Who else is considering the Giulia Quadrifoglio?

[mcc3456]

Originally Posted by damnitBobby

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...duction-review

Looks like C&D are already having issues on their new long term tester.

Never experienced any “service electronic throttle control” warning lights...during my 14,500 miles. However, the car will throw one and enter limp home mode if a person left foot brakes while simultaneously accelerating, other than from a stop. Turning the car off and restarting resets it though.

The smell referred to in the article can come from a bad gasket from what I understand. Simple fix. For the first 800-1,000 miles I remember a burning off cosmoline on the engine smell after a very spirit drive, but lasted only a few weeks. No different than any AMG, BMW, or Porsche I’ve had before.

Car has been flawless since...knock wood.

BTW...you are aware of an ECU/Fuel Pump Failure Software Conflict recall on all new M5s already, right? It happens on newly launched cars...even BMWs. You may also want to check out this thread sometime too to see all the various issues that have occurred on the M3/M4:

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/fo...play.php?f=628

And especially this one:

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/at...9&d=1413104939

Just saying...

[domino_z]

bought one of these, dealer discounting on new stock here was too good

it's fully optioned with the buckets and ceramics

i can rant for ages on the differences, especially considering we have all 3 in the fam, c63, m3 zcp, qv, all on ceramics - though amg put steels in the rear with single piston sliders off an a200, so sad

biggest takeaway for me is the ride/handling

i just put tractive shocks on my m3 zcp, yeh it improved the ride noticeably over stock, it's actually tolerable and doesn't crash over broken tarmac, but it still doesn't have that solid hunkered down feel at speed on a bumpy back road like a well designed double wishbone front end, in comparison the m3 feels like it's sitting on the road surface rather than pummeling it flat like in the alfa - there is only so much bmw can do with that cheap mcpherson strut solution, and the alfa (and even jag xe) really shows it when driven back to back

the rest, exhaust noise, material quality, looks etc are all subjective imo

[Aapparition90]

Originally Posted by domino_z

bought one of these, dealer discounting on new stock here was too good

it's fully optioned with the buckets and ceramics

i can rant for ages on the differences, especially considering we have all 3 in the fam, c63, m3 zcp, qv, all on ceramics - though amg put steels in the rear with single piston sliders off an a200, so sad

biggest takeaway for me is the ride/handling

i just put tractive shocks on my m3 zcp, yeh it improved the ride noticeably over stock, it's actually tolerable and doesn't crash over broken tarmac, but it still doesn't have that solid hunkered down feel at speed on a bumpy back road like a well designed double wishbone front end, in comparison the m3 feels like it's sitting on the road surface rather than pummeling it flat like in the alfa - there is only so much bmw can do with that cheap mcpherson strut solution, and the alfa (and even jag xe) really shows it when driven back to back

the rest, exhaust noise, material quality, looks etc are all subjective imo

That looks absolutely amazing dominoz.. those gold wheels set it apart.

[domino_z]

Originally Posted by Aapparition90

That looks absolutely amazing dominoz.. those gold wheels set it apart.

It was some special Alfa aus did around time of gp to try move more cars

[damnitBobby]

Originally Posted by mcc3456

Just saying...

Not trying to bash it was just a relevant article to post in this thread. I'm actually considering the alfa as my next car. I think the the thing that does it for me most is the handling/refinement like the previous poster stated. I know all car makers have teething issues with new cars.

Does anyone have any insight on when alfa will do a facelift?

[Rambler]

Originally Posted by damnitBobby

Not trying to bash it was just a relevant article to post in this thread. I'm actually considering the alfa as my next car. I think the the thing that does it for me most is the handling/refinement like the previous poster stated. I know all car makers have teething issues with new cars.

Does anyone have any insight on when alfa will do a facelift?

I think it’s a fair point and as much as it sucks as an owner to see stupid crap like that occur in a long term update (even if some of it may have been user error), I know Alfa is really standing by these cars and responding immediately to issues that come up. They even have customer service in the Giulia forums responding to and tracking any owner problems to make sure we are being taken care of. So far, I’ve had no issues even though it’s only been a couple months. I also think they will continue to have software updates for continuous improvement as most niggles have been correctable software related items.

[Rambler]

Originally Posted by domino_z

It was some
special Alfa aus did around time of gp to try move more cars

The gold is really cool and I had no idea that was offered over there. Looks like matching mirror caps too! Was the flag under the clover also included with that package?

[mcc3456]

Originally Posted by damnitBobby

Not trying to bash it was just a relevant article to post in this thread. I'm actually considering the alfa as my next car. I think the the thing that does it for me most is the handling/refinement like the previous poster stated. I know all car makers have teething issues with new cars.

Does anyone have any insight on when alfa will do a facelift?

I don’t think there are any facelift plans until around 2022, when the GTV coupe is due, but being an Italian company, target launch dates tend to slide a bit, so I wouldn’t wait for that. The deals are extremely good right now given that Alfa got wise to front end load inventory prior to the Summer selling season, unlike 2017 when they released the Quadrifoglio while it was still cold up north.

BTW...your point about driving refinement are spot on. It seems to have a dual personality...capable of ripping around windy roads, but also extremely compliant over rough surfaces. Especially good at maintaining its composure on fast bumpy curves.

[Tflong24]

I drove a Quad last weekend. it was a 17 model so still had some quirks. Car looks incredible. the dealership has had it a long time due to where I live no one knows about them. the guy told me to drive it hard, so I did. Engine pulled very hard, sounds great, trans shifts fast and a little hard. Almost like the DCT in the hardest setting. Don't knoe if there is an adjustment for that. Overall came away very impressed. I previously owned 2015 M3, 2016 M3 Comp. Then went the GT350 route, and now have the 350R. Now I am looking to move back to something a little more usable and that the wife will travel in. the Quad has moved pretty close to the top of the list. I think there are great discounts on them and from what I have read most of the kinks have been worked out. Closest to a Ferrari I will ever get lol.

[allinon72]

Originally Posted by Tflong24

from what I have read most of the kinks have been worked out.

Dude, it's an Alfa. You need to be realistic with your service expectations, especially in an area where you say no one knows about the cars. It WILL be in the shop.

[shortseller]

Originally Posted by allinon72

Dude, it's an Alfa. You need to be realistic with your service expectations, especially in an area where you say no one knows about the cars. It WILL be in the shop.

But when it’s good...it’s real good!!

[mcc3456]

Originally Posted by Tflong24

I drove a Quad last weekend. it was a 17 model so still had some quirks. Car looks incredible. the dealership has had it a long time due to where I live no one knows about them. the guy told me to drive it hard, so I did. Engine pulled very hard, sounds great, trans shifts fast and a little hard. Almost like the DCT in the hardest setting. Don't knoe if there is an adjustment for that. Overall came away very impressed. I previously owned 2015 M3, 2016 M3 Comp. Then went the GT350 route, and now have the 350R. Now I am looking to move back to something a little more usable and that the wife will travel in. the Quad has moved pretty close to the top of the list. I think there are great discounts on them and from what I have read most of the kinks have been worked out. Closest to a Ferrari I will ever get lol.

Some red inspiration for you. The Rosso Competizione color paint just glows in the sun. Certainly gets the ol’ heart a pumping. If you end up pulling the trigger, you won’t be disappointed. Good luck!

[Captain Unknown GT4]

First laps on track in my Q wagen. Drive racemode setting as thats the only setting for track. All ESC and TC (traction controll) get off then. This track is rather mickey mouse, 3.1km with 30m height difference and its always turning. This is a very very hot day, its 30 degrees and it gets like a boiling place up here when this hot. So, not the best track for a porkey Alfa. My car is 1690kg full fuel no driver. On the same scale my M4 GTS was 1610kg full fuel no driver. So Alfa is 1770kg with me in car att track. Thats alot of pork, still car was very god balance and not understeery at all. Very good brakes, I got steel rotors. Car is 100% stock. 1.33.3 was my lap time ( racelogic v-box)
In my stock 380hp GT4 Porsche (1430kg full fuel no driver) i did 1.29.9, but not as hot then. GT4 suits this track better than porky Alfa. My stock 360hp M3 CSL (1450kg full fuel no driver) i did 1.31.9min this track.
All cars on same scale. (I am 80kg with helmet and gear)

(In GT4 and CSL i did set the times on my second time returning to this track, i guess that is a few 10:s as well. In Alfa this was my first time ever on track.)

[DS_BMW]

Originally Posted by mcc3456

I don't think there are any facelift plans until around 2022, when the GTV coupe is due, but being an Italian company, target launch dates tend to slide a bit, so I wouldn't wait for that. The deals are extremely good right now given that Alfa got wise to front end load inventory prior to the Summer selling season, unlike 2017 when they released the Quadrifoglio while it was still cold up north.

BTW...your point about driving refinement are spot on. It seems to have a dual personality...capable of ripping around windy roads, but also extremely compliant over rough surfaces. Especially good at maintaining its composure on fast bumpy curves.

So lease deals are getting better? Last time I checked they wanted like 1,400 a month. ugh

[ixse]

The new coupe version has my interest.. guess they will name it GTV. Front looks much improved as well.

[mcc3456]

Originally Posted by DS_BMW

So lease deals are getting better? Last time I checked they wanted like 1,400 a month. ugh

They are much better if you factor in the current discount levels. Some cars are discounted between $6,500-$12,500 depending on model year and dealer. Last time I applied the current discount to the online lease calculator it was about $1,150, not including local taxes, but that could fluctuate depending on current incentives and equipment levels. A perfectly equipped car is only $78k MSRP, whereas an over the top build is like $91k. Candidly, the car is a much better buy than lease, and my personal experience only confirms my decision to buy. I bought mine 18 months ago, so the price was only $2,100 off, but my car could be bought new these days for about $67k.

[Rambler]

Originally Posted by Captain Unknown GT4

First laps on track in my Q wagen. Drive racemode setting as thats the only setting for track. All ESC and TC (traction controll) get off then. This track is rather mickey mouse, 3.1km with 30m height difference and its always turning. This is a very very hot day, its 30 degrees and it gets like a boiling place up here when this hot. So, not the best track for a porkey Alfa. My car is 1690kg full fuel no driver. On the same scale my M4 GTS was 1610kg full fuel no driver. So Alfa is 1770kg with me in car att track. Thats alot of pork, still car was very god balance and not understeery at all. Very good brakes, I got steel rotors. Car is 100% stock. 1.33.3 was my lap time ( racelogic v-box)
In my stock 380hp GT4 Porsche (1430kg full fuel no driver) i did 1.29.9, but not as hot then. GT4 suits this track better than porky Alfa. My stock 360hp M3 CSL (1450kg full fuel no driver) i did 1.31.9min this track.
All cars on same scale. (I am 80kg with helmet and gear)

(In GT4 and CSL i did set the times on my second time returning to this track, i guess that is a few 10:s as well. In Alfa this was my first time ever on track.)

Hey Cap’n, thanks for posting that video. It looks like there was a fair amount of wheel chopping in areas where the rear got a little loose. Were you just being fairly aggressive? Would appreciate hearing your thoughts there in terms of tires, heat, rear traction, diff, etc.

Thanks

[Darth One]

Well, shit. $12,500 discount??!

[mcc3456]

Originally Posted by Darth One

Well, shit. $12,500 discount??!

Apparently, the 2017s are going for around that. However, with 2018s you gain Apple Carplay and Android whatever. Also, recent late 2018 deliveries now include split fold down rear seats, so obviously those would not get as significant of a discount. Said it a million times, it is the sport sedan steal of the century at these prices.

[Aapparition90]

Does the alfa front end sit lower than the m3 ?

[Captain Unknown GT4]

Hi there and Thanks.
In the youtube video description I wrote some, check it out. But I would say this car got very god front and rear grip, its odd as its 1770kg with me in car but it just rotate and grip, not at all understeery.
It was 30 degrees hot this day but car did not complain, sure this mickey mouse track 3.1km short and 30m height difference as well it seems to be always turning. Well the front left tire got bad, then again it did just the same in my Porsche GT4. As well M4 GTS fronts got worn very fast even its -2 negative all wheels when low down track set.

I will try to rotate tires/wheel left side to right to get a few more laps in to attack to lower my time. I look at my trace and I should be able to cut 1 sec.

Originally Posted by Rambler

Hey Cap’n, thanks for posting that video. It looks like there was a fair amount of wheel chopping in areas where the rear got a little loose. Were you just being fairly aggressive? Would appreciate hearing your thoughts there in terms of tires, heat, rear traction, diff, etc.

Thanks

[mcc3456]

Originally Posted by Aapparition90

Does the alfa front end sit lower than the m3 ?

Hard for me to say as my M3 had the M Performance front lip which was probably lower. I bottomed out my M3 once and the Quadrifoglio once. In 14,500 miles, that’s nothing unusual. However, I’m probably a bit more cautious with the Alfa due to the active carbon fiber front lip.