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      12-28-2013, 03:56 AM   #23
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      12-28-2013, 06:03 AM   #24
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Both .....it's a tough decision...both cars look great. Honestly, have to wait for GrandCoupe and convertible to see how they look like....definitely going to pass on GT if it gets an M variant:/
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      12-28-2013, 07:29 AM   #25
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My first car was a 1971 Alfa Romeo Berlina. That was simply because they lost value much faster than the Spider or the beautiful GTV, so I could actually afford a used one. I paid $1 per cc.

It was butt-ugly but I got hooked on how well it drove while at the same time being so incredibly practical as a daily driver. It would destroy my buddy's 2002, which had only 2 doors. My DD has been a 4-door ever since. Deposit is in on the M3!
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      12-28-2013, 07:37 AM   #26
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What is usually the price difference and the insurance difference between 2 and 4 door Ms?
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      12-28-2013, 08:00 AM   #27
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      12-28-2013, 08:03 AM   #28
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I already have my 2 doors so M3 gets my pick😃
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      12-28-2013, 08:05 AM   #29
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Everybody and their rich kids around here have a 328 sedan. I feel like the 4 door version of this car is way too common.
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      12-28-2013, 09:36 AM   #30
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The 20-ish pound difference between the two base cars is so negligible that it's not even worth mentioning.
It's actually 50lb.

Still not a huge difference if one prefers the sedan though...
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      12-28-2013, 09:40 AM   #31
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The 20-ish pound difference between the two base cars is so negligible that it's not even worth mentioning.
It's actually 50lb.

Still not a huge difference if one prefers the sedan though...

Per official literature it was 22 lbs. (...see quote below from one of our many threads about it)...

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BMWUSA lists them as 22 pound difference

3726 lbs
vs.
3704 lbs


like you said, just don't get a sunroof is key if you are worried about weight

....and once you start adding options it becomes a fruitless exercise because the marginally heavier sedan could be lighter than a coupe depending on the options on both cars. Even at 50 lbs. though, it's still fruitless. I agree with you.
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      12-28-2013, 09:51 AM   #32
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Per official literature it was 22 lbs. (...see quote below from one of our many threads about it)...
Sorry bud, it's 50lb. 3300lb vs 3350lb.

See here

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=925930

and here

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=925298

Agreed, once you start adding options weights will start to diverge. But the base difference still is 50lb for cars with the exact same options.
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      12-28-2013, 10:35 AM   #33
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M3 over M4 all day long.
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      12-28-2013, 10:41 AM   #34
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I've seen that, but BMW's 'official' numbers aren't consistent, and it ain't worth arguing about which of BMW's reported numbers are or aren't true. It's not like I pulled the 22 lb. difference out of my ass.
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      12-28-2013, 10:52 AM   #35
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We have no kids but I still favor the sedan for my next car. I like the looks of the sedan. It is also handy to have four doors when running errands and throwing stuff in the back seat or going on trips.
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      12-28-2013, 10:57 AM   #36
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I've seen that, but BMW's 'official' numbers aren't consistent, and it ain't worth arguing about which of BMW's reported numbers are or aren't true. It's not like I pulled the 22 lb. difference out of my ass.

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BMWUSA lists them as 22 pound difference

3726 lbs
vs.
3704 lbs


like you said, just don't get a sunroof is key if you are worried about weight
The reference you quoted dates back to 2010 and most likely is for the E9Xs .

IMO, the official BMW weight figures are the ones from the press release quoted by Jason. I have not yet seen any "official US" figures for the F8X...
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      12-28-2013, 11:01 AM   #37
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I've seen that, but BMW's 'official' numbers aren't consistent, and it ain't worth arguing about which of BMW's reported numbers are or aren't true. It's not like I pulled the 22 lb. difference out of my ass.

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BMWUSA lists them as 22 pound difference

3726 lbs
vs.
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like you said, just don't get a sunroof is key if you are worried about weight
The reference you quoted dates back to 2010 and most likely is for the E9Xs .

IMO, the official BMW weight figures are the ones from the press release quoted by Jason. I have not yet seen any "official US" figures for the F8X...
That's what I was referring to based on your "..last trend" statement with regards to the E9X. I wasn't referring to the F8X! Sorry for the confusion.
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      12-28-2013, 11:35 AM   #38
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Cruising with windows down is so much better in a coupe.
that's a fair point. however, my biggest gripe from owning coupes is the long doors. they don't make ingress/egress easier, as you might suspect. they actually make it more difficult because the door is so long that to open it enough to get out it swings out so far. this is especially a problem in parking garages where space is usually tight.
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      12-28-2013, 11:54 AM   #39
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That argument is dumb.

I'm constrained because I need the back doors for utility... But I have a coupe right now, and I'm excited to 'give up' some door. My M3 is a daily driver and those long doors are a pain in the butt in many parking lots. Quite frankly, the short doors open wider in any given space. Plus - what do I need the extra door space for anyway? It's not like the sedan doors are too small to get in or something.
+1000000000

I feel the need to comment, but I have nothing to add as you said everything I was thinking.
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      12-28-2013, 03:12 PM   #40
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Look how much door you are giving up by going to sedan:







This was taken from the Yahoo Comparison: http://autos.yahoo.com/news/2015-bmw...145057934.html
Yea but I might like the shorter door better for this reason: My seat position is decently close as I'm not the tallest person around (5' 8" lol) so I need to open my door pretty wide to get a decent amount of room to exit my car haha plus I have manual seats so setting memory 2 to like extreme open seating position is not an option.. the long door prevents me from opening it enough in tight quarters, i.e. the garage. I gingerly try to exit but with my dumb bodybuilder-y physique I'm not too graceful getting out without mashing all over my side bolsters haha and I'm very anal about keeping my leather pristine; I will never look cool getting out of my e92 hahaha
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4 Doors are boring but if you have kids & etc it makes sense. I think I would choose M5 over M3 though.

I will be ordering a coupe and never considered the sedan.
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I like the look of both cars. Going with the M3 because I used to own a 135i coupe and found it a bit inconvenient for hauling people and things. While the M4 is a bigger car it's still not conducive to carrying a drumset and other gear to gigs. I have an X3 now and it's going to be tough to give up the utility - especially the easy access to the back seat. The M3 is the best of both worlds and the fact that it looks great is icing on the cake.
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Some comments ITT are amusing.

Four doors certainly has that practicality upside for family and even the small door advantage for those tight places. The sedan may even look better to some eyes where the M4 and M3 are judged. To each his own.

For me, it's a straight forward question "Is the vehicle going to be used as workhorse, DD, or rugrats hauler or will it be a weekender, toy vehicle?" Four doors would be desirable for workhorse duty. For a weekender, a two door model is the ticket. The oft noted impracticality of merely two doors is well taken and a criticism that the two door model could and should use as a counterpoint toward sedans as coupés can point out to sedans, especially sport sedans, that nothing screams "COMPROMISE" quite as loudly as their four doors.
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Everybody and their rich kids around here have a 328 sedan. I feel like the 4 door version of this car is way too common.
thats what i am saying. the most common BMW has got to be the 3 series sedan.
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