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      01-29-2014, 04:26 PM   #23
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OK, now that the destination charges are revealed, how about the gas guzzler tax? Any news about that?
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OK. Need answers on the difference in M dynamic dampers and M adaptive suspension.

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Those two terms are probably being used interchangeably because they are essentially the same thing. I don't think anybody is referring to the adaptive suspension on a normal F30/32 3-Series. The M-Dynamic Dampers are what they call the adaptive system for the ///M cars.
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Looks like its a proactive adapting system, where as the M dynamic just has particular settings.

Does it really lower the new M3/4 10mm? I hope it does, because it will make me want the option

I don't want any additional steering options though. I hope this doesn't apply to the new M.

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Adaptive M suspension.


The optional Adaptive M suspension provides further reinforcement for the dynamic driving characteristics of the new BMW 3 Series Sedan and exploits their visual effect to the full, without comprising in any way on comfort.

In the optional Adaptive M suspension, a lowering of the chassis by ten millimetres and electronically controlled dampers result in increased agility.* During the journey, sensors continuously measure data and control the shock absorber valves in the Adaptive M suspension according to the driving situation and road profile. This takes place for each wheel individually so that optimum road holding is guaranteed at all times.

An electronic control unit processes information on wheel, lateral and longitudinal acceleration, on vehicle speed as well as on steering wheel position in order to adapt the damper parameters to the road profile and driving situation. In addition to this, the driver can individually alter the setting of the suspension to increase comfort or sporting character via the Driving Experience Control.

* No lowering for xDrive models.
http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicle...nsion.html#t=l
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      01-29-2014, 04:33 PM   #26
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Those two terms are probably being used interchangeably because they are essentially the same thing. I don't think anybody is referring to the adaptive suspension on a normal F30/32 3-Series. The M-Dynamic Dampers are what they call the adaptive system for the ///M cars.
Per my link it seems a bit different.

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Comfort Access should really be a stand alone option. This is frustrating.
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Those two terms are probably being used interchangeably because they are essentially the same thing. I don't think anybody is referring to the adaptive suspension on a normal F30/32 3-Series. The M-Dynamic Dampers are what they call the adaptive system for the ///M cars.
Right but the OP is confused because "M-Dynamic Dampers" are listed as standard but "Adaptive M Suspension" is listed as an option.

Also..I dont see anything about Heads Up Display AND.. We still dont know what "Shadowline Exterior trim" is? Is it the matte version or the shiny?

This thing just created a bunch more questions rather than answers!
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It looks like Full Leather is no longer a stand alone option and only available with the executive pkg.

I wonder what this means for the price of that pkg compared to what we saw in the military price guid
That's really unfortunate if it's true. I wanted the full leather and not most of the other stuff they throw in the exec package.
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We know you can pull out the answer Jason!

Suspension information please
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Looks like its a proactive adapting system, where as the M dynamic just has particular settings.

Does it really lower the new M3/4 10mm? I hope it does, because it will make me want the option

I don't want any additional steering options though. I hope this doesn't apply to the new M.



http://www.bmw.com/com/en/newvehicle...nsion.html#t=l
Holy crap that would be cool if it lowers the car!
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Right but the OP is confused because "M-Dynamic Dampers" are listed as standard but "Adaptive M Suspension" is listed as an option.

Also..I dont see anything about Heads Up Display AND.. We still dont know what "Shadowline Exterior trim" is? Is it the matte version or the shiny?

This thing just created a bunch more questions rather than answers!

HUD is in executive package - The OP shows that

Shadowline is the Matte trim...at least according to BMWs of past
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We know you can pull out the answer Jason!

Suspension information please
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This is critical for my order......well, as critical as a first world problem can be haha
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That's really unfortunate if it's true. I wanted the full leather and not most of the other stuff they throw in the exec package.
I noticed Extended is still a stand alone, and Full is included in the exec package.

I hope this is simply a mixup of terms, if you look at the military price guide there was similar language

Full $950 - (no charge with exec pkg)
Extended $2000 - ($1,100 with exec pkg)
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Right but the OP is confused because "M-Dynamic Dampers" are listed as standard but "Adaptive M Suspension" is listed as an option.

Also..I dont see anything about Heads Up Display AND.. We still dont know what "Shadowline Exterior trim" is? Is it the matte version or the shiny?

This thing just created a bunch more questions rather than answers!
Ahhhh, now I see, and now I'm utterly confused as well.


I am glad to see a nice list of standard equipment though. The only options that I'll spec on my car are the power rear/manual side sunshades, Enhanced USB/Smartphone, and extended leather.......the Executive Package covers everything else that I want.


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HUD is in executive package - The OP shows that

Shadowline is the Matte trim...at least according to BMWs of past
I hope that is the case.


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I noticed Extended is still a stand alone, and Full is included in the exec package.

I hope this is simply a mixup of terms, if you look at the military price guide there was similar language

Full $950 - (no charge with exec pkg)
Extended $2000 - ($1,100 with exec pkg)
I'll opt for Full, Extended, whatever.....to get the leather dash, etc. I love the look of it.
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Weren't they reporting an 8.8" nav screen before. Is 10.2" right? That seems huge. Nice to also see the shadowline exterior comes standard, along with the CF interior trim.
My thoughts as well - I don't think this is correct. I know the 5-series has the gorgeous 10.2" screen, but would think the F80 would match the F30's 8.8".
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The std features look great. Could be very happy ordering a bare bones car, actually that leaves room in the budget for individual paint
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This is critical for my order......well, as critical as a first world problem can be haha
First world problems
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Just update bmwusa already bmwna. Jeebus...this is getting old.
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good.. most likely i can get this m3 under 70k.
i always thought full leather was more coverage than extended.. but its the other way around? whats the difference ?
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The std features look great. Could be very happy ordering a bare bones car, actually that leaves room in the budget for individual paint

Yup! Im in the same boat. Bare bones with individual paint.
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The std features look great. Could be very happy ordering a bare bones car, actually that leaves room in the budget for individual paint
That's so true. BMW did good here!
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Alcantara headliner as standard? Do the cars at the shows have that? I don't think that showed up on my order.
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