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      01-14-2022, 04:39 PM   #4973
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Lups, how is it in Finland with your neighbors to the East doing what they always do? I was stunned that both Finland and Sweden are seriously thinking about officially joining NATO. I don't think they want a return to the past (especially Finland) where they had to run everything through Moscow first. This may backfire on Putin spectacularly. He'll get Ukraine but at a huge cost. Potentially bankrupting Russia again and galvanizing the West/NATO against him.

I've said this before and I still believe it. Russia and Putin if he is around long enough will become China's bitch (used in a non gender form) . It was interesting to see them speak up in wanting to help Kazakhstan. Potentially with deploying troops there as well. This definitely caught Putin's attention. I wonder how long that "friendship" will last before the inevitable breakdown between the two.
I suggested that Finland could take back Karelia. Apparently that's not a political issue in Finland anymore though.

Thank God nobody is channeling the spirit of Neville Chamberlain in the west nowadays.

I think the US should orbit B-52s over Romania and turkey, and disrupt the supply lines of the Russians might have if they do invade. Don't attack the Russians in Russia, but I think they're fair game once they're in Ukraine. Tomahawk missiles could absolutely disrupt their supply chain.
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Omfg. Nc is a name I've evoked a ton lately.
Fuck this shit. Ukraine is in deep, apparently Europe can't handle anything these days, and we need to grow balls. I'm all in for the EU to have a joined defence, at this point I'd even vote for finland to join NATO too. I guess I'm all for fucking around and finding out then, since while I'm well aware of the strengths of the Russian military, I also know how they're funded.
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Lups, how is it in Finland with your neighbors to the East doing what they always do? I was stunned that both Finland and Sweden are seriously thinking about officially joining NATO. I don’t think they want a return to the past (especially Finland) where they had to run everything through Moscow first. This may backfire on Putin spectacularly. He’ll get Ukraine but at a huge cost. Potentially bankrupting Russia again and galvanizing the West/NATO against him.

I’ve said this before and I still believe it. Russia and Putin if he is around long enough will become China’s bitch (used in a non gender form) . It was interesting to see them speak up in wanting to help Kazakhstan. Potentially with deploying troops there as well. This definitely caught Putin’s attention. I wonder how long that “friendship” will last before the inevitable breakdown between the two.
We are fucked, Sweden has tanks in their islands, seriously.
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Lups, how is it in Finland with your neighbors to the East doing what they always do? I was stunned that both Finland and Sweden are seriously thinking about officially joining NATO. I don’t think they want a return to the past (especially Finland) where they had to run everything through Moscow first. This may backfire on Putin spectacularly. He’ll get Ukraine but at a huge cost. Potentially bankrupting Russia again and galvanizing the West/NATO against him.

I’ve said this before and I still believe it. Russia and Putin if he is around long enough will become China’s bitch (used in a non gender form) . It was interesting to see them speak up in wanting to help Kazakhstan. Potentially with deploying troops there as well. This definitely caught Putin’s attention. I wonder how long that “friendship” will last before the inevitable breakdown between the two.
We are fucked, Sweden has tanks in their islands, seriously.
But the Danes have those special subs that decapitate people and distribute them on the bottom of the Baltic (kinda Dexter like). Hard to top that.
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minn19 rofl that guy on that thread. I can't even.

Everyone is bringing up looks of the car, not performance, He immediately replies by changing the subject about performance and never mentions about the looks.

Okay lol.
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What you're seeing with these 2 G80 posters are fragile egos that need to be affirmed that what they drive is the best. They can't bear to have anyone tell them that their choice of cars is not God's greatest gift and not everyone likes them. I've given up responding; you'll never convince them and vice versa (in fact, they get defensive and insulting). The fact that they keep coming back to the thread to try to convince us affirms their immaturity and lack of personal confidence.
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What you're seeing with these 2 G80 posters are fragile egos that need to be affirmed that what they drive is the best. They can't bear to have anyone tell them that their choice of cars is not God's greatest gift and not everyone likes them. I've given up responding; you'll never convince them and vice versa (in fact, they get defensive and insulting). The fact that they keep coming back to the thread to try to convince us affirms their immaturity and lack of personal confidence.
That is exactly why I got into an argument with him in the first place.

I kept on saying looks is the problem not performance. He immediate replies by flipping the subject and never actually address what I have mentioned. Look back on those pages to see what I mean.

Then instead of saying what he has owned in the past, posts a pic of a Ferrari, which means really little. Minn asked what he has driven, not a photo proof. Like honestly, seemly so many G8x owners are like this online. It is fascinating to me.
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I saw that. You sir, have more patience than I .

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That is exactly why I got into an argument with him in the first place.

I kept on saying looks is the problem not performance. He immediate replies by flipping the subject and never actually address what I have mentioned. Look back on those pages to see what I mean.

Then instead of saying what he has owned in the past, posts a pic of a Ferrari, which means really little. Minn asked what he has driven, not a photo proof. Like honestly, seemly so many G8x owners are like this online. It is fascinating to me.
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I saw that. You sir, have more patience than I .
lol I don't think so.

I stopped really bothering after since I realized it got no where since he keeps on switching the topic subtly as thinking I didn't freaken notice.
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minn19 Do you see how much in denial the dude is? lol

Never mind the constant, subtle subject change as well as never actually replying to the original comment correctly. Then there is the denial that there are just as many if not more people out there that just dislikes the car's look and the performance doesn't "save" the car for them.

I actually just love seeing the way he replies and how he just ignore things in the post.
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I've actually added that Mamooba chap on the ignore list a few months back and am furiously looking for how I did that to apply it to this new entrant. Tired of their collective contributions; it doesn't add to the thread.

EDIT: Just found it. He's joining Mr. M and that dialogical guy on it. Done.
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I've actually added that Mamooba chap on the ignore list a few months back and am furiously looking for how I did that to apply it to this new entrant. Tired of their collective contributions; it doesn't add to the thread.

EDIT: Just found it. He's joining Mr. M and that dialogical guy on it. Done.
It may or may not do much though.

If someone quotes them, you'll see it. lol.
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Hey myzmak , wanna share your thoughts about the Borderland?
Personally I'm shocked how little Europe cares about this, while we are in the middle of an energy crisis and while we are combatting disinformation, source for both is the same. Its funny to live in a country with folks are 30% cool with it, 40% opposed to it, and 30% too busy with everything else to give a fuck.

Russia is rising, and we either pay with bodies or with energy bills if we want to fight it. Turns out, bodies is what Europe prefers.
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Hey myzmak , wanna share your thoughts about the Borderland?
Personally I'm shocked how little Europe cares about this, while we are in the middle of an energy crisis and while we are combatting disinformation, source for both is the same. Its funny to live in a country with folks are 30% cool with it, 40% opposed to it, and 30% too busy with everything else to give a fuck.

Russia is rising, and we either pay with bodies or with energy bills if we want to fight it. Turns out, bodies is what Europe prefers.
It’s always been that way with Europe, ignore/appease until it’s waaaaay too late and then boom. I still can’t believe Germany’s unbelievably idiotic decision to trust Putins Russia on gas/energy. I mean nobody saw issues there right?

The US and the rest of the west has also messed up royally by being greedy and outsourcing nearly everything to the east. Computer chips just being one but extremely large example with that.

This farce of an Olympics shows what we are up against. If you can’t even trust them to run fair games without censorship, how the hell can they (Russia/China) be trusted on anything that actually matters?
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Sounds like Russia is finally going to go today or tomorrow.
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Sounds like Russia is finally going to go today or tomorrow.
I think they (Russia) should be escorted out of the UN.

If an attack happens, I would guess about seven or 8 PM our time today or tomorrow.
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Hey. Nice to see you guys!

BTW, i support Ukraine.
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Personally I'm shocked how little Europe cares about this, while we are in the middle of an energy crisis and while we are combatting disinformation, source for both is the same. Its funny to live in a country with folks are 30% cool with it, 40% opposed to it, and 30% too busy with everything else to give a fuck.

Russia is rising, and we either pay with bodies or with energy bills if we want to fight it. Turns out, bodies is what Europe prefers.
My thoughts are probably too profane, even for this thread.

Frankly, it's sadness, really. I mean, I'm a Canadian, never even managed to make it back to the homeland BUT for the first 17 or so years of my life the Ukrainian background was central to defining me. As I got older, of course, it was just one part of me (job, wife, kids all become more dominant in a 4th gen canadian), but it is still important and a part of my core/identity that is always there.

For 15 of those years, Ukraine was not even independent. It had only had snippets of independence in its history, but that doesn't mean (contrary to what the little fuck in Moscow said yesterday) Ukrainians aren't a nation. My great grandparents came to Canada well before the Russian revolution and THEY knew they were Ukrainian (and emphatically NOT Russian even back then) and it was always this distant dream that the homeland would one day be free. Didn't seem likely, but it was the dram. But then - BLAM - Ukraine became an independent country. Suddenly, there was a real place my folks were FROM. Not just an idea, not just some 'region' but an actual country of people with names like mine and with some common history. Sure, it struggled with many growing pains - corruption etc, - but after 400 years of Russian dominance, how could that not be expected? The people had never before got to steer their own ship. AND, as I'm sure I said on the original SSOTT thread, democracy is HARD WORK. We all take it for granted, but democracy isn't just about having a vote and choice and power, it is about the responsibility that comes with power. In the west, right now, we are having a tough time with that. But Ukraine has learned that lesson well in the last decade. It was growing past those early pains…..

And to think of all the foreign misadventures of the west in countries that don't want us and resent our 'help' - and here is a country begging for our help to keep those hard won lessons and gains.

….and I can't help but think we will fail it, fail them. Today's rounds of sanctions were nice (fucking HELLO Germany, you THINK NS2 was a bad idea???) but I think Putin's chauvinism,his imperialism and his ignorance run too deep for anything to stop him. He is going to start a war - a real fucking war, the likes of which relatively few people alive right now in the west have ever seen - and literally thousands of Ukrainians will die. And the country will be blown to shit. And the place that i was so happy that became a country on its own 30 years ago won't be anymore.

I wish the west had real balls. I wished in 2014 that we would put a few of our soldiers in Donbas and Crimea and tell putin "no, stop". That would have stopped him then. Putting some of our soldiers there now would stop him. He will take war with a weaker country, but he wont directly go to war with NATO. Our soldiers can be the shield that protects Ukraine from the hell that is coming.

But we won't. And a country I was pretty happy existed just won't anymore, not really, not until that little c*nt is dead and all those who enable him are gone.

Lups I hope Finland learns the lesson and joins NATO. Its clear being friendly with the west is not enough to stop this madman. You need the actual power of the alliance.

Its funny; his rant yesterday (just before he formally started the invasion with the 'recognition' of his two stooge republics) seemed to shock many in the west with his angry, hateful attack on Ukraine or any part of the old Russian empire that dared say "we aren't Russian". I don't think a single fucking Ukrainian was surprised in the least. We have always known that part of Russia. I'll bet Finland knows it just as well. Maybe you weren't subject to Russian imperialism as long (and fuck knows your language is harder to just erase with a policy of Russification, unlike Ukrainian which has too many commonalities) but you know how they think, how they take….colonialism has died in many of its traditional homes (fuck, UK can barely rule itself, let alone 1/2 the world) but it is still alive and well in the Russian psyche.

Anyway, I'm really gonna start ranting now so I'll stop. As I said, most of what I think is incoherent, expletive-laden rage, but also sadness.

(And thanks everyone for not asking me about the fucking truckers. Fuck, amazing how a few hundred idiots have managed to paint a picture of this country…like jesus fucking christ…..)
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Frankly, it's sadness, really. I mean, I'm a Canadian, never even managed to make it back to the homeland BUT for the first 17 or so years of my life the Ukrainian background was central to defining me. As I got older, of course, it was just one part of me (job, wife, kids all become more dominant in a 4th gen canadian), but it is still important and a part of my core/identity that is always there.

For 15 of those years, Ukraine was not even independent. It had only had snippets of independence in its history, but that doesn't mean (contrary to what the little fuck in Moscow said yesterday) Ukrainians aren't a nation. My great grandparents came to Canada well before the Russian revolution and THEY knew they were Ukrainian (and emphatically NOT Russian even back then) and it was always this distant dream that the homeland would one day be free. Didn't seem likely, but it was the dram. But then - BLAM - Ukraine became an independent country. Suddenly, there was a real place my folks were FROM. Not just an idea, not just some 'region' but an actual country of people with names like mine and with some common history. Sure, it struggled with many growing pains - corruption etc, - but after 400 years of Russian dominance, how could that not be expected? The people had never before got to steer their own ship. AND, as I'm sure I said on the original SSOTT thread, democracy is HARD WORK. We all take it for granted, but democracy isn't just about having a vote and choice and power, it is about the responsibility that comes with power. In the west, right now, we are having a tough time with that. But Ukraine has learned that lesson well in the last decade. It was growing past those early pains…..

And to think of all the foreign misadventures of the west in countries that don't want us and resent our 'help' - and here is a country begging for our help to keep those hard won lessons and gains.

….and I can't help but think we will fail it, fail them. Today's rounds of sanctions were nice (fucking HELLO Germany, you THINK NS2 was a bad idea???) but I think Putin's chauvinism,his imperialism and his ignorance run too deep for anything to stop him. He is going to start a war - a real fucking war, the likes of which relatively few people alive right now in the west have ever seen - and literally thousands of Ukrainians will die. And the country will be blown to shit. And the place that i was so happy that became a country on its own 30 years ago won't be anymore.

I wish the west had real balls. I wished in 2014 that we would put a few of our soldiers in Donbas and Crimea and tell putin "no, stop". That would have stopped him then. Putting some of our soldiers there now would stop him. He will take war with a weaker country, but he wont directly go to war with NATO. Our soldiers can be the shield that protects Ukraine from the hell that is coming.

But we won't. And a country I was pretty happy existed just won't anymore, not really, not until that little c*nt is dead and all those who enable him are gone.

Lups I hope Finland learns the lesson and joins NATO. Its clear being friendly with the west is not enough to stop this madman. You need the actual power of the alliance.

Its funny; his rant yesterday (just before he formally started the invasion with the 'recognition' of his two stooge republics) seemed to shock many in the west with his angry, hateful attack on Ukraine or any part of the old Russian empire that dared say "we aren't Russian". I don't think a single fucking Ukrainian was surprised in the least. We have always known that part of Russia. I'll bet Finland knows it just as well. Maybe you weren't subject to Russian imperialism as long (and fuck knows your language is harder to just erase with a policy of Russification, unlike Ukrainian which has too many commonalities) but you know how they think, how they take….colonialism has died in many of its traditional homes (fuck, UK can barely rule itself, let alone 1/2 the world) but it is still alive and well in the Russian psyche.

Anyway, I'm really gonna start ranting now so I'll stop. As I said, most of what I think is incoherent, expletive-laden rage, but also sadness.

(And thanks everyone for not asking me about the fucking truckers. Fuck, amazing how a few hundred idiots have managed to paint a picture of this country…like jesus fucking christ…..)
Agreed and very well worded. Why can we never learn from the past? Move NATO troops in there now and stop this and whatever inevitably is coming after this. Most of the Western politicians are afraid of short term public opinion/elections over doing what they know in their gut is the right move.
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