F8X M3/M4 Competition Package?

[YolkyPalky]

News? Updates anyone?

[BMV///M3]

Originally Posted by YolkyPalky

News? Updates anyone?

MY 2016 is getting a Competition Pack, no dates are available as to when during the model year though. I'm anxiously awaiting this as well. My purchase timing is setting me up for a 16" so I'd hope it's released from the get go.

[gthal]

Originally Posted by BV335

MY 2016 is getting a Competition Pack, no dates are available as to when during the model year though. I'm anxiously awaiting this as well. My purchase timing is setting me up for a 16" so I'd hope it's released from the get go.

Source?

There was speculation on this but, as far as I know, nothing has been confirmed with certainty. If true, I'm excited but would like to see a source

[Zeroblade]

Originally Posted by gthal

Source?

There was speculation on this but, as far as I know, nothing has been confirmed with certainty. If true, I'm excited but would like to see a source

I think he means he'll buy it when they announce it...

[gthal]

Originally Posted by Zeroblade

I think he means he'll buy it when they announce it...

I interpreted his opening sentence where he said "MY (model year) 2016 is getting the competition package" as definitive Maybe I'm wrong

[BMV///M3]

Originally Posted by gthal

Source?

There was speculation on this but, as far as I know, nothing has been confirmed with certainty. If true, I'm excited but would like to see a source

There was a thread Jason posted a few weeks back if I'm not mistaken. I'm on my phone so I don't have the link to get the exact text used but it def mentioned the comp pack.

Found it, last paragraph, first page.

First good look at 2016 F80 M3 LCI prototypes

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1112796

[gthal]

Originally Posted by BV335

There was a thread Jason posted a few weeks back if I'm not mistaken. I'm on my phone so I don't have the link to get the exact text used but it def mentioned the comp pack.

Yeah... I'm familiar with that discussion. I don't know if anything was definitive. I think Scott26 mentioned the competition package would be announced in May but there was confusion (which he didn't clarify) as to whether it would be actually available in 2016 or 2017. Having said that, it did sound like 2016 to me... I was just hoping you had something concrete.

[BMV///M3]

Originally Posted by gthal

Yeah... I'm familiar with that discussion. I don't know if anything was definitive. I think Scott26 mentioned the competition package would be announced in May but there was confusion (which he didn't clarify) as to whether it would be actually available in 2016 or 2017. Having said that, it did sound like 2016 to me... I was just hoping you had something concrete.

Oh gotcha, looks like we have the same info, my apologies.

Though I took it as a sure thing. "Expect" is kinda concrete ya? My dealer (sales manager), who actually impressed me with his BMW knowledge is under the impression it's coming as well. We'll know soon enough.

[TheIceStormOf06]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

As I have posted many times, LCI and comp pack are not related. There are still rumours that a comp pack will be introduced in 2016, probably coinciding with the "GTS".

Doesn't it make sense that the comp package will be based on the 340i engine just as the 335i was that the foundation for the for the current car. I think the comp will be significant from a power standpoint.

Plus, did anyone notice the acceleration numbers on the LCI 340i??? 4.7/8 seconds 0-60??? That's quick. And closing the gap to the F8X Not to mention the suspension and steering rack changes. I think the comp package will be major.

[Falafel Combo]

There is almost nothing I can foresee which would make me order a competition package on the f80. Seriously. Power? It already has too much. Suspension? The existing adaptive suspension option gives you 2 excellent road options to choose from (comfort and sport) and one marginally useless for daily driving, more suited for the track (sport +). 437m wheels are already 19" and already look very aggressive. What else? Maybe slightly shorter springs and suspension? That may be the only thing I can think of right now.

What are the ZCP guys holding out for? Curious.

[SamS]

Originally Posted by Falafel Combo

There is almost nothing I can foresee which would make me order a competition package on the f80. Seriously. Power? It already has too much. Suspension? The existing adaptive suspension option gives you 2 excellent road options to choose from (comfort and sport) and one marginally useless for daily driving, more suited for the track (sport +). 437m wheels are already 19" and already look very aggressive. What else? Maybe slightly shorter springs and suspension? That may be the only thing I can think of right now.

What are the ZCP guys holding out for? Curious.

Yep. I got ZCP on my e92, but I was going to get the adaptive suspension anyways. For the E9x cars, ZCP gave you a better looking 19" wheel. Hard to see how they could improve upon the 437Ms. And they may even get worse a la F10 M5 comp pack. Or 20" option. Which I personally think is overkill.

ZCP could offer the M Perf exhaust? Easy enough to get via port install it after market, today.

[Falafel Combo]

Originally Posted by SamS

Yep. I got ZCP on my e92, but I was going to get the adaptive suspension anyways. For the E9x cars, ZCP gave you a better looking 19" wheel. Hard to see how they could improve upon the 437Ms. And they may even get worse a la F10 M5 comp pack. Or 20" option. Which I personally think is overkill.

ZCP could offer the M Perf exhaust? Easy enough to get via port install it after market, today.

I still don't get those f10 ZCP wheels.

And I really doubt they would throw in a $5k MPE on a $1-2k comp package.

[SamS]

Originally Posted by Falafel Combo

I still don't get those f10 ZCP wheels.

And I really doubt they would throw in a $5k MPE on a $1-2k comp package.

It would be more likely a Comp pack would be $5k+.

[MPNGAO_M4]

Originally Posted by Falafel Combo

There is almost nothing I can foresee which would make me order a competition package on the f80. Seriously. Power? It already has too much. Suspension? The existing adaptive suspension option gives you 2 excellent road options to choose from (comfort and sport) and one marginally useless for daily driving, more suited for the track (sport +). 437m wheels are already 19" and already look very aggressive. What else? Maybe slightly shorter springs and suspension? That may be the only thing I can think of right now.

What are the ZCP guys holding out for? Curious.

Exactly. Part of it is curiosity and the other part is having as much data as possible to make an informed decision.

[Powaup]

Originally Posted by Falafel Combo

There is almost nothing I can foresee which would make me order a competition package on the f80. Seriously. Power? It already has too much. Suspension? The existing adaptive suspension option gives you 2 excellent road options to choose from (comfort and sport) and one marginally useless for daily driving, more suited for the track (sport +). 437m wheels are already 19" and already look very aggressive. What else? Maybe slightly shorter springs and suspension? That may be the only thing I can think of right now.

What are the ZCP guys holding out for? Curious.

[BD SM3RF]

Originally Posted by Falafel Combo

There is almost nothing I can foresee which would make me order a competition package on the f80. Seriously. Power? It already has too much. Suspension? The existing adaptive suspension option gives you 2 excellent road options to choose from (comfort and sport) and one marginally useless for daily driving, more suited for the track (sport +). 437m wheels are already 19" and already look very aggressive. What else? Maybe slightly shorter springs and suspension? That may be the only thing I can think of right now.

What are the ZCP guys holding out for? Curious.

Great Question!? I guess some feel you aren't "competitive" if you don't wait for the Competition Package. No different than the "can't buy until LCI" crowd. I get it, I'm often the same way wanting the latest and greatest but I still have a MY15 F80 on order with no regrets. Just 2 Excedrin and the pain of no LED tails was gone

[19x]

Depends.

On the e46 M3, the competition package did offer some very neat features over the standard version. And I'm not talking about the wheels or brakes.

I'm talking about the vastly improved steering ratio and M sport mode. Those two alone were worth the investment IMO.

The shorter steering ratio was very noticeable and convenient both on and off the track. Same goes for the M sport mode, which would allow more "fun" while still not fully engaging the annoying DSC.

Retrofitting either option is a major PITA until this day, 10 years later. In fact, nobody has retrofitted the M mode until very recently.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by TheIceStormOf06

Doesn't it make sense that the comp package will be based on the 340i engine just as the 335i was that the foundation for the for the current car. I think the comp will be significant from a power standpoint.

Plus, did anyone notice the acceleration numbers on the LCI 340i??? 4.7/8 seconds 0-60??? That's quick. And closing the gap to the F8X Not to mention the suspension and steering rack changes. I think the comp package will be major.

I am not sure how your reply applies to my post... But anyhow:

I seriously doubt we will see a totally new engine architecture based on the N58 in the F8X, it would just be too costly. Further, if you believe that the competition pack will be offered with a diferrent engine (based on the N58) than the S55 in the base M3/4, you are dreaming in technicolour; two engine architectures concurently offered in the F8X does not really make sense.

It is possible that the comp pack will come with a power boost, but more likely from a software tune on the S55. I also believe all new F8X (not only the comp pack) will get a power boost when the M2 gets released.

Regarding 0-60mph of the 340, the M3/4 are still significantly quicker. The gap widens even more at higher speeds.

[shortseller]

^ Over boost software technology like what was found on the N54 335is is pretty likely for the F80 series is my guess. It worked pretty well in the IS version as power came on when you needed it most.

[MPNGAO_M4]

Originally Posted by shortseller

^ Over boost technology like what was found on the 335is is pretty likely for the F80 series is my guess. It worked pretty well in the IS version.

This car truly has enough power already. My thought is that it will probably get some suspension tweaks, lower ride height, probably some steering changes and new wheels( maybe a 20" option)

[shortseller]

Originally Posted by SuzukaGRY

This car truly has enough power already. My thought is that it will probably get some suspension tweaks, lower ride height, probably some steering changes and new wheels( maybe a 20" option)

Along with suspension & electric steering tweaks I'd add MDM adjustment, would be nice. Wheels, I'm with you, not critical.

[MPNGAO_M4]

Originally Posted by shortseller

Along with suspension & electric steering tweaks I'd add MDM adjustment, would be nice. Wheels, I'm with you, not critical.

Agreed, I missed the MDM tweeks