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Why would BMW enter F1 when they're only half serious at best about making sports cars?
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09-16-2021, 04:52 AM | #11843 |
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Sorry to bring back the main topic of the thread but... is anyone starting to like the M3/M4 now?
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I'm still not fond of it. My student at the last HPDE event I attended was driving a G80. While I did not drive the car, I still got to experience it on track from the passenger seat. First of, the S58 does not sound any better than the S55 but has louder pops and burbles. It pulls very solidly with impressive acceleration though. The 8AT is quite dissapointing, where you really feel the power reduction on upshifts and I find it has too many closely spaced ratios for our track. The chassis has excellent dynamics but you do feel the heft. The car had the regular seats, which simply do not offer adequate support for track driving (much less support than the F8x seats), for those than plan to head to the track, the CF buckets are a must. Overall it’s a solid performer, but I am still only lukewarm to it.
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The looks, well - it doesn't look different/better in person and it doesn't "grow on you". It is what it is whether you like it or not. Personally, nothing's ever "grown on me" visually - that concept doesn't exist for me, either I like it when I see it or I don't. And I'm not convinced the concept exists for anyone else either…maybe it's more "talking myself into it" and not "growing on me" I'm neutral on the mixed reviews it gets from enthusiasts. Tbh the things that people don't like on theG8x already existed on the F8x so it's a moot point |
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09-16-2021, 08:27 AM | #11849 |
The G8X is a disaster. 🤮
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Nope. In fact as others have said I have more issues with it than I did to start. I think I hate the top of the bumper and the hood even more than the grilles. The rear end needs chemo for that prostate issue.
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Oh, wait, this isn't the G8X forums that mods heavily look over? In that case, I still hate it
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How dare we resist the pig nose grill, the shiny black underbody trim, lack of Hoffmeister kink, fake vents, ZF Auto with 8speeds over the jerky DCT, and most of all that amazing Charger grill?! Edit: forgot the amazing Digital gauges compared to the ancient analog ones |
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yeah the design hasn't grown on me at all. i just checked the g80 photo thread thinking that 'hey maybe it'll look better lowered with wheels etc"
nope. every part of the exterior design seems like a step back from the f80.
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As these cars become more affordable enthusiasts who otherwise don't have too much money can easier get access to the car and they're usually someone who care more for the car and the scene in general with great passion and are usually very level headed people and not someone trying to show off all the time as opposed to the people who don't really care and just want to show off their moneybag with the new and shiny and does obnoxious shit while constantly talking down everyone else. Of course there are exceptions to every rule, but this is what I have found. |
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Is it just me or do these guys think they have more leverage than they do?
Cause I"ll buy a K/H or a Tesla or whatever. It's one thing to cut out the dealership and sell at MSRP - I'd be ok with that. It's another to pull a Rolex and intentionally undersupply the market as a way to raise prices ... especially at the dawn of WFH, self-driving cars, Amazon Prime, and Lyft. Maybe Porsche can get away with this, but I can't see BMW playing this game. Maaayyybe Benz for some models, but instead I think they'll just kill their brands as people switch over to the Koreans, Chinese, and Tesla.
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