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      03-13-2014, 12:39 PM   #89
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Do you need this $500 option in order to display your album art from your iPod on the NAV screen?

When plugged in, track info and album art will display.

But if you use bluetooth streaming, you can still stream audio to the system but track info and album art wont show up on the screen. You are however able to control the music playback. (pause/next/etc) ... This is how it is for the E90 at least.
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When plugged in, track info and album art will display.

But if you use bluetooth streaming, you can still stream audio to the system but track info and album art wont show up on the screen. You are however able to control the music playback. (pause/next/etc) ... This is how it is for the E90 at least.
And for sending Nav locations to the Nav screen, would I need this feature?
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      03-13-2014, 01:55 PM   #91
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And for sending Nav locations to the Nav screen, would I need this feature?

yes you would
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NBT iDrive supports Album Art in the display via BT Audio. Track information via BT Audio has been supported since the introduction of the Combox in MY2011.

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When plugged in, track info and album art will display.

But if you use bluetooth streaming, you can still stream audio to the system but track info and album art wont show up on the screen. You are however able to control the music playback. (pause/next/etc) ... This is how it is for the E90 at least.
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      03-13-2014, 05:44 PM   #93
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And for sending Nav locations to the Nav screen, would I need this feature?
No, BMW Assist MyInfo is now standard with the NBT iDrive since MY2014; MyInfo is what is used to receive Google addresses via BMW Assist:

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Connect your drive.

MyInfo* helps you to reach your destination faster, more conveniently and safely. Search for a business location or a street address from the comfort of your home, office or internet-connected cellular phone or laptop using Google Maps™. With MyInfo, you can then transfer the results and even a personal note to your BMW with a click of your mouse.

Once inside the vehicle, the destination will appear under the BMW Assist™ menu option. You can transfer it to your BMW Navigation system (if so equipped) for immediate route guidance and can call the destination via your Bluetooth® linked phone. At the touch of a menu option, you're on your way.

You can even share MyInfo with your family, friends and colleagues and have them send destinations to you while you're on the road!
6NS is not related to this feature at all.
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      03-13-2014, 06:02 PM   #94
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No, BMW Assist MyInfo is now standard with the NBT iDrive since MY2014; MyInfo is what is used to receive Google addresses via BMW Assist:



6NS is not related to this feature at all.
Jesus christ, so this feature is BT Audio Stream and snap in adpater only?
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      03-13-2014, 06:34 PM   #95
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Jesus christ, so this feature is BT Audio Stream and snap in adpater only?
I'm leaning to believe that 6NS in the USA will be just the Smartphone Integration as the German site re-arranged the option codes recently: they eliminated the "Enhanced USB and Bluetoooth" from the 6NS and now is just plain Smartphone Integration.

The Germans also renamed BMW Online and BMW Apps as ConnectedDrive Services 7XP (6NR + 6AK). So it looks like BMW Apps and Bluetooth Audio are indeed standard in the M3/M4 and the 6NS $500 is just the hardware for the baseplate in the center console.

I think that BMWUSA is way behind on these changes and thus the confusing USA Ordering Guides.
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Jesus christ, so this feature is BT Audio Stream and snap in adpater only?
I'm leaning to believe that 6NS in the USA will be just the Smartphone Integration as the German site re-arranged the option codes recently: they eliminated the "Enhanced USB and Bluetoooth" from the 6NS and now is just plain Smartphone Integration.

The Germans also renamed BMW Online and BMW Apps as ConnectedDrive Services 7XP (6NR + 6AK). So it looks like BMW Apps and Bluetooth Audio are indeed standard in the M3/M4 and the 6NS $500 is just the hardware for the baseplate in the center console.

I think that BMWUSA is way behind on these changes and thus the confusing USA Ordering Guides.
$500 just for that? Why would anybody bother? Not questioning you, just surprised that would be it.
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My 330d had a snap in adapter and I used to use it sometimes with my earlier iPhones. But now I have a 5S in a case, I refuse to buy the adapter as it is too much trouble to take the case off the phone and slide it in.

It is far easier to just connect a USB cable, so I will not be using it in my F80; am I missing something?
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      03-14-2014, 04:17 AM   #98
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$500 just for that? Why would anybody bother? Not questioning you, just surprised that would be it.
That's what the German site is showing now, it was not when this thread started.

But again, only BMWUSA is showing $500 for 6NS in the M3/M4 when it is included with the M3/M4 Nav in Germany and with every USA BMW with Nav in the USA from MY2014-on.
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      03-14-2014, 08:16 AM   #99
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But again, only BMWUSA is showing $500 for 6NS in the M3/M4 when it is included with the M3/M4 Nav in Germany and with every USA BMW with Nav in the USA from MY2014-on.
6NS is C$600 option in Canada so is more expensive than USA even allowing for exchange rate difference. Amazing price when dealers have no idea what it even is.
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      03-14-2014, 08:52 AM   #100
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I'm a dealer and just did some research on this...

6NS will add a secondary microphone, mobile office, 2nd phone via Bluetooth, and Message Dictation (extra cost of $30.95 annually), and the Smart phone integration. Full functionality for mobile office and message dictation will depend on your phone.

Bluetooth Audio streaming will now be standard.
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      03-14-2014, 10:31 AM   #101
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Thanks Jason. Useful information. Any further details on what "mobile office" is or is it basically the other things you list?
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      03-14-2014, 11:35 AM   #102
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I'm a dealer and just did some research on this...

6NS will add a secondary microphone, mobile office, 2nd phone via Bluetooth, and Message Dictation (extra cost of $30.95 annually), and the Smart phone integration. Full functionality for mobile office and message dictation will depend on your phone.

Bluetooth Audio streaming will now be standard.
- secondary microphone is standard with the NBT Navigation
- 2 phone pairing (only one can make and receive calls, the other can only receive calls) has been supported since MY2011; full 2 phone pairing (both can make and receive calls via iDrive) is standard with NBT Navigation
- Mobile Office (emails, text, calendar) is part of the Navigation
- Message Dictation is part of Mobile office, only the subscription is required

At the end of the day, only the Smartphone Integration is left for $500. In the worst case all those features can be coded.
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- secondary microphone is standard with the NBT Navigation
- 2 phone pairing (only one can make and receive calls, the other can only receive calls) has been supported since MY2011; full 2 phone pairing (both can make and receive calls via iDrive) is standard with NBT Navigation
- Mobile Office (emails, text, calendar) is part of the Navigation
- Message Dictation is part of Mobile office, only the subscription is required

At the end of the day, only the Smartphone Integration is left for $500. In the worst case all those features can be coded.
Yes that's what I thought but when I went into PKoD, it says you have to get 6NS to get those features
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Yes that's what I thought but when I went into PKoD, it says you have to get 6NS to get those features
That would explain the increase of $500 over the $250 of before from BMW's point of view: strip BMW Office emails and texts (including text-to-speech feature) from BMW Assist, the calendar transfer from BMW Apps, remove the 2 phone pairing feature, the 2nd microphone and the baseplate hardware from the standard equipment, package it up in a new $500 combo and then sell it.

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That would explain the increase of $500 over the $250 of before from BMW's point of view: strip BMW Office emails and texts (including text-to-speech feature) from BMW Assist, the calendar transfer from BMW Apps, remove the 2 phone pairing feature, the 2nd microphone and the baseplate hardware from the standard equipment, package it up in a new $500 combo and then sell it.

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Exactly. It's happening more and more unfortunately
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Exactly. It's happening more and more unfortunately
Well, good. I don't need any of that crap.
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So, I understand that UK customers don't need to worry about a thing because they have Media package (BMW Online, Remote Services, etc) and Enhanced bluetooth as stanard. In Germany, for the time being at least, Navi Pro Connected drive is a compulsory option and also includes enhanced bluetooth & snap in adapter, as well as connected drive (BMW apps/online), so no worries there either.

Where I am, in Luxembourg, i have Navi pro as standard but no connected drive and no enhanced bluetooth/snap in, but only standard bluetooth and USB.

Now, my question is, if I want to use BMW Apps such as the M Laptimer, I understand I would have to select Connected drive (EUR 347) plus enhanced bluetooth/snap in (EUR 390), right? Or would I only need connected drive, but how does the app on the phone connect to the car? via usb or bluetooth? i doubt it somehow. The EUR 737 extra seems a bit steep only to use M Laptimer.
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I'm a dealer and just did some research on this...

6NS will add a secondary microphone, mobile office, 2nd phone via Bluetooth, and Message Dictation (extra cost of $30.95 annually), and the Smart phone integration. Full functionality for mobile office and message dictation will depend on your phone.

Bluetooth Audio streaming will now be standard.
wow. what a ripoff for this feature, I am pulling this out of my order for sure

thanks for this! I hope you are right
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March builds-on bundled BMW Apps with BMW Online, and separated the Smartphone Integration (6NS) from BMW Apps in the USA, Germany and UK. Nav option in those countries may or may not include all these options together depending on model. For example, in the USA M3/M4 BMW Apps is standard (Nav is standard), but 6NS is a $500USD option, but in the 3-Series the 6NS is included with the Nav option.

You need to double-check your country's Ordering Guide to determine what is part of the Nav and what is not. What you want to have is BMW Apps, but again, it may be included with the Nav already, as a separate option, bundled with BMW Online or still bundled with Smartphone Integration.

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So, I understand that UK customers don't need to worry about a thing because they have Media package (BMW Online, Remote Services, etc) and Enhanced bluetooth as stanard. In Germany, for the time being at least, Navi Pro Connected drive is a compulsory option and also includes enhanced bluetooth & snap in adapter, as well as connected drive (BMW apps/online), so no worries there either.

Where I am, in Luxembourg, i have Navi pro as standard but no connected drive and no enhanced bluetooth/snap in, but only standard bluetooth and USB.

Now, my question is, if I want to use BMW Apps such as the M Laptimer, I understand I would have to select Connected drive (EUR 347) plus enhanced bluetooth/snap in (EUR 390), right? Or would I only need connected drive, but how does the app on the phone connect to the car? via usb or bluetooth? i doubt it somehow. The EUR 737 extra seems a bit steep only to use M Laptimer.
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Good finds Jason and Technic.
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