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      09-20-2021, 03:16 PM   #1
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Stock f82 barely faster then 2021 M340i

After grabbing breakfast in Mexico, a friend and I decided to have a little drag race on the way to our other buddy’s house.

Me: 2015 F82 M4 with 62k miles
friend: 2021 M340i 4K miles


We rolled up side by side and gave each other the shit eating grin. I honked 3 times and we were off. My friend got the jump. 30-90 was close with the f82 slowly inching forward. 90-110 the f82 began to pull away hard. Just thought I would share. The 340 was quick, but it is 6 years newer and zf-8 speed seems to perform well.
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      09-20-2021, 03:41 PM   #2
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I don't think this will be news to anyone - stock for stock F8X will slay M340i in corners and high speed rolls. M340i is a fast street car though, I'm of the opinion that many who think they want a M3 really actually want a M340i. Fantastic street machine
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They’re actually a pretty good deal too right now, can be had for around $60k I think.
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Did you race from a dig or a roll?

I beat a 2020 m340 that has a jb4, although it was super close, From a 40 roll, I'm bone stock DCT

TC needs to be fully off & driver skill matters in terms of reaction time, shift point etc . There's no shot you can't gap a stock m340 before 90mph, I've ran a bunch of them and my friends with f82's have as well. From a stand still though, the m340's are superior but any roll initiated after 30 mph if done correctly you should be gapping him or at least he should see your tail lights by 90
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They’re actually a pretty good deal too right now, can be had for around $60k I think.
I've seen some decent deals on new ones but I'd stay away from used... pushing in on new car prices and nothing depreciates faster than a regular BMW in normal times
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      09-21-2021, 03:41 AM   #6
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The top of the range 3 series is generally about as fast, sometimes faster in a straight line than the previous generation's M. Same if you compare say the E90 335i against the E46 M3.

They won't hold up so well on track though, beyond 1 lap at least
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      09-21-2021, 05:22 AM   #7
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Absolutely right.
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      09-21-2021, 05:50 PM   #8
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Oh boy….

Here we go again…
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      09-21-2021, 07:26 PM   #9
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Oh boy….

Here we go again…

I started my love for Mcars back in mid 80s, starting with an E30 M3 and then another one, two M5s and then I back after a few years with a M4. I don't remember anyone claiming a 325Is was an alternative to an E30 M3. You could not pose one for an M3. But, now I see many claim an M340 or else is an alternative. But are they not just posing - you cannot guild a lilly, so all the other 3 or 4 series that are not M cars are just 3 and 4 series - nice, albeit, bland!
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Oh boy….

Here we go again…

I started my love for Mcars back in mid 80s, starting with an E30 M3 and then another one, two M5s and then I back after a few years with a M4. I don't remember anyone claiming a 325Is was an alternative to an E30 M3. You could not pose one for an M3. But, now I see many claim an M340 or else is an alternative. But are they not just posing - you cannot guild a lilly, so all the other 3 or 4 series that are not M cars are just 3 and 4 series - nice, albeit, bland!
I'm all about ///M dominance but the idea that the E30 M3 was the end-all-be-all compared to the normal 3-Series is not accurate. See below for the "receipts" :

Start at 3:02…



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As you can see in the article below from 1987, they are doing exactly what we do on this forum all the time in comparing M3 vs. Sporty 3-Series vs. 4WD. So this type of comparison was definitely a thing. Check it out for yourself. Fun read actually:
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      09-22-2021, 01:42 AM   #11
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The only thing the M340 has over the M is AWD and an auto tranny. You can be a total donkey and rape M3s at lights by simply mashing the gas pedal, zero skill required, that's why a bunch of people like them.
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This is a horrible thread to start! If you are comparing a M4 to a 340 with M package then maybe you need to go buy another brand. There should be a ///M IQ test before purchasing a real M car!
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This is a horrible thread to start! If you are comparing a M4 to a 340 with M package then maybe you need to go buy another brand. There should be a ///M IQ test before purchasing a real M car!
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      09-22-2021, 10:01 AM   #14
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What always cracks me up about these posts is that (aside from the obvious "your results may vary" of any given situation) "faster" is always being defined in a very specific (to the post) way, or a loosey goosey, not specific enough manner. Meaning, if you are saying a 340 is "faster" in a roll on race from 30-X, do we know what tires each person had, the road conditions and each driver's abilities in those conditions, who got the best jump, any tuning done on either car, how much (extra) weight either car may have had in trunk, etc? Also, if a 340 is "faster" from say, 0-30, but the M3 trounces it 30-100, which one is "faster", and why? Also, assuming both cars have limiters lifted, wouldn't the faster car be the one with higher top speed (vs. "quicker")?

If you've spent any time on a track, you'll see guys in fairly stock Miata's, etc., often eating boosted BMW's, Mustangs, etc. for lunch, because they're better drivers, more comfy pushing their cars to the limits, etc., so in essence, even though their cars have less HP, they are in fact, faster.

If you've got an M3, you know it's fast as F***. Learn to wring out all its capabilities and you'll have no worries about power and speed, IMO
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What always cracks me up about these posts is that (aside from the obvious "your results may vary" of any given situation) "faster" is always being defined in a very specific (to the post) way, or a loosey goosey, not specific enough manner. Meaning, if you are saying a 340 is "faster" in a roll on race from 30-X, do we know what tires each person had, the road conditions and each driver's abilities in those conditions, who got the best jump, any tuning done on either car, how much (extra) weight either car may have had in trunk, etc? Also, if a 340 is "faster" from say, 0-30, but the M3 trounces it 30-100, which one is "faster", and why? Also, assuming both cars have limiters lifted, wouldn't the faster car be the one with higher top speed (vs. "quicker")?

If you've spent any time on a track, you'll see guys in fairly stock Miata's, etc., often eating boosted BMW's, Mustangs, etc. for lunch, because they're better drivers, more comfy pushing their cars to the limits, etc., so in essence, even though their cars have less HP, they are in fact, faster.

If you've got an M3, you know it's fast as F***. Learn to wring out all its capabilities and you'll have no worries about power and speed, IMO
This is so very true. In particular, "If you've got an M3, you know it's fast as F***. Learn to wring out all its capabilities and you'll have no worries about power and speed"

I try to keep this in mind every time I think about getting a new mod or thinking that the issue is the car why it's not faster on the track lol. Driver mods are the best mods!

A little test/reminder I give myself when I get into the internal speed debate is to look at how fast a professional driver was able to get the car to go. Case in point, Randy Probst used a base 2015 M4 with factory tires to run a 1:39.69 at Laguna Seca - even experienced F8X drivers used upgraded brakes, tires, and suspension (camber atleast) to get close to that time.

And so, more and more I've focused on really maximizing my time learning the car and improving my abilities instead of the "this car is faster than that car" stuff. The F8X has A LOT of headroom for growth.

Still fun to read about M3 vs. M340i in threads though
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      09-22-2021, 11:56 AM   #16
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This is a horrible thread to start! If you are comparing a M4 to a 340 with M package then maybe you need to go buy another brand. There should be a ///M IQ test before purchasing a real M car!
I just wanted to present my anecdote because I was genuinely surprised about the straight line performance of the 340. Last I checked, I can start any thread I like. My IQ is plenty high thanks, I am a chemist. Nice talk pleeb.

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I just wanted to present my anecdote because I was genuinely surprised about the straight line performance of the 340. Last I checked, I can start any thread I like. My IQ is plenty high thanks, I am a chemist who works on shit you wont see for 3-10 years in the semiconductor industry. Nice talk pleeb.


You obviously have no clue what a real M car is all about!
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What always cracks me up about these posts is that (aside from the obvious "your results may vary" of any given situation) "faster" is always being defined in a very specific (to the post) way, or a loosey goosey, not specific enough manner. Meaning, if you are saying a 340 is "faster" in a roll on race from 30-X, do we know what tires each person had, the road conditions and each driver's abilities in those conditions, who got the best jump, any tuning done on either car, how much (extra) weight either car may have had in trunk, etc? Also, if a 340 is "faster" from say, 0-30, but the M3 trounces it 30-100, which one is "faster", and why? Also, assuming both cars have limiters lifted, wouldn't the faster car be the one with higher top speed (vs. "quicker")?

If you've spent any time on a track, you'll see guys in fairly stock Miata's, etc., often eating boosted BMW's, Mustangs, etc. for lunch, because they're better drivers, more comfy pushing their cars to the limits, etc., so in essence, even though their cars have less HP, they are in fact, faster.

If you've got an M3, you know it's fast as F***. Learn to wring out all its capabilities and you'll have no worries about power and speed, IMO


Its not that serious bro. It was a spur of the moment roll race. Sure we can collect all the data points you mentioned, but who cares. The race was the fun part.
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You obviously have no clue what a real M car is all about!
Certainly not the case, but thanks. I always enjoy interacting with Canadian cucks online.
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Certainly not the case, but thanks. I always enjoy interacting with Canadian cucks online.
Here are 0-60 stats for you:

2020 2 Series – M240i xDrive Coupe: 0-60 mph in 4.2 seconds
2020 3 Series – M340i xDrive Sedan: 0-60 mph in 4.1 seconds
2020 4 Series – 440i xDrive Coupe: 0-60 mph in 4.6 seconds
2020 5 Series – M550i xDrive Sedan: 0-60 mph in 3.6 seconds
2020 7 Series – M760i xDrive Sedan / ALPINA xDrive Sedan: 0-60 mph in 3.6 seconds/3.5 seconds, respectively
2020 8 Series – M8 Competition Coupe: 0-60 mph in 3.0 seconds
2020 Z4 sDrive 30i – 0-60 mph in 5.2 seconds
2020 i3 (all-electric) – i3s 0-60 mph in 6.8 seconds
2020 i8 (plug-in hybrid) – i8 Coupe: 0-60 mph in 4.2 seconds
2020 M2 Competition Coupe: 0-60 mph in 4.2 seconds
2020 M4 Coupe: 0-60 mph in 4.1 seconds
2020 M5 Competition Sedan: 0-60 mph in 3.1 seconds
2020 M8 Competition Coupe: 0 – 60 mph in 3.0 seconds
2020 BMW X3 M Competition: 0 – 60 mph in 4.0 seconds
2020 BMW X4 M Competition: 0 – 60 mph in 4.0 seconds
2020 BMW X5 M: 0 – 60 mph in 3.8 seconds
2020 BMW X6 M: 0 – 60 mph in 3.8 seconds

Next thread you will start is how you lost to a M550i and/or a M760i!
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Certainly not the case, but thanks. I always enjoy interacting with Canadian cucks online.
Here are 0-60 stats for you:

2020 2 Series – M240i xDrive Coupe: 0-60 mph in 4.2 seconds
2020 3 Series – M340i xDrive Sedan: 0-60 mph in 4.1 seconds
2020 4 Series – 440i xDrive Coupe: 0-60 mph in 4.6 seconds
2020 5 Series – M550i xDrive Sedan: 0-60 mph in 3.6 seconds
2020 7 Series – M760i xDrive Sedan / ALPINA xDrive Sedan: 0-60 mph in 3.6 seconds/3.5 seconds, respectively
2020 8 Series – M8 Competition Coupe: 0-60 mph in 3.0 seconds
2020 Z4 sDrive 30i – 0-60 mph in 5.2 seconds
2020 i3 (all-electric) – i3s 0-60 mph in 6.8 seconds
2020 i8 (plug-in hybrid) – i8 Coupe: 0-60 mph in 4.2 seconds
2020 M2 Competition Coupe: 0-60 mph in 4.2 seconds
2020 M4 Coupe: 0-60 mph in 4.1 seconds
2020 M5 Competition Sedan: 0-60 mph in 3.1 seconds
2020 M8 Competition Coupe: 0 – 60 mph in 3.0 seconds
2020 BMW X3 M Competition: 0 – 60 mph in 4.0 seconds
2020 BMW X4 M Competition: 0 – 60 mph in 4.0 seconds
2020 BMW X5 M: 0 – 60 mph in 3.8 seconds
2020 BMW X6 M: 0 – 60 mph in 3.8 seconds

Next thread you will start is how you lost to a M550i and/or a M760i!
Cool to see the numbers but races from a dig are just so brutal on the transmission though
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Just stopped in here to say this:
Every non M 3/4/5 or X series I am ever given as a loaner vehicle is a reminder of what a True M car is and makes me so happy I’m no longer in that base model POS no matter how quick they are…
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