CS Deals, Steals, and Three-yulls on Wheels!

paliknight · 02-09-2019, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jmg

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Any guidance would be appreciated. What do you guys think? No MSDs and in Texas.

Looking at the discount alone, that's too much compared to last month with the same lease programs. I got 16% before incentives.

Discount is too much? I'm a bit confused.

I'll see if I can push for 16% before incentives. He's at about 13% at the moment.

jmg · 02-09-2019, 06:02 PM

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Originally Posted by paliknight

Discount is too much? I'm a bit confused.

I'll see if I can push for 16% before incentives. He's at about 13% at the moment.

I mean you're paying too much because the discount is low.

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Sales manager was saying this is the best he could do. I think in person I might be able to bargain a bit more, but I don't know about much better.

Call all your local dealers and make them fight for your business.

paliknight · 02-09-2019, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by jmg

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Originally Posted by paliknight

Sales manager was saying this is the best he could do. I think in person I might be able to bargain a bit more, but I don't know about much better.

Call all your local dealers and make them fight for your business.

Yes that's what I usually do, but I don't think there's any SMB CS's left in the area. Gotta take a look and see. Thanks for the advice.

paliknight · 02-09-2019, 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Clark_Kent

This is my exact build. You can do much better. You should shoot for a sales price of low-mid $80s. A few questions:

What's the money factor on the lease?
What are you trading in? I'm assuming it's an M3/M4. What's the year, mileage, and condition of vehicle?
What is "Dealers inventory Tax 0.1900%"? Is this a legitimate state mandated fee or fluff?

MF was 0.00153 dealer just informed me.

1bmwaddict · 02-09-2019, 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by paliknight

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Seat back and relax,
$880/mo.
$2k out of pocket
12k miles a year
36 months lease

Did you do MSDs

No MSD

f80er · 02-09-2019, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by paliknight

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Originally Posted by Clark_Kent

This is my exact build. You can do much better. You should shoot for a sales price of low-mid $80s. A few questions:

What's the money factor on the lease?
What are you trading in? I'm assuming it's an M3/M4. What's the year, mileage, and condition of vehicle?
What is "Dealers inventory Tax 0.1900%"? Is this a legitimate state mandated fee or fluff?

MF was 0.00153 dealer just informed me.

Hats lower than what BMW offering .00188 ??!

Clark_Kent · 02-09-2019, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by paliknight

Sales manager was saying this is the best he could do. I think in person I might be able to bargain a bit more, but I don't know about much better.

I'll ask about the MF.
Trading in a 2018 base 6spd F80 with 10k miles and perfect condition, not even curb rash. It's a lease and they matched the payoff so I breakeven on that. Not sure about that dealer tax.

No need to negotiate in person. If they're not willing to do a better deal I would find a different dealer. You're at least $7,000 off from this being a solid deal. Also, what is your trade legitimately worth? Dealerships always play games on trade-ins. Do you think it's a coincidence what they're offering you is identical to your payoff?

Nolebimmer · 02-09-2019, 07:43 PM

Had an M2 on order... been lurking this forum for a few weeks so I decided to start calling dealers. The third one was a charm... still in disbelief I have this vehicle!!

Andrae26 · 02-09-2019, 07:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Clark_Kent

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Originally Posted by paliknight

Sales manager was saying this is the best he could do. I think in person I might be able to bargain a bit more, but I don't know about much better.

I'll ask about the MF.
Trading in a 2018 base 6spd F80 with 10k miles and perfect condition, not even curb rash. It's a lease and they matched the payoff so I breakeven on that. Not sure about that dealer tax.

No need to negotiate in person. If they're not willing to do a better deal I would find a different dealer. You're at least $7,000 off from this being a solid deal. Also, what is your trade legitimately worth? Dealerships always play games on trade-ins. Do you think it's a coincidence what they're offering you is identical to your payoff?

I agree. I went to carmax and they were giving me 58k for my 18m3zcp with 8k miles so his trade off can be higher.

Clark_Kent · 02-09-2019, 07:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrae26

I agree. I went to carmax and they were giving me 58k for my 18m3zcp with 8k miles so his trade off can be higher.

That's right. I negotiated $62k for my 18 M3 ZCP with 7,000 miles. They tried to give me $58k which was my payoff...yeah right!

1bmwaddict · 02-09-2019, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by symple84

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Seat back and relax,
$880/mo.
$2k out of pocket
12k miles a year
36 months lease

Was this 880 + tax or tax included?

Yes I jumped and swim.

1bmwaddict · 02-09-2019, 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jmg

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Originally Posted by 1bmwaddict

Seat back and relax,
$880/mo.
$2k out of pocket
12k miles a year
36 months lease

Great deal! Did you jump on it?

I jumped and swim

paliknight · 02-09-2019, 08:59 PM

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Originally Posted by 1bmwaddict

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Originally Posted by paliknight

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Originally Posted by 1bmwaddict

Seat back and relax,
$880/mo.
$2k out of pocket
12k miles a year
36 months lease

Can you PM me dealer please
Did you do MSDs

No MSD

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Originally Posted by Clark_Kent

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Originally Posted by paliknight

Sales manager was saying this is the best he could do. I think in person I might be able to bargain a bit more, but I don't know about much better.

I'll ask about the MF.
Trading in a 2018 base 6spd F80 with 10k miles and perfect condition, not even curb rash. It's a lease and they matched the payoff so I breakeven on that. Not sure about that dealer tax.

No need to negotiate in person. If they're not willing to do a better deal I would find a different dealer. You're at least $7,000 off from this being a solid deal. Also, what is your trade legitimately worth? Dealerships always play games on trade-ins. Do you think it's a coincidence what they're offering you is identical to your payoff?

KBB said it's worth between 52-55k trade in.

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Originally Posted by Andrae26

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Originally Posted by Clark_Kent

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Originally Posted by paliknight

Sales manager was saying this is the best he could do. I think in person I might be able to bargain a bit more, but I don't know about much better.

I'll ask about the MF.
Trading in a 2018 base 6spd F80 with 10k miles and perfect condition, not even curb rash. It's a lease and they matched the payoff so I breakeven on that. Not sure about that dealer tax.

No need to negotiate in person. If they're not willing to do a better deal I would find a different dealer. You're at least $7,000 off from this being a solid deal. Also, what is your trade legitimately worth? Dealerships always play games on trade-ins. Do you think it's a coincidence what they're offering you is identical to your payoff?

I agree. I went to carmax and they were giving me 58k for my 18m3zcp with 8k miles so his trade off can be higher.

My car is a base though

paliknight · 02-09-2019, 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by f80er

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Originally Posted by paliknight

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Originally Posted by Clark_Kent

This is my exact build. You can do much better. You should shoot for a sales price of low-mid $80s. A few questions:

What's the money factor on the lease?
What are you trading in? I'm assuming it's an M3/M4. What's the year, mileage, and condition of vehicle?
What is "Dealers inventory Tax 0.1900%"? Is this a legitimate state mandated fee or fluff?

MF was 0.00153 dealer just informed me.

Hats lower than what BMW offering .00188 ??!

Yeah that's what he texted me. Strange

paliknight · 02-09-2019, 09:01 PM

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Originally Posted by 1bmwaddict

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Originally Posted by paliknight

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Originally Posted by 1bmwaddict

Seat back and relax,
$880/mo.
$2k out of pocket
12k miles a year
36 months lease

Did you do MSDs

No MSD

Can you PM me dealer if you don't mind.

arciga18 · 02-11-2019, 12:58 PM

My local store with the SMB M3CS just transitioned to a one hr deal / one price (market based)/ volume model .

They want 99k selling price for 102k sticker car on the floor.

My CA was firm on having to follow the model.

Lame. Gotta start a new relationship with another store or continue shopping out of state.

paliknight · 02-11-2019, 01:49 PM

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Originally Posted by arciga18

My local store with the SMB M3CS just transitioned to a one hr deal / one price (market based)/ volume model .

They want 99k selling price for 102k sticker car on the floor.

My CA was firm on having to follow the model.

Lame. Gotta start a new relationship with another store or continue shopping out of state.

Some of the dealerships haven't yet realized what it takes to move these cars. If you look across the country, some dealerships are listing them for 10-14k off on their website.

1bmwaddict · 02-11-2019, 05:15 PM

dm

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Originally Posted by paliknight

Can you PM me dealer if you don't mind.

f80er · 02-11-2019, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by paliknight

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Originally Posted by arciga18

My local store with the SMB M3CS just transitioned to a one hr deal / one price (market based)/ volume model .

They want 99k selling price for 102k sticker car on the floor.

My CA was firm on having to follow the model.

Lame. Gotta start a new relationship with another store or continue shopping out of state.

Some of the dealerships haven't yet realized what it takes to move these cars. If you look across the country, some dealerships are listing them for 10-14k off on their website.

That's cause BMW is going flagship money to move them. Some dealers are fine sitting on them I guess.

paliknight · 02-11-2019, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by f80er

That's cause BMW is going flagship money to move them. Some dealers are fine sitting on them I guess.

Flagship money?

1bmwaddict · 02-11-2019, 06:11 PM

You cannot walk to a BMW dealership in California, Miami, West Palm Beach and expect them to give you the maximum discount.

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That's cause BMW is going flagship money to move them. Some dealers are fine sitting on them I guess.

f80er · 02-11-2019, 06:13 PM

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Originally Posted by paliknight

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That's cause BMW is going flagship money to move them. Some dealers are fine sitting on them I guess.

Flagship money?

Yeah $5k to move these CSs. Meaning they are giving dealers $5k which is part of the reason you are seeing such large advertised discounts.

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