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      01-03-2014, 01:13 PM   #155
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i am sorry but which performance are you referring too, current mustang 5.0 has same performance as the current m3 and its 25-30k cheaper, i am just saying, i am a BMW fan too but come on, everyone here is OMG car is soo good to me it looks like an overpriced m-sport model w quad exhaust thats 10-20k more than a regular 3 or 4 series,remember its Marketing now not Motorsport
The 5.0 doesn't have nearly the amount of R&D as the M3 nor is it manufactured with the same quality of parts the M3 has. In the hands of most journalist to race car driver Randy Prost, who does reviews for motor trend, on Willow Springs raceway the two are very close. Compare the two on the Nurburgring, where the M3 is developed, and they don't compare. Fun fact, the S65 was designed from the F1 V8 BMW ran in their racecar. Can Ford say that about the "coyote" motor in the 5.0? There is your 20-30K difference.
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The 5.0 doesn't have nearly the amount of R&D as the M3 nor is it manufactured with the same quality of parts the M3 has. In the hands of most journalist to race car driver Randy Prost, who does reviews for motor trend, on Willow Springs raceway the two are very close. Compare the two on the Nurburgring, where the M3 is developed, and they don't compare. Fun fact, the S65 was designed from the F1 V8 BMW ran in their racecar. Can Ford say that about the "coyote" motor in the 5.0? There is your 20-30K difference.
i agree with you but 90% drivers will never even pass a race course let alone drive on it
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Fun fact, the S65 was designed from the F1 V8 BMW ran in their racecar. Can Ford say that about the "coyote" motor in the 5.0? There is your 20-30K difference.
Actually the S65 was derived from the M5's V10 S85. It's essentially an S85 with 2 cylinders lobbed off. They share many of the same characteristics and specifications. The motor in the race car is a farrrrrrrrrrr different beast.
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What a dumb move on BMW's part. Marketing 101 would dictate that you use the yardstick which shows the highest level of bespoke content, especially given how much the rest of the press release seem to highlight differentiation vs the standard car. I wonder why the glaring oversight?


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Again, if we are using the "80%" rule of the E92 M3 then body-wise the different parts are more than 80% different, as the trunk lid is also different this time.

We know for sure that the drivetrain itself is more than 50% different. We know for sure that the suspension is more than 50% different. In the case of the CCB the difference is 100%. We know all that because BMW already said so. So this 50% "bespoke" must be obviously some other kind of yardstick.
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