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12-12-2013, 11:51 AM | #133 |
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I bet that before it's over the tuners will be able to get 530-550 crank out of it. I'm leaning more on the sedan at this point but who knows. It will be a game time decision as to which quarterback I will go with and I'll likely wait until they start coming off lease till I get one.
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12-12-2013, 12:24 PM | #135 | |
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Same could be said that a mustang or ctvs or c7 could also be competitor or beat the m3 for 25-30k less. Price is not a good way to compare seeing as porsche makes a premium product over bmw just as bmw makes a product with premium over ford/Chevy/caddy. I still don't believe the weight until a car mag actually weighs it with all options and tech. |
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12-12-2013, 12:35 PM | #136 | |
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I think only the Mustang will be $25-30k less. I think the regular Mustang will still be notches down to the F80, and when you get to the future specialty models like the Boss(which will likely approach $50k) and the Shelby($60k) the cost differential is largely eroded. The CTS-V will be big money as the CTS-VSport is $60k and more sized like the M5. So that will leave the ATS-V which if they are smart will start at $55-57k, undercutting the M3 by about $5-7k. A bit of conjecture on my part, but we'll see.
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You think the Ferrari F40 has Italian turbos? edit: For the sake of noobs who do not know much about turbos... When you want pizza, you go to a pizza place, when you want steak you go to a steak house. Turbos, there are only a few well established manufacturers. When you want a reliable turbo from an specific manufacturer, Mitsubishi is a great place to go. IHI=Japanese, very common on a variety of cars including the Ferrari F40 Mitsubishi=Japanese, again very common, on a variety of cars including my old Saab Viggen-a Swedish car Garret=US company, even some Nisans+ Saabs had them even some GM cars like the McLaren Pontiac Grand Prix which had a T25 There are others, such as Holset which are more common on big Diesel products. Point is, you go for the component that is specialized by a manufacturer. This stupidity about the country of origin for the turbo of your German car is not a place to have a concern about origin. Go find some German turbos for your German cars...see how that works out for you.
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These people go to car meets and get-togethers, BMW owners have a bad enough rap as it is. I can be an asshole, but at least I know where good turbo-chargers come from
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I think that sounds about right also.....given the info we have at the moment. The performance advantage of the DCT is getting smaller and smaller. A couple of things are interesting to me: First there is rumor that there will be a light weight M3 version come out and that they will use the 6 speed manual only where they used the DCT in the E92 GTS/CRT. A flip in philosophy? Second they are putting some type of paddle shift trans in the new M235 race car. That would be a game changer if they can develop a DCT that can handle racing. |
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If you read this whole thread, you would see people have said similar things and were not kidding.
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11lbs lighter than the E90/E92 M3 would be amazing. |
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