Coby Wheel
BMW Garage BMW Meets Register Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read

Go Back   BMW M3 and BMW M4 Forum > BMW F80 M3 / F82 M4 Forum > Regional Forums > CANADA

Post Reply
 
Thread Tools Search this Thread
      08-11-2016, 06:22 PM   #67
swntr
Banned
24
Rep
54
Posts

Drives: F80 M3
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Vancouver

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doublej View Post
I recently had a flat tire but noticed the flat before the TPMS did. I was in town I made a right hander at a light and the back end felt a little weird and a few blocks down I knew the tire was going flat but the TPMS wasn't reporting anything.

I pulled over and sure enough it was almost flat and just as I stopped the warning came on. I pumped it up with the sealant and dropped it off at the dealer for repair.

I asked why the TPMS didn't detect it until I stopped and apparently it takes a while to detect and it detects based on rotational speed differential of the wheels, not the pressure.

Some of you get false warnings and I didn't get any warning. Seems like a robust system.

JJ
That is FTM not TPMS, TPMS will tell your directly what pressure is. i have already upgraded to TPMS, check my post
Appreciate 0
      08-11-2016, 06:23 PM   #68
swntr
Banned
24
Rep
54
Posts

Drives: F80 M3
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Vancouver

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by aboulfad View Post
Wow, that's worse! Good thing you caught it. They should do away with this stupid system and install sensors just like in the US...
IT can be upgraded, if you in Vancouver i can do coding for you for free
Appreciate 0
      08-11-2016, 06:25 PM   #69
swntr
Banned
24
Rep
54
Posts

Drives: F80 M3
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Vancouver

iTrader: (0)

Came with FTM


Upgraded to TPMS myself
Appreciate 1
aboulfad1592.50
      08-11-2016, 06:27 PM   #70
aboulfad
Brigadier General
aboulfad's Avatar
Canada
1593
Rep
3,945
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4 MG/SO
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL, QC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW M4  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by swntr
IT can be upgraded, if you in Vancouver i can do coding for you for free
Thanks, i am very far from you and know how to code it ! But not interested in that system neither (expensive sensors and need two sets), if BMW can't figure it out I may disable RPA all together!
Appreciate 0
      08-11-2016, 06:32 PM   #71
swntr
Banned
24
Rep
54
Posts

Drives: F80 M3
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Vancouver

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by aboulfad View Post
Thanks, i am very far from you and know how to code it ! But not interested in that system neither (expensive sensors and need two sets), if BMW can't figure it out I may disable RPA all together!
Sensor is cheap, only 150 USD per set you can get it on EBAY
Appreciate 0
      08-11-2016, 07:01 PM   #72
aboulfad
Brigadier General
aboulfad's Avatar
Canada
1593
Rep
3,945
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4 MG/SO
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL, QC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW M4  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by swntr View Post
Sensor is cheap, only 150 USD per set you can get it on EBAY
cheap is a relative term ;-) I may consider it for the next summer tire set. BTW, in your post the item number 6855539 on the eBay page shows not compatible with the M4, but upon further search, ETK shows part nb 36106856209, which if you look up the picture has the same markings as the one from eBay.

When I looked into it some time ago, I read that the RDC is integrated in the DSC unit and there is no need for additional hardware but wasnt sure.

For those who are curious, Option 2VB yields the following CAFD changes:
Quote:
<<< CAFD_00000794.caf.015_046_011 (FEM_01) >>>
FEM_01 > RemoteControl 30D0 > RC_RDC_ENABLE = aktiv

<<< CAFD_0000067B.caf.002_013_011 (ICMQL) >>>
ICMQL > Daten 3000 > IcmKod_B_S2VBA = verbaut

<<< CAFD_00001A33.caf.001_003_003 (DSC_CT02M) >>>
DSC_CT02M > DSC_CODIERDATEN_ALLGEMEIN 3000 > C_Funktion_RDCi_l = aktiv
DSC_CT02M > DSC_CODIERDATEN_ALLGEMEIN 3000 > C_Funktion_RPA_e = nicht_aktiv
DSC_CT02M > DSC_CODIERDATEN_RPA_CONTI 3002 > C_RPA_Extra = nicht_aktiv

<<< CAFD_00000DED.caf.003_015_014 (HU_NBT) >>>
HU_NBT > EXBOX 3001 > RDC = aktiv
HU_NBT > EXBOX 3001 > RDC_DRUCK_TEMP = nicht_aktiv [Default]
HU_NBT > EXBOX 3001 > RDC_FORTSCHRITTSANZEIGE = nicht_aktiv [Default]
HU_NBT > EXBOX 3001 > REIFENUEBERWACHUNG_RDC_RPA = rdc
HU_NBT > EXBOX 3001 > RPA = nicht_aktiv

<<< CAFD_000009C8.caf.006_003_026 (KOMBI L7_MID) >>>
KOMBI L7_MID > ERM_Konfiguration 3004 > ST_TYR_RDC_ALIVE = aktiv
KOMBI L7_MID > ERM_Konfiguration 3004 > ST_TYR_RDC_TIMEOUT = aktiv
KOMBI L7_MID > FZG_Ausstattung 3003 > DSC_MIT_RPA = ohne_RPA [Default]
Appreciate 0
      08-11-2016, 07:07 PM   #73
swntr
Banned
24
Rep
54
Posts

Drives: F80 M3
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Vancouver

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by aboulfad View Post
cheap is a relative term ;-) I may consider it for the next summer tire set. BTW, in your post the item number 6855539on the eBay page shows not compatible with the M4, but upon further search, ETK shows part nb 36106856209, which if you look up the picture has the same markings as the one from eBay.

When I looked into it some time ago, I read that the RDC is integrated in the DSC unit and there is no need for additional hardware but wasnt sure.

For those who are curious, Option 2VB yields the following CAFD changes:
WOW, you are good, how did you get the those changes from CAFD? CAFD editor?
Im sure that 6855539 will work on your M4, it will work on 234,x5,x6

Receiver is intergrated in DSC for car built after 2014/04.

150 USD i think is totally worth it.

FTM sucks, i have heard numerous people say it failed to notify when tire is already flat.
Appreciate 0
      08-11-2016, 07:13 PM   #74
aboulfad
Brigadier General
aboulfad's Avatar
Canada
1593
Rep
3,945
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4 MG/SO
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL, QC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW M4  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by swntr View Post
WOW, you are good, how did you get the those changes from CAFD? CAFD editor?
Im sure that 6855539 will work on your M4, it will work on 234,x5,x6

Receiver is intergrated in DSC for car built after 2014/04.

150 USD i think is totally worth it.

FTM sucks, i have heard numerous people say it failed to notify when tire is already flat.
hahaha, thanks I am not that good, you just need the right tools: NCD/CAFD Tool by TM, then you use the "What-If SVT-CAFD" option to show the affected functions for a given car option, all thanks to TM! If it wasnt for the trouble of un-mounting the tires from the wheels to install them, I'd go ahead with it.

And you're right, its worth the money, because for people that track their F8x, the temperature reading is equally important too. BTW, did you ever compare the pressure readout with an external good gauge ?
Appreciate 0
      08-11-2016, 07:20 PM   #75
swntr
Banned
24
Rep
54
Posts

Drives: F80 M3
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Vancouver

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by aboulfad View Post
hahaha, thanks I am not that good, you just need the right tools: NCD/CAFD Tool by TM, then you use the "What-If SVT-CAFD" option to show the affected functions for a given car option, all thanks to TM! If it wasnt for the trouble of un-mounting the tires from the wheels to install them, I'd go ahead with it.

And you're right, its worth the money, because for people that track their F8x, the temperature reading is equally important too. BTW, did you ever compare the pressure readout with an external good gauge ?

Yeah , i have that too, but my token expired and TM gone missing.
I did mounting in costco, 15 each tire, if you were changing tires there, its gonna be for free.

I didnt test the accuracy of the readings, but they looked okay, readings are very similar.
Appreciate 0
      08-11-2016, 07:28 PM   #76
aboulfad
Brigadier General
aboulfad's Avatar
Canada
1593
Rep
3,945
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4 MG/SO
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL, QC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW M4  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by swntr View Post
Yeah , i have that too, but my token expired and TM gone missing.
OT, FYI, the NCD/CAFD Tool is not Esys, and does not require any token or stuff for activation.
Appreciate 0
      08-15-2016, 12:56 PM   #77
01ON19
Lieutenant
01ON19's Avatar
Canada
168
Rep
507
Posts

Drives: 2021 M2C
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Toronto

iTrader: (0)

This is great info. I actually bought the sensors to use with my Canadian car, but returned them when dealer said they would not work. I really have to figure how to code!
Appreciate 0
      08-15-2016, 03:01 PM   #78
aboulfad
Brigadier General
aboulfad's Avatar
Canada
1593
Rep
3,945
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4 MG/SO
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL, QC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW M4  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanuck View Post
This is great info. I actually bought the sensors to use with my Canadian car, but returned them when dealer said they would not work. I really have to figure how to code!
I can gladly help in the future, but there's one detail that I am unsure about, wether the sensors themselves need to be programmed or not, maybe swntr knows?
Appreciate 0
      08-15-2016, 03:32 PM   #79
aboulfad
Brigadier General
aboulfad's Avatar
Canada
1593
Rep
3,945
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4 MG/SO
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL, QC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW M4  [10.00]
Ok one year later, we have small movement on this issue, one more visit to the dealer and with the PUMA case, BMW may ask to replace the DSC module... stealth70mde , my SA said if BMW proceeds this way, they'll change it for you too as I mentioned I had a friend with similar symptoms. And apparently when the alarm is yellow and all four tires are identified, it means a fault with the system!!!
Attached Images
 
Appreciate 0
      08-15-2016, 03:34 PM   #80
stealth70mde
Captain
stealth70mde's Avatar
Canada
376
Rep
600
Posts

Drives: 2019 M5C
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Eastern Canada

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by aboulfad View Post
Ok one year later, we have small movement on this issue, one more visit to the dealer and with the PUMA case, BMW may ask to replace the DSC module... stealth70mde , my SA said if BMW proceeds this way, they'll change it for you too as I mentioned I had a friend with similar symptoms.
That would be cool assuming that changing the module actually fixes the issue because it's really annoying and kinda freaks me out every time thinking that this time it might be for real...
Appreciate 0
      08-15-2016, 03:37 PM   #81
aboulfad
Brigadier General
aboulfad's Avatar
Canada
1593
Rep
3,945
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4 MG/SO
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL, QC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW M4  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by stealth70mde View Post
That would be cool assuming that changing the module actually fixes the issue because it's really annoying and kinda freaks me out every time thinking that this time it might be for real...
Apart from the DSC module, there's the sensors and the cables! I can be the Guinea pig and report once the work is done. But now I know that if we don't get an arrow pointing to the tire, and if all are yellow, then it's a system fault but the stupid message doesn't say that!
Appreciate 0
      08-15-2016, 05:17 PM   #82
swntr
Banned
24
Rep
54
Posts

Drives: F80 M3
Join Date: Jul 2016
Location: Vancouver

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by aboulfad View Post
I can gladly help in the future, but there's one detail that I am unsure about, wether the sensors themselves need to be programmed or not, maybe swntr knows?
sensor dont need to be programed, just add VO and code modules, it will be functional.
Appreciate 1
aboulfad1592.50
      08-16-2016, 04:19 PM   #83
01ON19
Lieutenant
01ON19's Avatar
Canada
168
Rep
507
Posts

Drives: 2021 M2C
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Toronto

iTrader: (0)

Quote:
Originally Posted by aboulfad View Post
Apart from the DSC module, there's the sensors and the cables! I can be the Guinea pig and report once the work is done. But now I know that if we don't get an arrow pointing to the tire, and if all are yellow, then it's a system fault but the stupid message doesn't say that!
I've had this a few times and I think (but am not positive) that it has always been yellow and all 4 tires shown. I didn't know it could even identify which tire was flat.
Appreciate 0
      08-16-2016, 04:28 PM   #84
aboulfad
Brigadier General
aboulfad's Avatar
Canada
1593
Rep
3,945
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4 MG/SO
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL, QC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW M4  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by Kanuck View Post
I've had this a few times and I think (but am not positive) that it has always been yellow and all 4 tires shown. I didn't know it could even identify which tire was flat.
That's what the technician and SA said, apparently an arrow should point to the tire in question but the manual doesn't say so Today we did a road test with their scanner as I was driving, they will send more data to BMW, and hopefully they decide to change something!

According to the SA, this is a new PUMA case in the database and no other reported similar issues. They also asked zillion questions...
Appreciate 0
      08-17-2016, 05:55 PM   #85
aboulfad
Brigadier General
aboulfad's Avatar
Canada
1593
Rep
3,945
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4 MG/SO
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL, QC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW M4  [10.00]
Ok, finally BMW decided to replace the DSC unit for my PUMA case, not sure if the control unit and the hydraulics or just the former. Parts to arrive in few weeks.
Appreciate 0
      08-30-2016, 04:45 PM   #86
aboulfad
Brigadier General
aboulfad's Avatar
Canada
1593
Rep
3,945
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4 MG/SO
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL, QC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW M4  [10.00]
Ok had the work done today to replace both the DSC control and hydraulic unit under warranty, one year later and 9 total false FTM alarms... I somewhat still think it's the software or the wheel speed sensors so we shall see. The work was carried out flawlessly. But the brake pedal feels a bit softer... they bleed the brake system after the work.

As usual, they had to update the car's software and for some weird reason they reflash all the darn modules even if there was no update for most of them. So third time i have to recode my configuration changes and this time I think I am going to script it ...

If any of you have this issue, there is now a PUMA case for this.
Appreciate 0
      08-30-2016, 04:52 PM   #87
2kaccordocoupe
Brigadier General
2kaccordocoupe's Avatar
Canada
1270
Rep
4,703
Posts

Drives: Former ///M Driver
Join Date: Nov 2008
Location: The 6ix

iTrader: (2)

Hopefully it fixes the issue. You may want to hold off on the coding for a bit just to rule it out. It's probably not related however it makes sense to let the dealer fix soak for a bit before adding any additional variables into the mix.
Appreciate 0
      08-30-2016, 04:55 PM   #88
aboulfad
Brigadier General
aboulfad's Avatar
Canada
1593
Rep
3,945
Posts

Drives: 2015 M4 MG/SO
Join Date: Mar 2014
Location: MTL, QC

iTrader: (0)

Garage List
2015 BMW M4  [10.00]
Quote:
Originally Posted by 2kaccordocoupe View Post
Hopefully it fixes the issue. You may want to hold off on the coding for a bit just to rule it out. It's probably not related however it makes sense to let the dealer fix soak for a bit before adding any additional variables into the mix.
The only coding I always suspected was EuroMDM but other members that dont have it get that alarm. Even my GTS DCT flash is gone, so i'll redo all of it one day...
Appreciate 0
Post Reply

Bookmarks

Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:31 AM.




f80post
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
1Addicts.com, BIMMERPOST.com, E90Post.com, F30Post.com, M3Post.com, ZPost.com, 5Post.com, 6Post.com, 7Post.com, XBimmers.com logo and trademark are properties of BIMMERPOST