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I have to wonder how many people on here have owned an M3 that didn't have the V8. Based on a lot of the comments that I've seen regarding sound it seems as if people never owned an NA I6 M3 which through the generations has been the more traditional motor for these cars.
Sounds good and paired with a DCT this is could shape up to be a pretty awesome car. I drove a DCT 135i and that "fart" is one of my favorite features of that combination. Maybe in a year once I see how e92 M3 prices are going, I'll get into a used one and then start considering buying an M4 once the LCI refresh happens.
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Heres the problem i think people do not understand.
Its not that a inline 6 engine sounds bad, its the fact that they put this amazing V8 into the E92. now they are going back to inline 6 engines. Its like they gave us a little taste of a more exotic style of engines (s65, S85). Sorry i do not want my car to sound like a E46 M3! its not 2002 anymore! BMW should have did a reworked S65, like how GM did a rework on the LS3 the new LS3 now its called LT1. AMG talks about doing a 4.0L turbo V8 for next engines. They are ways to make a V8 still have good MPG! Last edited by Ezio; 08-31-2013 at 06:25 PM.. |
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M5, M6, X5M, X6M not enough turbo V8 4 ya?
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08-31-2013, 08:36 PM | #94 |
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I seriously don't see how you can compare this exhaust tone to an e46. This car sounds like a 335is with the MPE.
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Not sure why people connect v8 being closer to "exotic" engine and i6 is some shitty econobox engine. If anything i6 has much more history and rarity than v8. |
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It does sound like 335/135is and Alpina B3 biturbo mixture but with something more... like more low rpm flow to it that goes higher pitch faster
Seems like a sequential/twin setup w third really small turbo or electric turbo to spool up the bigger two Not sure how the valve in the exhaust plays into it |
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The engine alone will carry a significant weight reduction over the outgoing S65. Lower weight + a smaller engine + turbochargers obviously means a quicker and more efficient car. I respectfully disagree with your opinion on a turbo V8 being a better option based on efficiency alone but what really makes me excited about the possibility of a multi-turbo M3/4 is the aftermarket tuning. It's relatively inexpensive to get an N54 to 400rwhp and if the M division goes all out on this engine as they usually do, I can't see any reason why a 500rwhp+ M3/4 would be all that hard to obtain. But, I digress. I acknowledge that you are completely entitled to your opinion, I just wanted to throw my opinions into the ring too
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I know from experience that the E90 M3 is a better car than my 335is, as I said my brother had one and I drove it all the time, the only reason I got my car instead of another M3 was because I can't afford an M3. |
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its much more than a V8 that makes it feel more exotic. its the sound,N/A, high redline etc.... a I6 can do that also! but BMW is now pumping out these turbo engines that will never see any high redlines or have the sounds that a lot of people will miss. its funny, i know there are people at BMW who would rather be making N/A, high revving engines over this turbo "efficient" engine crap. its ALL about MPG now, remember that. |
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I don't have to have a V8 sound, but I want a smooth, fine tuned, motorsports tone which is very doable. |
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Also, do any of you realize what can be done to a turbo I6 with minimal tuning? The power of a 335i can be increased a ridiculous amount with a simple, removable chip that costs very little. 100HP+ extra for $500? Do some real mods and the potential is even greater. My guess is that the HP of the new M3/M4 will be easily pushed to the 600 area without too much money invested. |
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This is the main reason why I've steered away from new bmw's, no more naturally aspirated motors in they're line up. Not to mention the cars have been becoming softer and heavier. Go drive an f10 5 series, you will see there is absolutely no bmw DNA left in that car. If they made the new m3 with a na high revving straight six, I would be the first on the order list. But im going to wait and reserve judgment until the car comes out. At least they are making the car lighter. Maybe, they'll get the engine right too, I will remain optimistic about the new m3 m4. |
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It's just a matter of when - not if....That big, new Ibranch BMW just sprung is going to make its way into M form somehow, someway and probably sooner than many would like.. The banter of 6 vs 8, rasp vs fart, Mt vs DCT??? Peanuts vs the big step-change heading our way like a locomotive
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