▀▄ eas | ESS E-Tronic Tuner Overview for S55 M3/M4

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by Zluk

I installed ess e-tronic on Tuesday.The program changes as described in the instructions.
Indication on the buttons work, let's say I choose to program to 1 (+2) or 3 (+1). After a few minutes the display goes off and is no longer illuminated. If you press any buttons, and attempts to unlock access to programs, nothing happens.When disconnecting the unit, and the inclusion it back in a few minutes, the chip is activated, the display is lit, the program can be changed. After some time, the display is switched off again, and access to the unit is lost. Can someone help?
Video

PS The link has a photo acceleration of measurements on different maps, does not differ from stock car.
RON 98 and RON 100
0-100 4.3c map 1(+2) and map 3 (+2) 100-200 9.6 on both map
Of mods on the car is worth only chip ess e-tronic (was commissioned by a month ago)
http://www.bmwclub.ru/vb/showthread....836630&page=66

Video is private.

[Zluk]

Omg...
Ok

[8600RPM]

Sounds like boxisn't working

[parky1215]

Originally Posted by Zluk

I installed ess e-tronic on Tuesday.The program changes as described in the instructions.
Indication on the buttons work, let's say I choose to program to 1 (+2) or 3 (+1). After a few minutes the display goes off and is no longer illuminated. If you press any buttons, and attempts to unlock access to programs, nothing happens.When disconnecting the unit, and the inclusion it back in a few minutes, the chip is activated, the display is lit, the program can be changed. After some time, the display is switched off again, and access to the unit is lost. Can someone help?
Video

PS The link has a photo acceleration of measurements on different maps, does not differ from stock car.
RON 98 and RON 100
0-100 4.3c map 1(+2) and map 3 (+2) 100-200 9.6 on both map
Of mods on the car is worth only chip ess e-tronic (was commissioned by a month ago)
http://www.bmwclub.ru/vb/showthread....836630&page=66

From your video, it seems like unit is working ok.
Unit went to sleep when you turned off the car for a while (should go off after 30 minutes).
It woke up automatically when you opened the door.
It still had your last program remembered (map 3, +2).

If still in doubt, just send email to
support@esstuning.com

They will provide you faster answer than asking people in here.

[tom @ eas]

Just completed a trip to ESS's HQ from SoCal to Arizona and back home with no hiccups and plenty of road to play with power.

[8600RPM]

Never heard back tom on any thoughts about using -3 and +3 for dynos. I think many people would love to see ess dynos with setting at recommended middle. (No + or - with a few pulls to adapt for each map.if this is still possible one day I know several of is still hoping to see that

[F80JMcD]

Originally Posted by 8600RPM

Never heard back tom on any thoughts about using -3 and +3 for dynos. I think many people would love to see ess dynos with setting at recommended middle. (No + or - with a few pulls to adapt for each map.if this is still possible one day I know several of is still hoping to see that

+1

I'm currently running Stage 2 +3. Would like to see the result of running different power curves...

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by 8600RPM

Never heard back tom on any thoughts about using -3 and +3 for dynos. I think many people would love to see ess dynos with setting at recommended middle. (No + or - with a few pulls to adapt for each map.if this is still possible one day I know several of is still hoping to see that

Originally Posted by F80JMcD

+1

I'm currently running Stage 2 +3. Would like to see the result of running different power curves...

We'll get some more data next time we get strapped to the dyno.

[8600RPM]

Appreciate it!

[Zanardi43]

Originally Posted by 8600RPM

Never heard back tom on any thoughts about using -3 and +3 for dynos. I think many people would love to see ess dynos with setting at recommended middle. (No + or - with a few pulls to adapt for each map.if this is still possible one day I know several of is still hoping to see that

I just ordered mine from ESS. Before doing so, I had a long phone discussion with Roman and peppered him with questions about this piggy. One of those questions was what the +/- buttons do (if anything). He said they make VERY minor boost adjustments to that specific tune. I asked him (all things equal) what the dyno would show going from both +/- extremes of the same tune and his answer was "just a few HP".

[dmk08]

Originally Posted by Zanardi43

I just ordered mine from ESS. Before doing so, I had a long phone discussion with Roman and peppered him with questions about this piggy. One of those questions was what the +/- buttons do (if anything). He said they make VERY minor boost adjustments to that specific tune. I asked him (all things equal) what the dyno would show going from both +/- extremes of the same tune and his answer was "just a few HP".

Ask 3 times and you'll likely get 3 different answers.

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by Zanardi43

I just ordered mine from ESS. Before doing so, I had a long phone discussion with Roman and peppered him with questions about this piggy. One of those questions was what the +/- buttons do (if anything). He said they make VERY minor boost adjustments to that specific tune. I asked him (all things equal) what the dyno would show going from both +/- extremes of the same tune and his answer was "just a few HP".

The +/- settings are covered in the instructions and the opening post. You can increase the settings based on available octane to gain a bit more HP up top.

[8600RPM]

Originally Posted by dmk08

Ask 3 times and you'll likely get 3 different answers.

Exactly! And are noT subtle. from my own experience they feel way different

The frustration is we put trust in companies and inconsistent data is not confidence inspiring. The graphs ess posted initially look nothing like eas dyno graphs so for those if us looking to use ess which I do, would like good data on exactly what the box is doing and unlike jb4 graphs which all look the same, ess is completely different than eas
.
just a bit frustrating as I've always supported ess and put early trust in them with a brand new m3, but getting data from them has been very tough and as mentioned above its a bit concerning why answers vary so much.

[Sales@Alekshop]

Originally Posted by 8600RPM

Exactly! And are noT subtle. from my own experience they feel way different

The frustration is we put trust in companies and inconsistent data is not confidence inspiring. The graphs ess posted initially look nothing like eas dyno graphs so for those if us looking to use ess which I do, would like good data on exactly what the box is doing and unlike jb4 graphs which all look the same, ess is completely different than eas
.
just a bit frustrating as I've always supported ess and put early trust in them with a brand new m3, but getting data from them has been very tough and as mentioned above its a bit concerning why answers vary so much.

The ESS piggyback was changed from the first generation to the current. The first version had only 1 map "stage 1", the current version has 3 maps and the original stage 1 map that was carried over from the first controller to the second generation was slightly changed. I was told the + - maps on the gen 2 box was not planned to be active right away and was added at the last minute so that info was a little late to get marketed to the public. If you were a customer during this transition I'm sure there might have been a little confusion as a lot of changes were being made to improve the unit in a short time but if you are buying a tuner now that is not the case.

ESS I'm sure trusted Tom and the guys at EAS to do a lot of the dyno testing on the S55 piggyback to not only get some independent results but also because EAS has such a large database of other tuned, modified and stock S55's they can easily do direct comparisons. All of the dyno results I have seen on the new gen 2 ESS piggyback have been very consistent. If you check the ESS website the dyno they show for the new Gen 2 tuner I believe is the EAS dyno and the original single map gen 1 dyno has been removed so the data available now seems to be pretty consistent to me.

http://www.esstuning.com/productimag...urrent_image=2

[Zanardi43]

Originally Posted by 8600RPM

Exactly! And are noT subtle. from my own experience they feel way different

The frustration is we put trust in companies and inconsistent data is not confidence inspiring. The graphs ess posted initially look nothing like eas dyno graphs so for those if us looking to use ess which I do, would like good data on exactly what the box is doing and unlike jb4 graphs which all look the same, ess is completely different than eas
.
just a bit frustrating as I've always supported ess and put early trust in them with a brand new m3, but getting data from them has been very tough and as mentioned above its a bit concerning why answers vary so much.

We all know the numerical dyno figures can vary significantly between different dynos under different conditions, so when you say "the graphs ess posted initially look nothing like eas dyno graphs", I assume you mean the shape of the hp/tq curves? If so, perhaps those variations are a result of the ESS graph being on otherwise OEM car and the EAS graph being on a car with catless downpipes and a intakes? I don't know...I'm asking.

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by Zanardi43

We all know the numerical dyno figures can vary significantly between different dynos under different conditions, so when you say "the graphs ess posted initially look nothing like eas dyno graphs", I assume you mean the shape of the hp/tq curves? If so, perhaps those variations are a result of the ESS graph being on otherwise OEM car and the EAS graph being on a car with catless downpipes and a intakes? I don't know...I'm asking.

We always test the products we offer (and some we don't) to verify manufacturer's claims. This also allows us to be more familiar with the products and give accurate real-world recommendations based on collected data and experience.

[Zanardi43]

Originally Posted by Sales@Alekshop

The ESS piggyback was changed from the first generation to the current. The first version had only 1 map "stage 1", the current version has 3 maps and the original stage 1 map that was carried over from the first controller to the second generation was slightly changed. I was told the + - maps on the gen 2 box was not planned to be active right away and was added at the last minute so that info was a little late to get marketed to the public. If you were a customer during this transition I'm sure there might have been a little confusion as a lot of changes were being made to improve the unit in a short time but if you are buying a tuner now that is not the case.

ESS I'm sure trusted Tom and the guys at EAS to do a lot of the dyno testing on the S55 piggyback to not only get some independent results but also because EAS has such a large database of other tuned, modified and stock S55's they can easily do direct comparisons. All of the dyno results I have seen on the new gen 2 ESS piggyback have been very consistent. If you check the ESS website the dyno they show for the new Gen 2 tuner I believe is the EAS dyno and the original single map gen 1 dyno has been removed so the data available now seems to be pretty consistent to me.

http://www.esstuning.com/productimag...urrent_image=2

Insightful, thank you. So now my question is what tune/configuration each of the colored lines represent on this

http://www.esstuning.com/productimag...urrent_image=2

dyno on the ESS site?

Brown = 'stock'?
Red = Linear?
Dark blue = stage 2 (+3)?

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by Zanardi43

Insightful, thank you. So now my question is what tune/configuration each of the colored lines represent on this

http://www.esstuning.com/productimag...urrent_image=2

dyno on the ESS site?

Brown = 'stock'?
Red = Linear?
Dark blue = stage 2 (+3)?

Same vehicle, same dyno (EAS M4) slightly different files used for comparison, you can see some match up with the dynos on the OP. File legend is as follows:

Runfile 0: ER downpipes, Akra Evolution Exhaust, BMC filters, 91 Fuel
Runfile 10: ER downpipes, Akra Evolution Exhaust, BMC filters, ESS E-Tronic Linear (Stg1) -3, 91 Fuel
Runfile 18: ER downpipes, Akra Evolution Exhaust, BMC filters, ESS E-Tronic Torque (Stg2) -1, 91 Fuel
Runfile 21: ER downpipes, Akra Evolution Exhaust, BMC filters, ESS E-Tronic Stage 1 (Stg3) -3, 91 Fuel
Runfile 32: ER downpipes, Akra Evolution Exhaust, BMC filters, ESS E-Tronic Linear (Stg1) +3, 100 Fuel
Runfile 35: ER downpipes, Akra Evolution Exhaust, BMC filters, ESS E-Tronic Torque (Stg2) +3, 100 Fuel

Hope this helps!

[8600RPM]

This is even more misleading and confusing as on their site they don't specify that the dynos are done in every mode but neutral as tom posted, they are all plus or minus,3. Still strange to me that everything but the recommended setting was tested and put on their site

[tom @ eas]

Originally Posted by 8600RPM

This is even more misleading and confusing as on their site they don't specify that the dynos are done in every mode but neutral as tom posted, they are all plus or minus,3. Still strange to me that everything but the recommended setting was tested and put on their site

It's a bit unfair to call it misleading, but there's not as much info on a product page compared to what can be provided by interacting on a public forum.

We'll fill in the gaps as much as possible and am always happy to share real-world data.

[8600RPM]

Originally Posted by tom @ eas

Same vehicle, same dyno (EAS M4) slightly different files used for comparison, you can see some match up with the dynos on the OP. File legend is as follows:

Runfile 0: ER downpipes, Akra Evolution Exhaust, BMC filters, 91 Fuel
Runfile 10: ER downpipes, Akra Evolution Exhaust, BMC filters, ESS E-Tronic Linear (Stg1) -3, 91 Fuel
Runfile 18: ER downpipes, Akra Evolution Exhaust, BMC filters, ESS E-Tronic Linear (Stg2) -1, 91 Fuel
Runfile 21: ER downpipes, Akra Evolution Exhaust, BMC filters, ESS E-Tronic Linear (Stg3) -3, 91 Fuel
Runfile 32: ER downpipes, Akra Evolution Exhaust, BMC filters, ESS E-Tronic Linear (Stg1) +3, 100 Fuel
Runfile 35: ER downpipes, Akra Evolution Exhaust, BMC filters, ESS E-Tronic Linear (Stg2) +3, 100 Fuel

Hope this helps!

Tom ypur calling run 18 linear stage 2? On your initial post 18 is torque full ppwer stage 2??

[8600RPM]

Actual in your post above you have linear next to each run. Now I'm more confused.

How about a nice stage 1, 2 and 3. No plus or minus. Dybo graph with a few pulls,in between to adapt.