WTT: 18 inch 513M Rims w/ MPSS & TPMS for 19 inch 437M

[FAM3]

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Hey guys, just testing waters here to see if anyone would be interested in trading their OEM 19's 437M for my 18's 513M with MPSS & TPMS.

I euro delivered my car so I know the tires on them are PSS with the rims. They literally have a total of 1300 total miles on them and are FLAWLESS!

Car just got delivered back to me this week and decided last minute I like the look of 19's more.

Seeing if anyone locally has interest in SoCal. Feel free to PM me to discuss!

[FAM3]

Bump Wheels/tires in hand

[Kief]

I won't trade you my 437s, but if you're interested in selling your 513 take offs, I'm interested...

[FAM3]

Originally Posted by Kief

I won't trade you my 437s, but if you're interested in selling your 513 take offs, I'm interested...

All PM's replied and sorry man just looking for trade if anyone is up for it! Not looking for direct sale.

I know I may have to put some cash on top depending on tires condition of other person but thats fine. Just first trying to find someone who is willing to do this

Thank you though for your offer!

[MFNATIK]

I would think you'd have to come up with at least $1200 cash to cover the actual option cost of the 19s. And even then, I think you'd have to incentivize it even more. Sounds like a losing proposition IMO. Best to buy some 19s and sell these.

[Kief]

Originally Posted by MFNATIK

I would think you'd have to come up with at least $1200 cash to cover the actual option cost of the 19s. And even then, I think you'd have to incentivize it even more. Sounds like a losing proposition IMO. Best to buy some 19s and sell these.

But I already called dibs!

[FAM3]

Originally Posted by MFNATIK

I would think you'd have to come up with at least $1200 cash to cover the actual option cost of the 19s. And even then, I think you'd have to incentivize it even more. Sounds like a losing proposition IMO. Best to buy some 19s and sell these.

Ive already seen outright trades 18 for 19 or vice-versa happen on these forums. I am in no rush to get rid of them just wanted to lay it out there and if you read my post above yours you can see I even mentioned the option to incentivize

No outright sale I need rims to drive the dang car too haha.

[MFNATIK]

Originally Posted by FAM3

Ive already seen outright trades 18 for 19 or vice-versa happen on these forums. I am in no rush to get rid of them just wanted to lay it out there and if you read my post above yours you can see I even mentioned the option to incentivize

No outright sale I need rims to drive the dang car too haha.

Yeah, I do know of one member who wanted to trade 18s for comfort. He must have been a senior citizen hahaha. That was a rare case but hey, if you can pull it off, more power to you

[FAM3]

Originally Posted by MFNATIK

Yeah, I do know of one member who wanted to trade 18s for comfort. He must have been a senior citizen hahaha. That was a rare case but hey, if you can pull it off, more power to you

Been getting lots of offers actually for shipping, problem is I need someone local to swap since if I shipped I would have no rims in return haha.

[nachob]

Originally Posted by FAM3

Hey guys, just testing waters here to see if anyone would be interested in trading their OEM 19's 437M for my 18's 513M with MPSS & TPMS.

I euro delivered my car so I know the tires on them are PSS with the rims. They literally have a total of 98 total miles on them and are FLAWLESS!

Car just got delivered back to me this week and decided last minute I like the look of 19's more.

Seeing if anyone locally has interest in SoCal. Feel free to PM me to discuss!

Dang, it's crazy... the 18s are lighter, better looking, more performance and rarer!

I would buy these in a heartbeat if they weren't the wrong offset for 1M!

[MFNATIK]

Originally Posted by nachob

Dang, it's crazy... the 18s are lighter, better looking, more performance and rarer!

Looks are subjective so I won't go there, but if the 18's were actually 19s, I think they would have been a more popular option. I do like the style of the wheel, just don't like how "smallish" they look on the F8X. These are very big cars so 18s just don't cut it IMO. 19's fill up the space much better and keep the proportions in line with the body.

That being said, the 18s would make a great set of winter wheels.

[YolleBooM4]

I had the 19s and the ride quality was horrendous. I couldn't drive the car on sport or sport + on the road. I got rid of the 19s and got the 18 and my goodness is the ride sooooooooooo much better. I lowered my car with MS springs, and the 18s look perfect with a slight drop. On top of the better ride, better handling (in my opinion), better breaking performance that is noticeable, and the way the power is put to the ground, should be enough to have anyone trade for the 513M. 18s are better, and lighter. That 2 lbs difference in rotational mass is huge, and I could feel the difference immediately in low end torque. Plus, since there is less weigh on the wheel, the brakes have a slight bit more of a bite, and I like that. The car breaks better.

The 18s have been the best investment I have made on the car. The M4 is definitely at its best with the 513M wheels. Oh, and not to mention road noise. It's practically completely gone. Drives smoother than my moms Camry.

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The stock 18s are pretty darn light. I switched from the stock 19s to the stock 18s and my wife says that the car pulls so much harder. Even my father noticed the difference. The breaking is much better with the 18s, torque is just nuts, and the ride is definitely softer. I think the car should of came that way for all of the M4s. I can't stand 19s on the M4. Ride quality is unbearable.

I would trade again in a heart beat. 513s is the way to go.

To the guy or girl posting this ad: I hope you don't regret trading your 18s for 19s. :/

[MFNATIK]

Originally Posted by A. Bedrosian

The stock 18s are pretty darn light. I switched from the stock 19s to the stock 18s and my wife says that the car pulls so much harder. Even my father noticed the difference. The breaking is much better with the 18s, torque is just nuts, and the ride is definitely softer. I think the car should of came that way for all of the M4s. I can't stand 19s on the M4. Ride quality is unbearable.

I would trade again in a heart beat. 513s is the way to go.

To the guy or girl posting this ad: I hope you don't regret trading your 18s for 19s. :/

Thats great and all but I would hope it could be a little more scientific or measured. When talking about performance, its better to be objective than subjective. Thats why everyone wants to see dynos for mods, tunes, etc. Just saying...

[FAM3]

Well I can see we went a bit off topic but that is alright...glad everyone is getting it out of their system, haha. I do love the 18's and you are really making me consider just keeping them but will leave this thread here for now.

Still BUMP! MPSS preferred! Really trying to avoid Contis at all cost!

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Lighter wheel, better brakes. It takes less force to stop a lighter wheel. Less weight, more power and torque transfer. All common sense and basic engineering. Thicker tire, more absorption of sound; More rubber on the ground.

My wife, who knows nothing about cars, said it feel so much faster and the brakes work better. <----my wife's exact words.

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And forget conti tires. Nothing close to MPSS. The steering feel is what will kill you, and the tire weight is way more than MPSS. You're going backwards if you get the 19s.

I have a feeling you're still going to get them, though. lol

[yerffejleahcim]

Originally Posted by A. Bedrosian

And forget conti tires. Nothing close to MPSS. The steering feel is what will kill you, and the tire weight is way more than MPSS. You're going backwards if you get the 19s.

I have a feeling you're still going to get them, though. lol

For just 1 pound per wheel difference in weight, i would always go with the 19's. Looks way better on our big cars. The sidewall of the tires on the 18's are too thick as well from afar.

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Yes, now THAT's "subjective". I'm just talking straight facts. I feel the difference with that "1" lbs. fyi, it's not 1lb...it's close to 2.

We aren't talking about looks. One person could hate the 19s, and another can love them. I'm talking about the comfort of the car, and the sound of the car while it's in motion, and the breaking performance, and the torque transfer to the wheel....the performance stuff. It makes a nasty difference. A difference to the point where my buddies who have switched over say the same thing. My father who drove my car before and after noticed the same thing (without even knowing the wheels were swapped...he's 68..oldie) and even my wife who doesn't know jack about cars said that when she punched it, it drove faster.

So, this is all experience buddy....not looks.

[nachob]

Originally Posted by MFNATIK

Looks are subjective so I won't go there, but if the 18's were actually 19s, I think they would have been a more popular option. I do like the style of the wheel, just don't like how "smallish" they look on the F8X. These are very big cars so 18s just don't cut it IMO. 19's fill up the space much better and keep the proportions in line with the body.

That being said, the 18s would make a great set of winter wheels.

You are right they are subjective. I come from loving race cars and they have sidewalls so when I see the sidewall, it looks legit, like a race car. Also, you end up putting heavier wheels that ride harsh so now you "need" the dynamic suspension to soften the ride, further compromising the handling on imperfect roads where the active suspension has a tougher time making the correct decision. I like looks too but these are some seriously bitchin' forged wheels from BMW and very few people get them which makes them even cooler. It's almost as if the guys "in the know" get them and the guys that just like the big wheel look chuck them.

The bottom line is the poster has to be happy...my message to the poster is just to let him/her know....these are some seriously cool wheels and think twice before you chuck them. I would even go as far as saying, don't sell them right away. Buy the 19s and put them on for a few weeks. I almost think he might want to back to the 18s when he sees how poorly they ride and how common they are. That's all folks, just my two cents. I would love it if these were the right offset and would be perfect for the my 1M.

[nachob]

Originally Posted by MFNATIK

Thats great and all but I would hope it could be a little more scientific or measured. When talking about performance, its better to be objective than subjective. Thats why everyone wants to see dynos for mods, tunes, etc. Just saying...

Race cars have sidewalls for a reason! Think about it. If less sidewall was faster on a track every race car would be running rubber bands. Look at real race cars!. 18s are also not just more comfortable but on bad roads help get the power down. They have more sidewall to absorb impacts that would cause lower sidewall to hop. On a smooth track it's not as noticeable but on real roads the 18s are better. Car and Driver did a great test several years back on this. They took a VW Rabbit and put 13", 14",15" wheels and measured 0-60 times. They found a sweet spot where the 14" with wider patch was the best but when they got to the 15", the weight of the wheel negated the slightly wider rubber and 0-60 times went down.

My 1M does not have active suspension and it's pretty stiff. I bought a set of Pilot Supersports with the exact width as stock...245 front , 265 rear and the same thing happened. When I was on bumpy roads the damn traction control light came on less and accelerated better. This is a real issue in our turbo cars because if the tire hops and you lose traction, the TC kicks in and the party ends.

Ok so now I went on to 4 cents...sorry guys! Best wishes.

[FAM3]

Wow this topic went off track I appreciate the comments and support for 18's haha still bump and avail! Updated miles now at 300