Harmon Kardon Opinions?

AM4ZING · 03-09-2015, 10:43 PM

How friendly is the Harmon Kardon to a subwoofer?

Mandi90TT · 03-09-2015, 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by AM4ZING

How friendly is the Harmon Kardon to a subwoofer?

Quite friendly.

SierraZulu9 · 03-12-2015, 11:09 AM

The speakers sound great on the HK upgrade. And the subs have good SQ... but I was bummed about the spl. I need harder hitting bass and HK should've provided it. My 2012 335i subs hit pretty hard, and I was comparing my F82's HK vs my buddy's 2011 328i HK system and his subs definitely hit harder. But after the comparison I realized how much better the F82's overall sound quality is. But still.. I think the F82 can do with a hard hitting 12" in the back.

brianeck · 03-12-2015, 11:28 AM

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Originally Posted by JNoSol

BavSound also recommends people with BavSound S1 and HK to 0 out the EQ. They've been messing with BMW sound for years, so I'll take their advice over yours thanks...

If you talk to anyone who knows anything about a good sound system, they would also recommend a flat EQ setting. Changing the EQ setting distort the true sound of a recording, unless you want to do that for every song or have a low end system. (Or you have lost hearing to a certain sound frequency, which is natural sign of aging)

I would agree with your comment on the analog days, but not with high res digital sound source. Interesting article below.

http://www.ziyadnazem.com/post/95643...masking-the-eq" rel="ugc" target="_blank">http://<a href="http://www.ziyadnaze...ing-the-eq</a>

I'm not gonna disagree with you here with the "studio environment/perfect world caveat," nor did I reflect anything different in my original post.

You should trust BavSound, but you should also ask the question "At which speed/engine mode/road conditions did they decide it sounded perfect at 0eq." I would assume windows up engine off or windows up at idle.

Again, people drive differently and have different environmental factors to deal with. 0eq is not the end all be all perfect solution you're making it out to be.

There are three reasons that no matter how high end a system may be it still allows the listener to mess with the EQ bands at all: speaker changes/upgrades, individual taste, and external environmental variability.

External Environmental Variability is by far the biggest culprit when it comes to tuning a moving vehicles audio system. So great, your car sounds perfect at 0MPH with the windows up and the engine off. Mine is tuned to sound better at 70mph with 4 windows open in Sport+. . . and the Eq definitely isn't flat. I don't sit in my driveway with the car off listening to FLAC files very often.

M4LAKA · 03-28-2015, 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by GainswayM4

I also have crackling from my rear speakers. It's killing me - taking back to dealer this week to see what options exist.

What was your solution?

My local audio shop says I need a better processor

Who's on first · 03-28-2015, 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by M4LAKA

What was your solution?

My local audio shop says I need a better processor

Absolutely not unless it's a unique situation. I've had mine fixed and some others that I've met personally. They just need to remove the rear surround and put in new clips and some material to tighten up the grill, mine is perfect now.

You can call Northwest BMW in Baltimore talk to Jeremy they just did mine last week.

M4LAKA · 03-28-2015, 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by I hate picking user names

Absolutely not unless it's a unique situation. I've had mine fixed and some others that I've met personally. They just need to remove the rear surround and put in new clips and some material to tighten up the grill, mine is perfect now.

You can call Northwest BMW in Baltimore talk to Jeremy they just did mine last week.

My problem is that I get a crackling noise. Was told its resonate frequencys

Who's on first · 03-28-2015, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by M4LAKA

My problem is that I get a crackling noise. Was told its resonate frequencys

Yep.

That solution fixes it.

GainswayM4 · 03-28-2015, 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by M4LAKA

What was your solution?

My local audio shop says I need a better processor

It hasn't been fixed yet but we have concluded that the rattle is coming from the rear speaker covers / panels. It should go to the shop this week so I'll if they can fix it. If they do, I will find out exactly what they did and update here.

Who's on first · 03-28-2015, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by GainswayM4

It hasn't been fixed yet but we have concluded that the rattle is coming from the rear speaker covers / panels. It should go to the shop this week so I'll if they can fix it. If they do, I will find out exactly what they did and update here.

Read 3 posts up, it's a 20 minute fix.

Easy peasy.

AM4ZING · 03-28-2015, 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SierraZulu9

The speakers sound great on the HK upgrade. And the subs have good SQ... but I was bummed about the spl. I need harder hitting bass and HK should've provided it. My 2012 335i subs hit pretty hard, and I was comparing my F82's HK vs my buddy's 2011 328i HK system and his subs definitely hit harder. But after the comparison I realized how much better the F82's overall sound quality is. But still.. I think the F82 can do with a hard hitting 12" in the back.

Did you ever get around to installing a 12" sub?

GainswayM4 · 03-28-2015, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by I hate picking user names

Read 3 posts up, it's a 20 minute fix.

Easy peasy.

Thank you! Didn't see that.

SierraZulu9 · 03-29-2015, 11:56 AM

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Originally Posted by AM4ZING

Did you ever get around to installing a 12" sub?

Not yet. Just got my windows tinted with the same guys that would do the subs.. and I got to listen to an e46 m3 they had with two 10s in the back. Sounded real good ;-) So now I'm deciding what to throw in there. But as soon as I put anything in the trunk I'll be posting pics for sure

AM4ZING · 03-29-2015, 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SierraZulu9

Not yet. Just got my windows tinted with the same guys that would do the subs.. and I got to listen to an e46 m3 they had with two 10s in the back. Sounded real good ;-) So now I'm deciding what to throw in there. But as soon as I put anything in the trunk I'll be posting pics for sure

My current DD is an e46 m3 as I wait for arrival on my M4.
My e46 has a 12" sub and it just makes music sound amazing to the point where I know I'm going to have to install one in the m4

SierraZulu9 · 03-30-2015, 02:43 AM

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Originally Posted by AM4ZING

My current DD is an e46 m3 as I wait for arrival on my M4.
My e46 has a 12" sub and it just makes music sound amazing to the point where I know I'm going to have to install one in the m4

Waiting is the hardest part. The M4 definitely needs an extra sub in the back... there's barely any low bass.. but until i get the system put in I'm gonna just listen to the awesome exhaust ;-)

AM4ZING · 03-30-2015, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SierraZulu9

Waiting is the hardest part. The M4 definitely needs an extra sub in the back... there's barely any low bass.. but until i get the system put in I'm gonna just listen to the awesome exhaust ;-)

Cant wait for that... What kinda build is yours?

mul1gan · 03-31-2015, 07:37 AM

hey guys, how can you tell if you have the HK system other than it stating so on the windows sticker? There doesnt seem to be any HK markings on the system or speakers to indicate that it's an HK system.
thanks

Who's on first · 03-31-2015, 07:38 AM

Front door tweeters (by wing mirror) clearly marked.

mul1gan · 03-31-2015, 07:58 AM

hmmm i must be blind bc I didnt see anything... it was getting dark and late last night. I will check again

thanks

f80NJ17 · 12-13-2016, 09:15 AM

Hey, I should be getting my car mid january. I havent seen anyone talk about the Harmon Kardon Souns system. How is it compared to over cars. I currently have a 328i and it pare.

Hey, getting my car delivered by mid Febuary. I was just wondering what do you guys think go the Harmon Kardon speakers. What do your rate them 1-10. Any comments on sound quality over a stock 3 series. I currently drive a 328i and the sound system isnt that serious.

gonoyaro11 · 12-13-2016, 09:42 AM

Not bad.

mdefalco25 · 12-13-2016, 11:12 AM

Can't comment on the 3 series, but can say this. I came from an e92 M3 from 2008 that had the HK speaker upgrade. I personally feel that version was slightly better with cleaner audio and better bass. Not to the point I am feeling like I need to rush out and pick up the BAV upgrade, but to the point where I do notice some music just not sounding as clean. One thing I will add, with the new F80 you have ASD and when I removed that through coding, I noticed a bit better audio personally. Also, you will want to adjust the EQ based on recommendations to get better sound as well. Enjoy your new car in Feb. Plenty of good things to look forward to!

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03-12-2015, 11:09 AM	#91
SierraZulu9 Private 18 Rep 60 Posts Drives: F82 Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: San Diego, CA iTrader: (0)	The speakers sound great on the HK upgrade. And the subs have good SQ... but I was bummed about the spl. I need harder hitting bass and HK should've provided it. My 2012 335i subs hit pretty hard, and I was comparing my F82's HK vs my buddy's 2011 328i HK system and his subs definitely hit harder. But after the comparison I realized how much better the F82's overall sound quality is. But still.. I think the F82 can do with a hard hitting 12" in the back.
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mul1gan Second Lieutenant 19 Rep 254 Posts Drives: white Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: va iTrader: (0)	hey guys, how can you tell if you have the HK system other than it stating so on the windows sticker? There doesnt seem to be any HK markings on the system or speakers to indicate that it's an HK system. thanks
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mul1gan Second Lieutenant 19 Rep 254 Posts Drives: white Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: va iTrader: (0)	hmmm i must be blind bc I didnt see anything... it was getting dark and late last night. I will check again thanks
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f80NJ17 First Lieutenant 210 Rep 374 Posts Drives: 2022 X3M Comp Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: New Jersey iTrader: (0) Garage List 2022 BMW X3M [10.00]	Hey, I should be getting my car mid january. I havent seen anyone talk about the Harmon Kardon Souns system. How is it compared to over cars. I currently have a 328i and it pare. Hey, getting my car delivered by mid Febuary. I was just wondering what do you guys think go the Harmon Kardon speakers. What do your rate them 1-10. Any comments on sound quality over a stock 3 series. I currently drive a 328i and the sound system isnt that serious.
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gonoyaro11 Captain 65 Rep 863 Posts Drives: Woo Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: 426907 iTrader: (8)	Not bad.
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mdefalco25 Captain 197 Rep 710 Posts Drives: 03 E46 M3 Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: Normal, IL iTrader: (3)	Can't comment on the 3 series, but can say this. I came from an e92 M3 from 2008 that had the HK speaker upgrade. I personally feel that version was slightly better with cleaner audio and better bass. Not to the point I am feeling like I need to rush out and pick up the BAV upgrade, but to the point where I do notice some music just not sounding as clean. One thing I will add, with the new F80 you have ASD and when I removed that through coding, I noticed a bit better audio personally. Also, you will want to adjust the EQ based on recommendations to get better sound as well. Enjoy your new car in Feb. Plenty of good things to look forward to!
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