Stage 1 93 for the street and Stock CS for the track. Both tunes run as they did previously when I flashed them individually to my car prior to using the Stage 1 Multimap now.

[Trevorstein]

I was told by PTF that if you had already chosen and flashed your (map credit)
free map you would normally have to purchase or have previously purchased,
the Map Pack bundle (+$100.00) in order to acquire access to the new MultMap.

Now, if you had previously purchased the bundle, you were good as this allows
you unlimited access to all (and future) OTS maps.


Cheers!

[HyeM3]

Originally Posted by jmciver

Well, that was not my experience regarding going from Stage 1 93 to Stage 1 multimap, I did not have to pay anything extra and my license is only for one OTS map. So I don't know what to say other than maybe PTF changed their pricing policies since I purchased my original license (used) a few years ago.

Also, the OTS maps included with the Stage 1 multimap are 4 original OTS maps grouped together. Specifically Stage 1 ACN 91, Stage 1 91, Stage 1 93, and Stock CS - which are no different than before. The new CustomROM feature allows these maps, or any CustomROM converted map, to use E85 with a flex fuel sensor if it is installed in your car - adjusting fuel/timing on the fly based on ethanol content in your tank, producing more HP/TQ.

If you don't have the flex fuel sensor installed, then the maps will operate at their originally tuned HP/TQ levels. I am running the Stage 1 multimap now, with no flex fuel sensor installed (yet). And I choose between Stage 1 93 for the street and Stock CS for the track. Both tunes run as they did previously when I flashed them individually to my car prior to using the Stage 1 Multimap now.

Those 4 maps still aren't the same as the ots ones. PTF took the ots maps and further configured them to support ethanol with the proper hardware. If you're on pump gas they function the same as the regular ots maps but that still doesn't mean it's the same map. And the multimap isn't free according to PTF so you must have had a token for a map already that you never used

[jmciver]

Originally Posted by HyeM3

Those 4 maps still aren't the same as the ots ones. PTF took the ots maps and further configured them to support ethanol with the proper hardware. If you're on pump gas they function the same as the regular ots maps but that still doesn't mean it's the same map. And the multimap isn't free according to PTF so you must have had a token for a map already that you never used

I think we are in "violent agreement" regarding how the original OTS maps work inside the new CustomROM multimap framework . As far as getting the new CustomROM multimap capability without paying an additional fee, I guess that must have been a glitch in the matrix in my favor .

[horsepower_and_hounds]

Originally Posted by Mr Newton

CustomROM does not work as intended, I run M4 CS.
ROM: 018905 (old map) works perfectly.
Strange

What does one do..... everything you download now comes up as custom rom...you can't fetch the old files if you didn't have them originally

[Trevorstein]

Originally Posted by jmciver

... As far as getting the new CustomROM multimap capability without paying an additional fee, I guess that must have been a glitch in the matrix in my favor .

You wrote that you purchased your license "used", correct?

Well, another more than likely possibility is that the original owner of that license did pay extra
and purchase the map pack along with his license.

Whatever the scenario, you nevertheless did come out ahead!

[USSEnterprise]

Originally Posted by horsepower_and_hounds

What does one do..... everything you download now comes up as custom rom...you can't fetch the old files if you didn't have them originally

Can someone elaborate on this please? I have a 2018 CS and was going to flash OTS Stage 1 map this weekend. Do those not work smoothly as they used to? I have no interest in map switching/E85/anti-lag etc., just want a straight up Stage 1 map.

Not possible by more??

[HyeM3]

Originally Posted by jmciver

I think we are in "violent agreement" regarding how the original OTS maps work inside the new CustomROM multimap framework . As far as getting the new CustomROM multimap capability without paying an additional fee, I guess that must have been a glitch in the matrix in my favor .

No violence here haha just here to help

[TopJimmy]

Originally Posted by xxaarraa

Can someone elaborate on this please? I have a 2018 CS and was going to flash OTS Stage 1 map this weekend. Do those not work smoothly as they used to? I have no interest in map switching/E85/anti-lag etc., just want a straight up Stage 1 map.

Not possible by more??

There was a bug in the BM3 Agent released the day CustomROM/ MultiMap went live. This was fixed same day by PTF. The agent in the updated phone app didn't have the bug, and the BM3 Agent auto-updates, so you're good now. You shouldn't have a problem now flashing a "plain old" OTS map, but it can take a long time like a first flash can.

[Mr Newton]

Originally Posted by horsepower_and_hounds

What does one do..... everything you download now comes up as custom rom...you can't fetch the old files if you didn't have them originally

There is more behind this, it only affects CS owners apparently.

The thing is, I had saved my old map in "My Maps" (luckily). Therefore, I can still use a non-CustomROM.

PTF is on it.

[Bon F80]

anyone knows please if a tuner can combine stock, Stage 0+, Stage CS+ & Stage 1 91 into a MultiMap?

[Eric SS]

Just an update on this. I heard back from PTF and I do need to purchase the map bundle which is a shame. I only plan on going from stage 1 91 octane to.....stage 1 91 octane. I'm not going to flex tune so I don't need that. $100 seems a bit steep for antilag. And I'm not going to ever use the other 3 maps. We don't even have 93 octane here. The only map I would like to be able to switch to is the OEM map occasionally and for that I would still need to flash back because it's not one of the included maps.

[TopJimmy]

Originally Posted by Eric SS

Just an update on this. I heard back from PTF and I do need to purchase the map bundle which is a shame. I only plan on going from stage 1 91 octane to.....stage 1 91 octane. I'm not going to flex tune so I don't need that. $100 seems a bit steep for antilag. And I'm not going to ever use the other 3 maps. We don't even have 93 octane here. The only map I would like to be able to switch to is the OEM map occasionally and for that I would still need to flash back because it's not one of the included maps.

In my opinion just the AntiLag is not worth $100 if you're staying at 91. I see AZ in your tag so I'm assuming ACN91.

Do you have E85 available to maybe take the E30 Stage 2? That would make the $100 worth it for the Map Pack.

[Eric SS]

Originally Posted by TopJimmy

In my opinion just the AntiLag is not worth $100 if it's 91->91.

Agreed. I'm going to pass on this at least until they will allow users to pick which maps they want to be able to place in the slots.

[TopJimmy]

Originally Posted by Bon F80

anyone knows please if a tuner can combine stock, Stage 0+, Stage CS+ & Stage 1 91 into a MultiMap?

Halim is the guy who writes the OTS maps, but a custom tune from HCP is not cheap. He does high end cutting edge stuff so a small job like this may not bring interest.

[HyeM3]

Originally Posted by Eric SS

Just an update on this. I heard back from PTF and I do need to purchase the map bundle which is a shame. I only plan on going from stage 1 91 octane to.....stage 1 91 octane. I'm not going to flex tune so I don't need that. $100 seems a bit steep for antilag.

You don't need to purchase the multi map for anti lag. You just need to convert your regular stage 1 tune to custom-rom and you'll get that feature for free. This can be done in the BM3 app

[Eric SS]

Originally Posted by HyeM3

You don't need to purchase the multi map for anti lag. You just need to convert your regular stage 1 tune to custom-rom and you'll get that feature for free. This can be done in the BM3 app

Oh OK, good info to have. thank you.

[Downeaster1]

I apologize if this is posted in the wrong area, but is it possible to stack different tunes with the map switching?
Ideally, I'd like:

Map 1: Valet (1ish PSI)
Map 2: Stock
Map 3: 93 Octane
Map 4: 100 octane

Is this possible, or am I just stupid. Thanks!

[Trevorstein]

Originally Posted by Downeaster1

I apologize if this is posted in the wrong area, but is it possible to stack different tunes with the map switching?
Ideally, I'd like:

Map 1: Valet (1ish PSI)
Map 2: Stock
Map 3: 93 Octane
Map 4: 100 octane

Is this possible, or am I just stupid. Thanks!

Sadly...

Not at present.

They are said to be working on this for a future release.


Cheers!