TE37 Sagas fitment

[ntg44]

Hey everyone,

Looking into getting some bronze TE37s, had a question about fitment.

My M3 is currently lowered on MS springs, OEM steel brakes, and would like to fit Michelin PSS 265-40-18 front / 295-35-18 rear. I'm having a hard time finding bronze finish in the offsets I want, but found a set with these specs:

front: 18 x 9.5 +20
rear: 18 x 10.5 + 30

It's a tad more aggressive than the RTs (9.5 +29 / 10.5 +35), but was just curious if anyone could chime in if this would work for what I'm looking for.

Thanks in advance.

[whoop_ass]

you will be ok with the front

the rear is a bit on the aggressive side of things, if you plan to run stock size 275 it will work without touching even with a drop, but moving over to a 285 or 295 will cause an issue and again that is dependant on the different brand tyres and the tread width they have.

[ntg44]

Thanks for your input. With that being said, I did come across this thread:

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1460164

According to multiple accounts, a 295-35-18 non R comp would fit in the rear of an 11 inch +34, even lowered. Comparing a 10.5 + 30 to the 11 +34, I would have 10mm more room on the inside and 2mm more room on the outside. If I have more room in both directions, can't the 295-35-18 in theory also fit on the 10.5 +30?

If my logic is flawed, I'd love to learn why. Thanks again.

[whoop_ass]

Originally Posted by ntgarage44

Thanks for your input. With that being said, I did come across this thread:

https://f80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1460164

According to multiple accounts, a 295-35-18 non R comp would fit in the rear of an 11 inch +34, even lowered. Comparing a 10.5 + 30 to the 11 +34, I would have 10mm more room on the inside and 2mm more room on the outside. If I have more room in both directions, can't the 295-35-18 in theory also fit on the 10.5 +30?

If my logic is flawed, I'd love to learn why. Thanks again.

you 100% correct for some reason I though you were talking about 19"

due to it being an 18" your overall circumference is less.
295 non R compound will not be a stretch either on 10.5J

I still think it will be a bit tight, but again 18" rubber is the saving grace.
the overall circumference to what I run on my car and the 18" you want to use is nearly 1 inch lower in height, that's a big difference.
so I reckon you should be good..

[Justin.AutoTalent]

It all depends on the compound, sidewall shape, and also the suspension.

I've done a 295/35/18 Nitto safely on a car lowered with Swift Springs

[ntg44]

Thanks Justin.

I think I’m going to try continental ECS 265/40/18 and 285/40/18. There’s another thread on here where someone managed to fit a stretched OEM 275 MPSS on a 10.5 +20 in the rear with H&R super sport springs, which is 1/4 in lower in the rear than what I have. I’m hoping the extra 10mm from the offset and extra 1/4 inch from the spring will give me enough space. I’ll be the guinea pig and update with results.

[ntg44]

Okay so wheels and tires finally installed! Here’s the final setup:

F80 base with EDC, macht schnell lowering springs

Wheels: Volk TE37 Saga (ended up going with diamond dark gunmetal finish instead)
18 x 9.5 +20 front
18 x 10.5 +30 rear

Tires: continental extreme contact sport
265/40/18 front
285/40/18 rear

Fitment is super aggressive. I was worried about the rear, but even on these rough Chicago roads I experienced no rubbing on bumps or turns even in comfort mode. I can give a more thorough review once spring comes if anyone asks, but so far I am very pleased with the results. This is a really mean street setup. It was dark when I got the wheels/tires installed but I will upload pics when I get a chance to shoot during the day. I hope this helps anyone interested in this setup in the future.

[ntg44]

Here's some pics

[Justin.AutoTalent]

Originally Posted by ntgarage44

Here's some pics

Looks good

[x.shell]

Originally Posted by ntgarage44

Here's some pics

Super love this. I didn't even know TE37 Sagas existed. So many variations of the TE37.

JDM wheels for the win!

[ntg44]

Originally Posted by x.shell

Super love this. I didn't even know TE37 Sagas existed. So many variations of the TE37.

JDM wheels for the win!

Yeah, I used to be big in the Japanese car scene. But their recent offering have been pretty disappointing lately, so I thought the best way to add some Japanese flair was to rock these.

When I ordered them, I even checked to see if I could get a custom bolt pattern LM-GT4 reissue with the nismo logo on them. Got a firm no on that one though, so these will just have to do haha.

Loving them so far.

[ntg44]

So I was able to take a brief spirited drive today, and just wanted to give a summary of this wheel/tire setup. Roads were dry, and outside temp was 31 degrees F.

Tires: Far from ideal conditions for these tires, but WOW! Gone are the endless traction control interventions from stock MPSS tires. 2 out of 3 times, the car hooks perfectly in 1st and 100% of the time in 2nd gear. Roads are a little beat up, but even when TC kicks in, it is nowhere near as invasive as with stock tires. I don’t know if it’s a result of the compound, the extra width, or the extra weight of the tire, but whatever it is, this is such a great upgrade from stock, and I look forward to warmer temps in the spring to see what these tires are really capable of. The car feels so much faster now that first gear is usable.


Wheels: I was able to drive over some pretty bumpy roads and some hairpin turns and chicanes between 20-40 mph, enough to load up the suspension quite a bit. I drove with front windows open to try to catch any sign of rubbing in the rear. I am happy to report that there is no rubbing on any suspension setting despite only having a 1 finger gap between tire and fender wall in the rear. My ideal rear offset would have been a few mm more inward, but I can’t complain with the end result.

Overall, this could have not turned out better for me, and it even solved one of my biggest problems with the car - the lack of traction. I am very happy with this wheel/tire combo, and I hope this thread helps anyone who is considering either the tires or wheel offsets in the future.

[kevin85]

Do you think I can run 295/35/18 on 18 x 10.5 +30 rear without problem?

[ntg44]

Originally Posted by kevin85

Do you think I can run 295/35/18 on 18 x 10.5 +30 rear without problem?

Depends. Are you stock height in the rear? Which tire?

[kevin85]

Originally Posted by ntgarage44

Depends. Are you stock height in the rear? Which tire?

stock height, thinking about MPS4S

[ntg44]

Originally Posted by kevin85

stock height, thinking about MPS4S

Yeah if you're stock you won't have any issues on a street tire.