Anyone else get banned from the G8X section for making fun of its looks?

[No Boost]

[RugbyBro]

Originally Posted by FlyingLow78

In application, I think it's fair to say the weight-saving benefits of carbon fiber were secondary to its cosmetic appeal in the G8X.

It seems like just about everything they're doing on this car is to increase its cosmetic and street appeal. Even though I (and literally everyone I know lol) think they failed cosmetically, it's clear that they believe they succeeded... or at the very least they're trying to speak the G8X's beauty & relevance into existence

[RugbyBro]

Originally Posted by No Boost

Clearly Robert is a contributor to this board... show yourself!

[MFNATIK]

I'm sure if "Klaus" wants a job at Audi he would be welcomed bc that's the kind of crap I would expect from Audi haha

edit - I also think Biermann saw this coming and he was like, nope! BMW as a company has compromised its core values and are literally trying to re-write their history over. Its like someone from a competing manufacture has infiltrated the company and is trying to destroy it from within. I think its the Audi guys!

[kyrix1st]

No one asked for more power.

They should have kept power increase to a minimum and put much more effort in weight reduction and chassis integration. AWD also has no place in motorsport inspired M3.

[R N M]

Originally Posted by No Boost

Ye agreed feel bad for Klaus.
He basically said “if you care about weight just get a manual and CF seats, otherwise its just bigger and a lot heavier instead of a little heavier. 😂” I doubt it was his idea to compare light weight manual G82 to F82 with DCT.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by kyrix1st

No one asked for more power.

They should have kept power increase to a minimum and put much more effort in weight reduction and chassis integration. AWD also has no place in motorsport inspired M3.

But brah... just wait til it runs 10s brah.. no one will care its an ugly yacht.

[R N M]

Originally Posted by MFNATIK

I'm sure if "Klaus" wants a job at Audi he would be welcomed bc that's the kind of crap I would expect from Audi haha

edit - I also think Biermann saw this coming and he was like, nope! BMW as a company has compromised its core values and are literally trying to re-write their history over. Its like someone from a competing manufacture has infiltrated the company and is trying to destroy it from within. I think its the Audi guys!

Biermann said getting rid of DCT and going with Auto Trans was the final straw. He knew at that point it was different company.

[R N M]

Originally Posted by dmk08

But brah... just wait til it runs 10s brah.. no one will care its an ugly yacht.

Forget 10s, when i get it tuned with AWD - it will be low 9s all day, maybe high 8s with launch control 🐽

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by R N M

Forget 10s, when i get it tuned with AWD - it will be low 9s all day, maybe high 8s with launch control 🐽

Just wait til I post all my public road drag race videos on IG. My internet cred gonna be sick sonnnn

[FlyingLow78]

Originally Posted by No Boost

Watching this just now, it strangely reminded me of how General Motors' marketing department handled the credit crunch and spiking fuel prices in 2007-2008. Robert said he felt bad for how Klaus was being put in front of the camera, so that now the ugly car had an association with a real person - possibly someone who would be its scapegoat.

When oil prices climbed to nearly $150 per barrel, GM was still producing ads laden with cognitive dissonance, stating things like, "The 2008 Chevy Trailblazer has 300 fuel-efficient horses." However, at the bottom of the ad in small print, you could see it was rated for an EPA-estimated 15 MPG. The company went one step further and put the faces of its marketing department in the ads, standing next to the comically inappropriate vehicles they were trying to cram down Americans' throats. One example included the largest SUV they made, and a woman no taller than 5'-2" who couldn't even see over the hood.

Despite all of the evidence to the contrary, GM was unwilling to do an about-face on its marketing and product lineup. With the long lead times to develop and produce tooling to make cars, they couldn't be expected to turn on a dime, either.

BMW is in the same boat, although their situation is less dire because the majority of the complaints focus on cosmetics. Yeah, we're unhappy about the weight increases, but if they'd just give us a car that doesn't make us every time we look at it, maybe we can learn to live with the other stuff.

So what's it going to take? How many complaints do they have to receive before they turn this around? Also, how does this compare to how Lexus, Audi, Merc, and VW handled their large grille introductions? Were their enthusiasts similarly turned off?

If BMW pressed on with the current design theme and we see a design reversal of sorts in the LCI, then it will be an admission that the new design doesn't sell. For now, we can only vote with our wallets, because social media comments don't seem to be doing the trick.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by dmk08

Just wait til I post all my public road drag race videos on IG. My internet cred gonna be sick sonnnn

I'm wondering what the "SCH" will be for the highly tuned/built S58s? I wish I paid more attention last year at a track day that included long time BMW mechanics/shop foreman that track their cars. They said that the SCH shouldn't be a problem, but they possibly messed something else up worse?!? I probably shouldn't be saying anything, but it'll be interesting to see when people get these and do their thing with them.

Also, I saw one guy on G80 talking about 9.90s all day long brah!

[fiveohwblow]

Funny, Roberts complaint is precisely what I put in the comments about Klaus yesterday.

[swagon]

Circlejerk Reddit getting on the hate train too. Lmao

[stein_325i]

Originally Posted by swagon

Circlejerk Reddit getting on the hate train too. Lmao

This is the best thing I have ever read.

This man needs to be on the forums!

[swagon]

Somehow missed the E65 v. iX video. Just watched it.

The fuck was that? Who is this marketing company they've hired? Awful stuff. Shitting on their history like I haven't seen any car company do.

[MFNATIK]

Ok, so WOW. Another FAIL for BMW marketing. They got to be following the the design dept in trying to destroy the brand as we've known it.

How can anyone watch this video and leave thinking, I want an iX? They literally insulted their loyal base and called us all old timers, refusing to "move forward". Moving ahead isn't the issue. Making ugly cars with beaver tooth grilles that are disproportionate to the overall design of the car is. And outside of the grilles, the side and rear profiles just suck. Frank Stephenson summed it up best. Looks like an appliance on wheels, not a car in motion.

Someone needs to fire the marketing team ASAP! Along with the exterior designers. Please have the door hit them on their way out.

[RugbyBro]

Originally Posted by minn19

I'm wondering what the "SCH" will be for the highly tuned/built S58s? I wish I paid more attention last year at a track day that included long time BMW mechanics/shop foreman that track their cars. They said that the SCH shouldn't be a problem, but they possibly messed something else up worse?!? I probably shouldn't be saying anything, but it'll be interesting to see when people get these and do their thing with them.

Also, I saw one guy on G80 talking about 9.90s all day long brah!

I'm sure we'll find out when guys start pushing their cars beyond factory spec and start complaining that BMW won't warranty the components that they broke.

"CaN't BeLiEvE s58 hAs ThIs DeSiGn FlAw" - Bro Bro who just fried his engine while running an E85 tune

[FlyingLow78]

Originally Posted by MFNATIK

Oh.

My.

God. They're trying to power their future by burning their past.

"I provide natural and emotional interaction with a characteristic attractive visualization."

AKA, "Look! Pretty screens just like on my phone!"

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by MFNATIK

I just don't understand why anyone would do this. Can someone help me understand this? Seems like they went 90% of the way and then faked the rest? Why? Not like any current cars are spewing soot out of our exhausts these days.

Aren't the new S6 diesel powered?

If that is the case, it explains the exhaust tips pointing downward. But it is no excuse for the fake tips. I guess they wanteed to keep the "S" quad tip heritage look, but it is compketely lame nonetheless.

[White340]

Originally Posted by MFNATIK

Ok, so WOW. Another FAIL for BMW marketing. They got to be following the the design dept in trying to destroy the brand as we've known it.

How can anyone watch this video and leave thinking, I want an iX? They literally insulted their loyal base and called us all old timers, refusing to "move forward". Moving ahead isn't the issue. Making ugly cars with beaver tooth grilles that are disproportionate to the overall design of the car is. And outside of the grilles, the side and rear profiles just suck. Frank Stephenson summed it up best. Looks like an appliance on wheels, not a car in motion.

Someone needs to fire the marketing team ASAP! Along with the exterior designers. Please have the door hit them on their way out.

That's such an insult to their customer base and their gasoline lineup. Are they forgetting they still make gas powered cars that they also need to sell?

Did they also imply their old cars are unreliable?

And what's with the bullshit stuff??

With Tesla everyone wanted a Tesla. They looked ahead of their time. With this pos, they're lucky if 10% of people like their design.

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by RugbyBro

I'm sure we'll find out when guys start pushing their cars beyond factory spec and start complaining that BMW won't warranty the components that they broke.

"CaN't BeLiEvE s58 hAs ThIs DeSiGn FlAw" - Bro Bro who just fried his engine while running an E85 tune

BMW is starting to flag cars and Ive heard the new ECUs may be harder to crack.

With that said its sad BMW seems to have become a drag car company.