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But going that route vs a tune, downpipes on an already factory boosted car is very different in terms of cost and complexity, especially if you are like me and do most of the work yourself.
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12-12-2013, 01:39 AM | #116 |
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Their weight differences have nothing to do with where they're built!
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Nice to see some additional specs and media.
This car is going to offer a drivers race against a Porsche 911S (latest 991 variant) at least in a straight line and at do so for at least $25k less. I've been saying that all along and it will. It will be well below 3.9s 0-60 as well. The flip side is nice (and I think that means quite a lot coming from me...) new American cars like the Mustang are really stepping up their game (various higher end and yet to be officially announced versions) and will hang with or best the M4 for about the same amount of spend less! There will be many more solid competitors as well. First world problem we have for sure... I should post some updated simulation results but they really have not changed much since this effort. That's the good, here is some of the bad. I'm disappointed that this engine appears to have much in common with the N54/N55. If it is not the exact parts it sure is the heart of the design and dimensions. Although I have not seen it confirmed nor denied yet, I strongly suspect it will also share the key bore spacing value with these older engines. Thus alas, we will not have the bespoke M engine we thought we might get with the S55. Call it what you like but this is an evolved N54 (recall that the N54 has both valvetronic, direct injection and twin turbos). The car is stated to have 50% unique components compared to a standard 4 series. That is down MASSIVELY from the 80% number quoted for the prior E92 M3. As I've stated elsewhere the cars are becoming less special and cost is driving standardization. Some other comments/observations on the OP: I'd rather know the max permissible torque value over the maximum speed, much more relevant. Tell us how much more torque capacity it has over a similar steel unit (I know, that's a pipe dream type of request). Quote:
Saves 11 lb over what exactly? The current M3 has a full aluminum front suspension (and subframe). More BMW marketing BS... Cd and Area is provided in inline document from BMW. Cd is up quite a bit from 0.31 in the E92 to 0.34 in the M4.
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12-12-2013, 02:01 AM | #118 | |
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A lot of the quoted weight savings will come from the carbon ceramic brakes (40+lbs). |
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12-12-2013, 02:06 AM | #119 |
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The new Mustang GT is going to definitely give this car a run for its money. Guaranteed the GT will have more HP in an only slightly heavier car (making at least equal power:weight).
Not only that, but the exhaust note on this car sounds like crap, if we're honest. If BMW has to pump in the noise through a mic into the cabin speakers, you can't tell me it's any good naturally. BMW hasn't done much. It's just another slight evolution of the car. Little more HP, little less weight, some new frills to look at. S550 Mustang GT will be a far larger evolution of a package at HALF the cost, and keep up with this car on the track. Mods are far cheaper than it too. |
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I have to say the M3 and M4 are fascinating car with its sporty yet refined style.
Truth watch video after the 2 cars seem incredible in every aspect, high quality, art, power and adrenalin. I believed at first the M4 Austin Yellow in color not like me now I think the opposite, the car looks great and highlight lines. It's strange because I saw 12 years ago ago for the firs time in Phoenix Yellow M3 E46 was the most amazing color I had seen in that car. I must say that the M3 at Yas Marina Blue in certain lighting conditions look good but in others it is rare. For M4 with applause Austin Yellow takes. I think all members of the forum was very necessary to see the video for a closer to reality opinion. |
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Have these been posted?
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^^Haven't seen that one yet. thanks
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Wow....I actually think the M4 looks waaaaay better than I thought it would...this will be a hard choice for me....Gt500 / M3/M4 / 205 C63 (if specs ever come out)
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Updated with new M4 videos: exterior, interior and driving footage.
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