Review - Bootmod3 (BM3)

[TAM4CO]

Great, I've ordered a license and cable. Can't wait. Thanks

[SteveChester]

Originally Posted by TAM4CO

Great, I've ordered a license and cable. Can't wait. Thanks

You won't regret it 😀

[keiridin]

I recently purchased a 2017 F82 that has downpipes and a tune. The problem is, I can't tell what tune is on the car. So out of caution, I purchased BM3 and put stage 2 93octane on the car. This way I at least know what tune is in place.

Question - When I hooked up BM3 it said it has stage 0 on. Would it show stage 0 if there was a non bm3 tune on that it didn't recognize? Or perhaps the car had bm3 and it was set to stage 0?

Question - I simply flashed stage 2 to whatever was already in place, either an existing tune was there or it was stock. Should I have flashed the car to bm3's built in stock tune and then to stage 2? Did the stage 2 flash I did completely overwrite whatever was there?

[t5pilot]

Originally Posted by keiridin

I recently purchased a 2017 F82 that has downpipes and a tune. The problem is, I can't tell what tune is on the car. So out of caution, I purchased BM3 and put stage 2 93octane on the car. This way I at least know what tune is in place.

Question - When I hooked up BM3 it said it has stage 0 on. Would it show stage 0 if there was a non bm3 tune on that it didn't recognize? Or perhaps the car had bm3 and it was set to stage 0?

Question - I simply flashed stage 2 to whatever was already in place, either an existing tune was there or it was stock. Should I have flashed the car to bm3's built in stock tune and then to stage 2? Did the stage 2 flash I did completely overwrite whatever was there?

If it was showing a stage 0 tune already, chances are it has previously had BM3. If it was another vendors map, it wouldn't have shown. And chances are, if that was the case, you couldn't have backed it up anyway, as most are encrypted. I had this when I switched to BM3 from Alpine.
Stage 0 could be CS, CS+, or GTS.
If you didn't backup that map before flashing stage2, it's gone. But they're all free anyway, just go to the map page when you're logged in & save all the stage 0 maps to "my maps".
Flashing stage2 as you've done is fine, they're was no need to go back to a stock map first.
All will be good.

[F80 SM]

Hey t5pilot!

First post on here and nice to see some familiar usernames from Cutters.

Just had a wee read of your BM3 review. (Good write up!)

My M3 has had the DCT etc flashed by Zed recently, and I had an MPE fitted just before also.
I'm only after more noise from the MPE really. And I've never mapped a car in my life for more power.

I feel the M3 has more than enough in that aspect for me personally.

D'you think it's worth getting BM3 for what I'm after?

Cheers,
Stuart.

[t5pilot]

Hey Stuart,
BM3 will only give you more noise in respect of pops/bangs/crackles on over-run & accelerator lift-off.
This doesn't actually make the system louder - it just produces more sounds to begin with.
And tbh, you'll soon get fed up with the pops & crackles. I've actually got my BM3 set to have zero artificial sound generation.
Best way of just more volume will be having the valves permanently open.
That can also get tedious though, especially on a long run.
A valve controller would address this, rather than just unplugging the valves in the open position.
Other than that, you're looking at some aspect of cat delete. Either main downpipes (which you'll then have the EML to deal with), or secondary cats removal with an X mid-pipe section or similar.
I certainly wouldn't go down the BM3 path just for noise, don't believe there's benefit there.

[TAM4CO]

I'll attest to the pops and bangs getting old rather quickly.
I've set them to only occur higher up the rev range now. Previously had them set fairly low in Sport and crazy in Sport+, but you do feel like a bit of tw*t with it happening at low speeds or around town etc

[FJ_OPA80]

Originally Posted by TAM4CO

I'll attest to the pops and bangs getting old rather quickly.
I've set them to only occur higher up the rev range now. Previously had them set fairly low in Sport and crazy in Sport+, but you do feel like a bit of tw*t with it happening at low speeds or around town etc

Yeah I remember seeing a RR SVR go past at about 5mph in heavy traffic with very *very* loud pops and bangs as he was pootling around. Perhaps not a great comparison but it did make the driver look fairly daft

[TAM4CO]

Hey all,
So I've gone in to code out the cold start, but wanted to leave the GTS start up in place.
I select the options as such and code it in, but the cold start is still there. Was wondering if this is because you can't remove with the GTS start up in place?
Thanks

** Tried again this morning and appears to have worked **

[BMF80M3]

Originally Posted by t5pilot

Hey Stuart,
BM3 will only give you more noise in respect of pops/bangs/crackles on over-run & accelerator lift-off.
This doesn't actually make the system louder - it just produces more sounds to begin with.
And tbh, you'll soon get fed up with the pops & crackles. I've actually got my BM3 set to have zero artificial sound generation.
Best way of just more volume will be having the valves permanently open.
That can also get tedious though, especially on a long run.
A valve controller would address this, rather than just unplugging the valves in the open position.
Other than that, you're looking at some aspect of cat delete. Either main downpipes (which you'll then have the EML to deal with), or secondary cats removal with an X mid-pipe section or similar.
I certainly wouldn't go down the BM3 path just for noise, don't believe there's benefit there.

Just to confirm BM3 can keep the valves permanently open in Sports/ Sports+ Would you still recommend a valve controller/ can flap if i only want the valves permanently open in Sports mode.

Is there a difference between sound with BM3 valves open / can flap or valve controller?

[t5pilot]

Originally Posted by BMF80M3

Just to confirm BM3 can keep the valves permanently open in Sports/ Sports+ Would you still recommend a valve controller/ can flap if i only want the valves permanently open in Sports mode.

Is there a difference between sound with BM3 valves open / can flap or valve controller?

Yes, BM3 can be set to have the valves fully open in sport & s+.
It will sound identical to a valve controller.
You can of course use a valve controller whilst driving, providing it's permanently plugged in.

[Tommy9]

Originally Posted by t5pilot

It's a godsend for dealer visits too. I can flash the stock tune back on, tick the box for CAT delete (so no CEL warning), and re-lock the DME. Child's Play wizardry!

Just out of interest, (and I know this is digging up an old thread - sorry!), you mentioned being able to reflash the stock map and then lock the DME? Is this actually do-able? To be able to relock it on the standard stock map for the likes of servicing etc seems perfect! Always wanted to do a BM3 map but been worried about warranty and traceability if something goes pop! But would love to tune the burbles and sharpen the gearbox shifts and get rid of some of that ‘clunkiness’ etc. TIA!

[t5pilot]

Originally Posted by Tommy9

Just out of interest, (and I know this is digging up an old thread - sorry!), you mentioned being able to reflash the stock map and then lock the DME? Is this actually do-able? To be able to relock it on the standard stock map for the likes of servicing etc seems perfect! Always wanted to do a BM3 map but been worried about warranty and traceability if something goes pop! But would love to tune the burbles and sharpen the gearbox shifts and get rid of some of that 'clunkiness' etc. TIA!

Yes, it's one of the options available

[Tommy9]

Originally Posted by t5pilot

Yes, it's one of the options available

So I guess re-locking makes it seem as if it’s untouched for the likes of a service etc. ?

[SteveChester]

Originally Posted by Tommy9

So I guess re-locking makes it seem as if it’s untouched for the likes of a service etc. ?

If you look at some of the other posts they can still detect it has been mapped.

OK for a service though as suspect they won't be that bothered. Warranty work not so

[Nickers001]

great review and write up, very informative and will certainly look into this once I've purchased my M