Anyone else get banned from the G8X section for making fun of its looks?

[stein_325i]

G8X insanity!

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

G8X insanity!

25% INTEREST RATE?

What in the ...?!

[therealkenc]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

G8X insanity!

And for a 12-year loan term lol. I shudder to think what their APR is for a normal 3 to 5-year loan. Also, not sure how legit this loan deal/picture is… the listed monthly financing rate is the same as the APR 😆

[Fugly M3]

Wow, that's a $300k mortgage!

[Multimodal]

I would be concerned about my compliance with customer privacy laws if I had posted that with the weak blur job on the customer name. But anyone that is willing to sell a car like this for an interest rate like that probably has questionable morals and below-average intelligence.

[NickyC]

That cannot be real.

[Peertwelve]

Originally Posted by RugbyBro

Generations on display

Gorgeous! Is this the PCA event at The Ridge?

[Multimodal]

Test drove a Carrera T with LWBS, RWS and 7MT today after a full track day with the NorCal Shelby Club. The 911.2 CT felt a lot closer to the 718 GT4 than I expected from what others have said. I’m not saying a 911 is a GT car, but they are both clearly the same manufacturer. The cockpits are similarly sized, the wheel and switchgear and PCM are similar, they both have a lot of road noise from minimal sound deadening. Honestly they drive pretty similar on the street, though I’m sure there’s a noticeable difference at race track speeds. I tried to probe the salesman on if/how a more luxury spec 991.2 S or GTS would ride differently, but he couldn’t/wouldn’t comment. (Probably trying to focus on selling the inventory he’s got.)

My wife hated the LWBS. I like the idea of them and I fit them better than the Recaros in my Shelby, but the fact that LWBS = rear seat delete kind of undermines the idea of trading the Shelby for something more practical and balanced for road use, or getting a 911 instead of a GT4.

BMW did a nice job with the carbon buckets in the current generation of M cars. They’re still carbon, still very bolstered, but way more adjustable and practical than Porsche LWBS.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by Mr. Maboomba

Test drove a Carrera T with LWBS, RWS and 7MT today after a full track day with the NorCal Shelby Club. The 911.2 CT felt a lot closer to the 718 GT4 than I expected from what others have said. I'm not saying a 911 is a GT car, but they are both clearly the same manufacturer. The cockpits are similarly sized, the wheel and switchgear and PCM are similar, they both have a lot of road noise from minimal sound deadening. Honestly they drive pretty similar on the street, though I'm sure there's a noticeable difference at race track speeds. I tried to probe the salesman on if/how a more luxury spec 991.2 S or GTS would ride differently, but he couldn't/wouldn't comment. (Probably trying to focus on selling the inventory he's got.)

My wife hated the LWBS. I like the idea of them and I fit them better than the Recaros in my Shelby, but the fact that LWBS = rear seat delete kind of undermines the idea of trading the Shelby for something more practical and balanced for road use, or getting a 911 instead of a GT4.

BMW did a nice job with the carbon buckets in the current generation of M cars. They're still carbon, still very bolstered, but way more adjustable and practical than Porsche LWBS.

I prefer BMW's LWBS over Porsche's as well, both in functionality and design. I think BMW's seat is beautiful.

[RugbyBro]

Originally Posted by Peertwelve

Gorgeous! Is this the PCA event at The Ridge?

OnGrid - definitely not going to another of their events. Not organized very well, way too many drivers in each group, driver skill taken at face value w/ seemingly no vetting, had to wait 2 hours between sessions with a 3 hour lunch break (skipped the last session because it was scheduled for after 6 ).

Turn2 only going forward, maybe CCA if they will do more than 4 sessions in a day.

[Tecnniqe]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

G8X insanity!

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by Mr. Maboomba

BMW did a nice job with the carbon buckets in the current generation of M cars. They’re still carbon, still very bolstered, but way more adjustable and practical than Porsche LWBS.

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I prefer BMW's LWBS over Porsche's as well, both in functionality and design. I think BMW's seat is beautiful.

It depends what BMW “LWBS” you refer to. Having sat in both, I find the standard fully electric “buckets” found in the M3/4 with their adjustable backrest are closer the to the Porsche 18-way sport seats and aren’t “true” LWBS. I’d say the Porsche LWBS are closer to the M4 CSL bespoke LWBS with the fixed backrest in terms of function and form.

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by Mr. Maboomba

Test drove a Carrera T with LWBS, RWS and 7MT today after a full track day with the NorCal Shelby Club. The 911.2 CT felt a lot closer to the 718 GT4 than I expected from what others have said. I’m not saying a 911 is a GT car, but they are both clearly the same manufacturer. The cockpits are similarly sized, the wheel and switchgear and PCM are similar, they both have a lot of road noise from minimal sound deadening. Honestly they drive pretty similar on the street, though I’m sure there’s a noticeable difference at race track speeds. I tried to probe the salesman on if/how a more luxury spec 991.2 S or GTS would ride differently, but he couldn’t/wouldn’t comment. (Probably trying to focus on selling the inventory he’s got.)

My wife hated the LWBS. I like the idea of them and I fit them better than the Recaros in my Shelby, but the fact that LWBS = rear seat delete kind of undermines the idea of trading the Shelby for something more practical and balanced for road use, or getting a 911 instead of a GT4.

BMW did a nice job with the carbon buckets in the current generation of M cars. They’re still carbon, still very bolstered, but way more adjustable and practical than Porsche LWBS.

Get the Carrera T with couch seats - you get your rear seat back - sounds like it would be the perfect choice

[cotmfk]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

G8X insanity!

Hilarious!

But it is not true - the guy that posted noted it was a joke. (You can also make out that the "customer" is "Ben Dover" so.....

Good joke though! It's well-done enough that a lot of people (me included) think it's real before sitting and thinking about it or trying to do some of the math (which is clearly wrong).

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

It depends what BMW "LWBS" you refer to. Having sat in both, I find the standard fully electric "buckets" found in the M3/4 with their adjustable backrest are closer the to the Porsche 18-way sport seats and aren't "true" LWBS. I'd say the Porsche LWBS are closer to the M4 CSL bespoke LWBS with the fixed backrest in terms of function and form.

The distinction has merit. I just like the overall design of the BMW buckets better.

[Darth One]

Originally Posted by stein_325i

G8X insanity!

That also appears to be a used car - "2021 BMW M3"

I remember when the gubment passed those loan disclosure regulations to make sure the cost of borrowing hits you right in the face. Crazy how it still doesn't faze some people to see that they'll be paying nearly double the price of the car

EDIT: it's a joke? I've seen it in a couple of other places too

[Darth One]

Originally Posted by Mr. Maboomba

Test drove a Carrera T with LWBS, RWS and 7MT today after a full track day with the NorCal Shelby Club. The 911.2 CT felt a lot closer to the 718 GT4 than I expected from what others have said. I’m not saying a 911 is a GT car, but they are both clearly the same manufacturer. The cockpits are similarly sized, the wheel and switchgear and PCM are similar, they both have a lot of road noise from minimal sound deadening. Honestly they drive pretty similar on the street, though I’m sure there’s a noticeable difference at race track speeds. I tried to probe the salesman on if/how a more luxury spec 991.2 S or GTS would ride differently, but he couldn’t/wouldn’t comment. (Probably trying to focus on selling the inventory he’s got.)

My wife hated the LWBS. I like the idea of them and I fit them better than the Recaros in my Shelby, but the fact that LWBS = rear seat delete kind of undermines the idea of trading the Shelby for something more practical and balanced for road use, or getting a 911 instead of a GT4.

BMW did a nice job with the carbon buckets in the current generation of M cars. They’re still carbon, still very bolstered, but way more adjustable and practical than Porsche LWBS.

How much were they asking? As I think someone already mentioned, Carrera T makes more sense priced as a close-to-base 911 (which it is)…but some sellers think it should be priced like a special limited model

[Fugly M3]

Originally Posted by Mr. Maboomba

I would be concerned about my compliance with customer privacy laws if I had posted that with the weak blur job on the customer name. But anyone that is willing to sell a car like this for an interest rate like that probably has questionable morals and below-average intelligence.

Take a closer look at it...I don't think Ben Dover will mind!

[Multimodal]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

It depends what BMW “LWBS” you refer to. Having sat in both, I find the standard fully electric “buckets” found in the M3/4 with their adjustable backrest are closer the to the Porsche 18-way sport seats and aren’t “true” LWBS. I’d say the Porsche LWBS are closer to the M4 CSL bespoke LWBS with the fixed backrest in terms of function and form.

Good point. I’m referring to the M carbon bucket seats found on the M3, M4, M5 (and maybe M8?) series/mainstream cars.

[Multimodal]

Originally Posted by Darth One

How much were they asking? As I think someone already mentioned, Carrera T makes more sense priced as a close-to-base 911 (which it is)…but some sellers think it should be priced like a special limited model

Too much… $125K ($11K over MSRP) which was about $15K more than a similar base Carrera with PDK they also had. It’s a dealership in California so the prices are $10K higher than they should be, and we live in a post-pandemic, post-inflation world so that accounts for another $20K of price inflation. But I just wanted to get a feel for the car.

https://www.porscherocklin.com/certified/Porsche/2019-Porsche-911-61b70d9b0a0e0a922464bf8c56d04cbc.htm

[McLaren720s]

Originally Posted by RugbyBro

OnGrid - definitely not going to another of their events. Not organized very well, way too many drivers in each group, driver skill taken at face value w/ seemingly no vetting, had to wait 2 hours between sessions with a 3 hour lunch break (skipped the last session because it was scheduled for after 6 ).

Turn2 only going forward, maybe CCA if they will do more than 4 sessions in a day.

Yep, my first and only time at The Ridge was with OnGrid and it was terrible.

Might go back someday with Turn2 but definitely never again with OnGrid.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by M3WC

This is what people are looking for. 2023 Range Rover P530. Most likely if a dealer has one in inventory, it is because it has an enormous markup.

I forgot to update you. I stopped by the dealership in my patrol area and inquired about the P530. They have allocations AND orders in the system (…7 seaters and V8's), but Land Rover is taking their sweet time. The dealership is looking at February deliveries and they have a meeting with Land Rover next month. The ADM is $30k; $15-20k for law enforcement.


P.S. Short wheelbase IS available NOW. They have allocations they can build today for January delivery. They are asking for a $10k deposit. So in essence, no 1-year wait lists of any kind at this SoCal Land Rover dealership.