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      09-11-2021, 09:17 PM   #287
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Personally I really didn't like how the "new" IS350 F sport handles, steers, and shifts; and the general consensus so far is that the IS500 isn't any better in those areas. However, we as car enthusiasts have got to know when to stop criticizing. With the way the industry is moving, we should cherish cars like this. The Savagegeese review was great. It saddened me watching the video and knowing such a lively and raucous car is going the way of the dodo.

Long live the V8, long live the internal combustion engine.
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$56k is really good to be honest, right in line with the M340i
It ultimately comes down to leasing.

At least three months ago, Lexus was offering a whopping 0% discount on the "new" IS350. BMW dealers were still offering something on G20s.
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If this were a Lexus forum, I might be right there with you. However, after sampling every luxury car over the past decade and owning many of the best...I'll let you enjoy your Lexus whenever you get one (that's what one does when one believes in the marque) and I'll stick with what I believe is the better option - BMW all day.
I never said the Lexus was the better option. Not sure why you're taking this in such a black & white manner.

I'm just looking at strengths and weaknesses objectively. I try to not have a bias. The m340i is absolutely the better car. But there's no denying that NA V8 has tons of soul that'll put a smile on anyone's face.

Think of it this way - It's kind of like manual vs. automatic. The automatic is going to be much quicker and the much better performer. But the manual offers a level of engagement and connection that the automatic can't.

It's ok to like certain things about other brands.
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