M4 vs 718 Cayman S

[Powaup]

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As I have 1 year left with my M4 I'm starting to consider my options, at first I was dead set on another M4 but after building one I noticed that an M4 the way I would want it would be ~$85K, which opens up a range of other cars.

Now, the new 718 Cayman is (almost) out and the numbers are ridiculous; the Boxster S is only 2 seconds slower than the Cayman GT4 around the ring, so it's safe to assume the Cayman S will be able to clock in just as fast or faster than the Cayman GT4 (the last gen Cayman was 6 seconds faster than the Boxster)

I love my M4 but some of the main quirks are the size, it's as big as an E39 sedan! I used to think the GTR was a huge coupe but this is even bigger. My original fix to this problem was going to be an M2 but I can't just fall in love with that car, the exterior and especially the interior are really lacking combined with some horrible lease rates makes it a tough sale for me.

Seems like the biggest downfall of the Cayman is the way the 4 Cylinder turbo sounds, but I should be used to sub-par sounding cars coming from an F8x right?


PS: this would be my DD, no wife, no kids

[pikkagtr]

I'm.i n the same boat as you
I specd a Cayman S with PDK and some other bits and it was around 83$k
I have till December to decide if I want another f80 ZCP and the new I drive 5.0 or take delivery in Stuttgart for a 718 as my buddy is picking up his 340i at the same time
First world problems I guess

[fusionchicken]

Those are some stunning pictures of the 718 wow

I would try the 718 just to change things up a bit, of course after test driving one

[Xtabi]

I'd like to register a vote for the Cayman. If I had no kids with no plans for any, and could only have one car, it would be a Cayman by a very long light year.

[Powaup]

Originally Posted by pikkagtr

I'm.i n the same boat as you
I specd a Cayman S with PDK and some other bits and it was around 83$k
I have till December to decide if I want another f80 ZCP and the new I drive 5.0 or take delivery in Stuttgart for a 718 as my buddy is picking up his 340i at the same time
First world problems I guess

Would love to do another Euro Delivery on a Cayman, are you worried about the snow in December though?

[Powaup]

Originally Posted by fusionchicken

Those are some stunning pictures of the 718 wow

I would try the 718 just to change things up a bit, of course after test driving one

Yea I really need to test drive one, can't wait for them to hit the showrooms

[dgp]

718 sounds more like a Subaru, and I think likely worse than inline 6 turbo in M3/4. Porsche likely dropped the ball there on sound and focused on performance only. 80K for a 4 cylinder coupe that doesn't sound good and performs well at track? Don't know if it's worth it....

[Devilzmantis]

I always loved the Cayman. If I had to do Cayman, it's gotta be the S or GTS. You'll feel the engine right in back of you. It's nimble and smaller than the M4. Get a test drive. This is a tough choice for me especially for the price. I give the edge to the M4.

[rubber_ducky]

I had a 987.2 cayman S and if it weren't for my becoming a father, I'd still have it. It's a different animal than the F8x cars.

Regarding the Cayman being faster than the Boxster... I'm not entirely up to speed on the 718 but I'm fairly certain that I'd read that the Cayman will finally be priced below the Boxster. What I'm not sure of is whether or not this new price level will mean that the Cayman will lose the [very slight] hp advantage that it has had over the boxster?

[Powaup]

Originally Posted by rubber_ducky

I had a 987.2 cayman S and if it weren't for my becoming a father, I'd still have it. It's a different animal than the F8x cars.

Regarding the Cayman being faster than the Boxster... I'm not entirely up to speed on the 718 but I'm fairly certain that I'd read that the Cayman will finally be priced below the Boxster. What I'm not sure of is whether or not this new price level will mean that the Cayman will lose the [very slight] hp advantage that it has had over the boxster?

The Boxster S cost $2100 more than the Cayman S and they have the exact same power (Cayman has the better power/weight ratio though)

[cprx7]

Vette territory as well at 650rwhp

[Powaup]

Originally Posted by cprx7

Vette territory as well at 650rwhp

I'm not a corvette guy myself but very good point, it's a lot of power and sounds great

[fusionchicken]

true c7z is right around that price bracket and it's a monster, nice problem to have haha

[auf Deutsch]

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1268311

A highly respected auto mag was not at all enamored with the 718 Boxter. Disappointing, underwhelming, soul destroying.....ouch

[ridin135]

I am a porschephile through and through but I would choose the M4 over the 718. If you really want a boxster get a 981 or if you can find it a GT4.

[ilya335]

Not sure if you've already checked, but Porsche lease rates are horrendous compared to BMW's.

[pikkagtr]

Originally Posted by Powaup

Would love to do another Euro Delivery on a Cayman, are you worried about the snow in December though?

Yeah I was apprehensive about winter delivery as well.
We may push it to April as I can use 2017s PTO and stay longer

[Motorsportenterprise]

Originally Posted by auf Deutsch

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1268311

A highly respected auto mag was not at all enamored with the 718 Boxter. Disappointing, underwhelming, soul destroying.....ouch

EVO also called the M4 the biggest disappointment.

That was just a base boxster. They loved the S! 4.5/5 stars too.

Haven't gotten to drive a 718 yet but obviously the base won't get the same tech as the S. The base is not worth getting though if you can get into the S which has gotten a lot of great feedback and reviews.

[Powaup]

Originally Posted by auf Deutsch

http://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sho....php?t=1268311

A highly respected auto mag was not at all enamored with the 718 Boxter. Disappointing, underwhelming, soul destroying.....ouch

I read that but they tested a bas 2L car not the 2.5L also Evo is the toughest critic out there. They slammed the M4 as well

[Powaup]

Originally Posted by ilya335

Not sure if you've already checked, but Porsche lease rates are horrendous compared to BMW's.

They actually aren't. You can get a Cayman for 600 a month. I never looked into Porsches because of their horrible lease rates. But the 718s have a competitive residuals for a car that just came out

[DieGrüneHölle]

Originally Posted by Powaup

They actually aren't. You can get a Cayman for 600 a month. I never looked into Porsches because of their horrible lease rates. But the 718s have a competitive residuals for a car that just came out

Correct. I was at Porsche dealer last month looking into a Macan. Their lease numbers are actually quite good. Money factor isn't that great, but high residual produces a low monthly payment. It was surprising as I have always heard the same about Porsche leasing.

[pikkagtr]

Originally Posted by Blipit_

Correct. I was at Porsche dealer last month looking into a Macan. Their lease numbers are actually quite good. Money factor isn't that great, but high residual produces a low monthly payment. It was surprising as I have always heard the same about Porsche leasing.

What was the residual if you don't mind me asking