No PPF, Rock chips and impact to Car Value?

[itrocks4u]

Hello,

So I have 2019 M4 CS which was a 2-year lease. I had no intentions of keeping the car after 2-years for various reasons so did not bother with PPF on the front. Now with Covid, new M3 pricing etc. I have been thinking of buying it out. However, what bothers me the most is the amount of rock chips on the front in the absence of PPF. I did ALOT of highway driving so it's sort of bad when you look at it up close.

My question:
- When re-selling this car, how much does that impact the value of the car?
- Is there any point in getting PPF done now?
- I read some threads about respraying the front to fix the rock chips, would that actually diminish the value of the car further?

Yes - I've learned my lesson to PPF in the future. Thanks!

Would appreciate some feedback.

[DocL]

It won't add up to much of a loss because of the demand right now for used cars. if you decide to keep the car, get the hood resprayed and then after it cures get the front end PPF'd. Either way the value won't go down much. If you do paint and PPF, no one will know it was painted. Well, except everyone who reads this thread in the future.

[RugbyBro]

Respray out of pocket and it'll never show up on any CarFax type reports. Just make sure it's a good color match - a bad match will absolutely devalue your car. I wouldn't worry about rock chips and such unless it's a really inordinate amount for the mileage. Honestly it may even be beneficial and help you sell the car for the price you want if it's a higher mileage example. At the end of the day we drive a fairly pedestrian car, so we aren't arguing over original paint on some limited Ferrari here

[itrocks4u]

Thanks. I would have thought respraying would be worse than leaving the factory paint as is?

[RugbyBro]

Originally Posted by itrocks4u

Thanks. I would have thought respraying would be worse than leaving the factory paint as is?

If your car has significant chips or pitting, the next owner is going to have to respray anyway. It's all dependent on the circumstances of the vehicle, for example:

A. High miles, lots of rock chips = *good quality* respray might actually help a sale. People care much more about maintenance at this mileage more than cosmetic issues.

B. Moderate miles, more chipping than can be touched up = *good quality* respray probably doesn't add or detract from value. Pay out of pocket and keep it off the CarFax.

C. Lower miles, frozen paint, special edition = Respray probably hurts this sale as a buyer looking for this car is prioritizing condition and probably not even planning on driving it so much as they are planning on saying they own it.

D. Very low miles, tons of chips and pitting = Respray definitely needed, but you have bigger problems because probably bought a BMW track car *cough cough* Beaumont.

I really have to emphasize the fact that it needs to be a GOOD respray. Poorly matched paint and poor application will result in devaluation no matter what

[Humdizzle]

yeah just respray out of pocket and it won't show up on carfax. A good body shop will get it 100% factory. so find the best one in the bay area.

now there are some ways to tell if someone is really picky -- they can get a paint depth gauge. or if they see a pristine front bumper paired with chips on the hood/fenders and high mileage thats usually a giveaway too.

some people care about this stuff some don't. if the buyer makes a fuss tell them bye. someone else who doesn't care will take the car without questions.

[White340]

What color is the car? Is it a matte finish? Those are a pita apparently to match.

[wam22]

A high quality respray won't hurt the value unless you have really low miles. I wouldn't bother applying PPF until after it is resprayed. No point in protecting what is already damaged.

Also a thought is to get it wrapped. A great paint job is going to cost $1500 if they blend the paint into the undamaged panels. Plus another $1500-$2000 for a entire front end PPF (Do the entire bumper, hood, and fenders. Don't be like me an only do the bumper). For $4000, you can get a wrap and always go back to the original paint later. Will keep the car "new" in your mind if the appearance changes.

[itrocks4u]

It's a San Marino Blue with 16500 miles. Not sure if that's considered low miles or moderate?

[RugbyBro]

I’d say that’s a low mileage vehicle, with SMB I’d absolutely go to the best shop possible if you want to respray. RJs in Pleasanton specializes in high end cars. I’ve also had a good experience with Sunwise in Concord (Dealer).

Can you post a pic to show us the chipping? With that low mileage it may not be that bad and touch up paint might be acceptable to draw attention away from chips

[icegrill]

Yes your value will be impacted by rocks

[RickFLM4]

How bad are the chips? I PPF’d mine without respray when I bought it out of the lease but only had a couple of minor chips. Ideally it is perfect when PPFd but if not that bad, I’d be inclined to get the PPF without a respray to prevent further damage, save the money of the respray and avoid the risk of paint not matching. If there are so many chips that you really see it, then a respray before PPF makes sense.

[itrocks4u]

Repsray is the same as repaint? No difference right?

[White340]

Originally Posted by RickFLM4

How bad are the chips? I PPF'd mine without respray when I bought it out of the lease but only had a couple of minor chips. Ideally it is perfect when PPFd but if not that bad, I'd be inclined to get the PPF without a respray to prevent further damage, save the money of the respray and avoid the risk of paint not matching. If there are so many chips that you really see it, then a respray before PPF makes sense.

I'm thinking of doing this as well when I buy out my lease. What did you ppf and how much did it cost you?

I have a few chips so will it look weird with ppf on top of the chips? I was going to get some dr colorchip paint to make it less noticeable.

[RickFLM4]

Originally Posted by White340

I'm thinking of doing this as well when I buy out my lease. What did you ppf and how much did it cost you?

I have a few chips so will it look weird with ppf on top of the chips? I was going to get some dr colorchip paint to make it less noticeable.

I did full front (bumper, headlights, fenders and hood) + mirrors with 10-year SunTek PPF. I think it was $1,700 and I didn’t shop around much because I wanted PPF from an authorized SunTek installer. One other installer didn’t respond and another cost more so I went with the guy that was next closest to me. The guy I used for the last 6 cars made mistakes on the last 2 so I wanted someone new.

I know where the chips are so I can see them when the car is perfectly clean. No one else would really notice and if they did would just assume it was something on the surface. I didn’t touch up at all. But I didn’t have much and they weren’t that bad. We are going to take the car back and forth to NC at least once / year now so needed the PPF to prevent real damage.

[White340]

Originally Posted by RickFLM4

I did full front (bumper, headlights, fenders and hood) + mirrors with 10-year SunTek PPF. I think it was $1,700 and I didn’t shop around much because I wanted PPF from an authorized SunTek installer. One other installer didn’t respond and another cost more so I went with the guy that was next closest to me. The guy I used for the last 6 cars made mistakes on the last 2 so I wanted someone new.

I know where the chips are so I can see them when the car is perfectly clean. No one else would really notice and if they did would just assume it was something on the surface. I didn’t touch up at all. But I didn’t have much and they weren’t that bad. We are going to take the car back and forth to NC at least once / year now so needed the PPF to prevent real damage.

Thanks. 👍🏼

[chetman7]

I would go to a certified BMW shop. Going to pay more, but they are given the specific tools to not only match color but the oem orange peal.

Just document rverything. I wouldn't mind buying a resprayed car as long as it was cosmetic like this case. If I'm spending a good deal of money on something used, I'm putting a paint meter on each panel

[HyeM3]

Originally Posted by chetman7

I would go to a certified BMW shop. Going to pay more, but they are given the specific tools to not only match color but the oem orange peal.

Just my 2¢ but never go to a shop just because they're certified. Certifications are just a piece of paper that allow shops to charge 2-3x as much as uncertified shops without providing any better of a service. Many will even provide an inferior quality paint job so be very careful. The guy my family used to go to would charge around $500-$700 for a front bumper respray and do a phenomenal job. But he just sold his business to an Audi certified shop and they just quoted my dad $2800 to respray his black non-metallic Tesla front bumper which is pretty ridiculous. They have the same workers, same paint booth, same materials and tools but the only thing that changed was the name on the building. I'd personally never go to a certified shop if I'm paying out of pocket

[pfrederi]

is the BMW touch Up paint and sealant a good option as well?? they just quoted me for a 12ml bottle $41 for both paint and sealant.

I have an Austin Metallic Yellow and have a rock Chip in my hood. Small (about 1-2cm across) but looks chipped down to the bare metal. I want to repair that and then look into getting the front end PPF. i also can keep the extra paint\sealant for any other chips that might popup. Thoiughts?

[redblaze]

I had a SMB 2019 M4 CS with 2 year lease and ended up selling to private party a couple of months ago. I would say just leave it as is. Spraying may even further lower the value because that may not be what next owner wants to have as remediation.

Have you checked with those 3rd party dealers, e.g. Carvana, Vroom for appraisal? That may help you have some baseline.

[N1rve]

Originally Posted by pfrederi@hotmail.com

is the BMW touch Up paint and sealant a good option as well?? they just quoted me for a 12ml bottle $41 for both paint and sealant.

I have an Austin Metallic Yellow and have a rock Chip in my hood. Small (about 1-2cm across) but looks chipped down to the bare metal. I want to repair that and then look into getting the front end PPF. i also can keep the extra paint\sealant for any other chips that might popup. Thoiughts?

BMW touchup paint is pretty trash. Wouldn't get it (speaking from experience). I have heard Dr Colorchip matches well.

[MR3SERIESS]

Originally Posted by RugbyBro

If your car has significant chips or pitting, the next owner is going to have to respray anyway. It's all dependent on the circumstances of the vehicle, for example:

A. High miles, lots of rock chips = *good quality* respray might actually help a sale. People care much more about maintenance at this mileage more than cosmetic issues.

B. Moderate miles, more chipping than can be touched up = *good quality* respray probably doesn't add or detract from value. Pay out of pocket and keep it off the CarFax.

C. Lower miles, frozen paint, special edition = Respray probably hurts this sale as a buyer looking for this car is prioritizing condition and probably not even planning on driving it so much as they are planning on saying they own it.

D. Very low miles, tons of chips and pitting = Respray definitely needed, but you have bigger problems because probably bought a BMW track car *cough cough* Beaumont.

I really have to emphasize the fact that it needs to be a GOOD respray. Poorly matched paint and poor application will result in devaluation no matter what

I know this is super old and different model car but I just purchased a 2020 m340i from bmw and only after I bought it I realized it’s completely covered in chips and was definitely used as a track car. It has 7k miles and I bought it for 48k. You’re the only user I’ve seen so far mention anything about buying a bmw tracked company car. Is there anything else I should be aware of? And I’m thinking of getting the chipped windshield replaced and repairing hood paint chips, do you think it’s worth it? I do love the car and would love to keep owning it. Anyways thanks!