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12-13-2018, 08:31 AM | #1 |
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Tesla Model 3 Performance breaks Laguna Seca production EV record again
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One thing the electric crowd will never talk about when it comes to tracking is endurance. Any model 3 could *maybe* do 4-5 laps at speed before pretty much exhausting it's battery pack or overheating it.
There was a model S at COTA a couple events ago and it made about 4 laps before it started to overheat the battery packs and had to come in. Didn't make it out again that day...nice $1K in track fees (COTA ain't cheap if you're not instructing) down the drain for that chap, $250 a lap is a bargain /s |
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12-13-2018, 04:31 PM | #6 | |
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I have personally taken my model 3 performance to Sonoma and was able to complete the 4x20min sessions I purchased. The stock PS4S tires gave out first and limited my session. There was indeed lesser power towards the end but not as bad as my old n54/n55 cars when in limp mode. Tesla engineers have told owners to expect 3% reduction in lap times as battery gets warm. I did need to use a Tesla DC fast charger during lunch break to have enough for the afternoon sessions because the onsite L2 chargers were only 4kwh. Had it been 7-10kwh chargers it would have been fine. Honestly guys, I had as much fun as my old F80, which is still lesser than the fun in my spec Miata. Full competition cars are just more fun for me than street cars. As I've said in the other thread, if you can only have 1 car, M3 (or other gas car of your choice) all the way. But if you can have commuter and a track car, it's worth considering an EV for the commuter. |
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So what they are saying is , a modded Tesla 3 performance is lapping 2 seconds slower than a completely stock 2014 M4 non competition. But this is Electrek of course, after reading a few articles on their site we clearly see what they're all about.
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12-14-2018, 01:10 PM | #9 |
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I just can't get over the Drive-Through style screen in the Tesla 3. The S is an elegant model, the 3 is a bit more froggy/goofy looking, I have not warmed up to it yet. Anyhow, props to Tesla for developing amazing cars. BMW has been at it since the early 1900's, Tesla just came out of the gate and for such a short period of time, their cars are impressive.
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Sure...Randy Pobst, one of the fastest drivers in the world around Laguna, went 1.6 seconds faster. Cool. But at a typical public trackday at Laguna, 1:41 is very respectable. |
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And of course 1:41 is very fast, 99% of drivers couldn't pull this off. |
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A lot of people getting into Model 3 are new to cars and a lot of people really into cars aren't giving EV a chance yet for whatever reason. For me personally, I'm treating the fact that model 3 can hit the track as a bonus. Like if friends or family want to go track and I need another car to lend or if my track car is being serviced, or something. Super cool tesla can track now. The next gen EV is going to be amazing (e.g. 700hp+ Porsche) |
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Ive observed a lot of ICE fans have a really visceral knee jerk reaction to EV and as a result miss out on a fun test drive. It's the same behavior of EV fans not being realistic about the limitations of their cars. As an aside it was hilarious to see how much some stock steer tire c7z51 drivers were over driving their cars at Sonoma to keep ahead of my EV (open lapping run group with no timing equipment). I don't put too much stock into it interiors, honestly. I commuted in a Chev Spark EV before Tesla and couldn't care less about the interior difference. They all aren't that great below the e63s level anyway. It's also not like my old cloth seats f80 was the most luxurious ride out there |
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In the spirit of Electrek: My 328dx even managed to put down faster lap times over a Model 3 Performance (with latest track mode) at Thunderhill last month. There's even video showing it. =P But of course what they don't want you to know is that just like an M3/M4, the Model 3 Performance won't make a driver look better than they are. |
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12-15-2018, 04:41 AM | #16 |
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This obviously indicates more than one.“It was faster than a number of track-prepared BMW M3’s, some of which came on a trailer and aren’t street vehicles." I looked up the reg info from that specific trackday...there were a handful of E46 M3s, two E92 M3s, one E90 M3, two F80 M3s, and one F82 M4. |
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Mountain Pass Performance AWD Sport coilovers Mountain Pass Performance Arastradero camber arms Maier Racing front and rear carbon spoilers Custom brake pads, Castrol SRF fluid Enkei 18 x 9.5" wheels Hoosier A7 255mm DOT street-legal tires Also found the stock time was 1:46.8 https://www.autoblog.com/2018/12/13/tesla-model-3-performance-laguna-seca-record-video/ Let's not get too triggered by the writer's hyperbole, and look in our own forum at other owners' LS times. That EV time is right around the same ballpark of f8x with similar mods Laguna Seca 1:37.10 Continental02 M4 zcp (slicks, BBK, AST5200) 1:38.756 scottn2retro M4 race car (Achilles slicks), driver David Alpan 1:41.029 redpriest M4 ZCP 6MT (Pirelli DH, ME20) 1:41.0 MayorAdamWest M2 (RE71R, DS1.11, KWCS) 1:41.35 Continental02 M4 ZCP (NT01, RS29, AST5200) 1:41.46 cntzl M4 zcp 6MT (NT01, PFC08) 1:41.85 YMB_M3 M3 6MT (NT01, Pagid, TC Kline) 1:42.98 cntzl M4 ZCP (NT01, RS29) 1:43.09 Flying Low M4 (R7, PFC11, GC) 1:45.7 CPWINCH M4 (TC Kline) 1:45.88 fanatic1 M4 (RE71,RS29) 1:47.xx jiujitsuforlife M4 (NT01,ME20,JRZ RS2) 1:49.27 clubsport M2 (RS29) |
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If you considered the above as "highly modified", then you're in a different demographic. |
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