Made a trip to Cali to swap my JB4 for VF Hex tune

[yellowssm]

Originally Posted by LongBeachDinanFan

It looks to have another few hundred RPM of lag compared to stock? Since this is an analysis thread post up the datalogs from the runs so we can see just how safely this remap is setup. 480whp on a tune, pump gas, and mods, seems pretty common. I've seen lots of 500whp dynos posted so maybe its a bit low?

I have no logs sorry

[momo3605]

Originally Posted by LongBeachDinanFan

It looks to have another few hundred RPM of lag compared to stock? Since this is an analysis thread post up the datalogs from the runs so we can see just how safely this remap is setup. 480whp on a tune, pump gas, and mods, seems pretty common. I've seen lots of 500whp dynos posted so maybe its a bit low?

Where have you seen 91 octane dynos making 500whp? This is a 91 octane tune so you have to compare apples to apples. Please link me, very curious

[///M ARMY]

Originally Posted by momo3605

Where have you seen 91 octane dynos making 500whp? This is a 91 octane tune so you have to compare apples to apples. Please link me, very curious

Were is this 500whp on 91 oct? 483whp isn't 500.....

[AW BMW]

Originally Posted by ///M ARMY

Were is this 500whp on 91 oct? 483whp isn't 500.....

Well I have to say, 483 is still pretty good for 91 octane. I will never see that with my JB4 on map1 on 91 octane. I can get close on map 2 if I do a mix of e85 and 93 since I have both available close to where I live.

[momo3605]

Originally Posted by ///M ARMY

Were is this 500whp on 91 oct? 483whp isn't 500.....

I know...Longbeachdinanfan is claiming that he's seen lots of 500whp dynos. Not me. I don't think I've seen any 91 octane dynos Come close to 500. But I'd like to be proven wrong hence asking for some proof

[FC4]

Originally Posted by AW BMW

Well I have to say, 483 is still pretty good for 91 octane.

Agreed. The most I recall seeing on 91 prior to this is around 460 RWHP. VF's results are very good.

Originally Posted by AW BMW

I can get close on map 2 if I do a mix of e85 and 93 since I have both available close to where I live.

It's more like 479 RWHP (on 93 octane) with no other mods but the BMS Stage 1 or Map 1 on a JB4:



Or 500+ RWHP with some E85 on Map 2 with no other mods.



Or if you want to turn the wick up, 560 RWHP on 100 octane with downpipes, exhaust, and filters on Map 7.

[BMW M4 PWR]

Originally Posted by FC4

Agreed. The most I recall seeing on 91 prior to this is around 460 RWHP. VF's results are very good.



It's more like 479 RWHP (on 93 octane) with no other mods but the BMS Stage 1 or Map 1 on a JB4:



Or 500+ RWHP with some E85 on Map 2 with no other mods.



Or if you want to turn the wick up, 560 RWHP on 100 octane with downpipes, exhaust, and filters on Map 7.

^^^😎👀

[AW BMW]

Originally Posted by FC4

Agreed. The most I recall seeing on 91 prior to this is around 460 RWHP. VF's results are very good.



It's more like 479 RWHP (on 93 octane) with no other mods but the BMS Stage 1 or Map 1 on a JB4:



Or 500+ RWHP with some E85 on Map 2 with no other mods.



Or if you want to turn the wick up, 560 RWHP on 100 octane with downpipes, exhaust, and filters on Map 7.

I want to see some 6mt results, all I have seen is DCT numbers. Heard from a friend a 6mt made 495 hp on 91 octane with the vf tune but I wan to see dyno results to see what a 6 speed is doing with the vf tune. I just find it more convenient to go to one gas station instead of a few to get a desired octane number so 91 numbers are of my interest. I have tried map 2 with a 94 octane mix but didn't feel that much difference to map 1, I do need to try out map 7 with race gas to see how that feels on the JB4.

[FSociety]

Those runs in 5th gear are always going to show higher peak, no one highlighting the power under the curve .. STD numbers from JB4 are also going to be higher, post the Uncorrected one and see the difference ..
Isn't DCT suppose to dyno in 4th gear ? and Manual in 5th gear ?

[FC4]

Originally Posted by ROBNYC

Isn't DCT suppose to dyno in 4th gear ? and Manual in 5th gear ?

5th is 1:1 in the DCT and is the closest to 1:1 in the 6MT.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Congrats OP!!!

For everyone trying to compare dyno to see which tune makes more power:

Comparison is invalid

Jb4 maps are off the shelf made for all the cars (all conditions, all grade fuel(91 in one country can vastly differ from 91 in another country)) to get very noticeable power without pushing the car to its limit or else we would be seeing damaged engines left and right

This is a custom tune made specifically for this car for a specific fuel grade, mods and conditions. Tuner will try and get the max safe power from the car

To do a proper comparison between 2 tunes, you need to use map 6 on your JB4 or just compare the times posted in events like shift sector.Burger Tuning have been dominating these kinds of events for years and the last one from last month was no different

[FC4]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Congrats OP!!!

For everyone trying to compare dyno to see which tune makes more power:

Comparison is invalid

Jb4 maps are off the shelf made for all the cars (all conditions, all grade fuel(91 in one country can vastly differ from 91 in another country)) to get very noticeable power without pushing the car to its limit or else we would be seeing damaged engines left and right

This is a custom tune made specifically for this car for a specific fuel grade, mods and conditions. Tuner will try and get the max safe power from the car

No. This is still just a pre-packaged, off the shelf bench flash. What's leading you to believe this is a custom tune?

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by FC4

No. This is still just a pre-packaged, off the shelf bench flash. What's leading you to believe this is a custom tune?

Its a flash tune, the tuner has the car in front of them

They load the base map and do any required adjustments based on their logs

If the base map was too aggressive, the tuner can tone it down

[VF-Engineering]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Its a flash tune, the tuner has the car in front of them

They load the base map and do any required adjustments based on their logs

If the base map was too aggressive, the tuner can tone it down

That is factually incorrect...

yellowssm's Stage TWO tune is the same Stage TWO that we sell to all Stage TWO customers.

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by VF-Engineering

That is factually incorrect...

yellowssm's Stage ONE tune is the same Stage ONE that we sell to all Stage ONE customers.

You are missing the point

ANY tuner will put a base map on the customer's car, then test it. If it is good that's great. If not they will adjust it

this advantage gives the tuner the ability to put a more aggressive map as a base map and if needed tone it down

[VF-Engineering]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

You are missing the point

ANY tuner will put a base map on the customer's car, then test it. If it is good that's great. If not they will adjust it

this advantage gives the tuner the ability to put a more aggressive map as a base map and if needed tone it down

We're not missing the point at all.

Our designated Stage Levels for our HEX Tuning Software are pre-engineered and developed to be sold as designated Stage ONE, Stage TWO, or Stage TWO+ power levels.

This is a pre-engineered solution to be sold to any customer who desires a tune that provides consistent and reliable power on 91 Octane or higher pump fuel.

There is no need for data-logging, changing settings, mixing fuels, custom tuning, etc...

It's an apples to apples comparison for any customer who will be running 91 Octane fuel on a Stage TWO level car that wants a pre-engineered software solution for 91 Octane pump fuel.

[VF-Engineering]

Any further questions or comments, please post them in our "Official HEX Tuning by VF Engineering" thread by clicking >HERE<

This is a customer review thread and we hope to leave the conversation to the OP and other users interested in his project and experiences.

[crschnei]

Hey Op, just curious how you have been enjoying the tune. I am on the fence about this vs the JB4 and was curious about your insight. Thanks!

[yellowssm]

Originally Posted by crschnei

Hey Op, just curious how you have been enjoying the tune. I am on the fence about this vs the JB4 and was curious about your insight. Thanks!

Still loving it! There was nothing wrong with the jb4 and it had many cool features but power difference from the jb4 is crazy. I'll be making my way back to California again in a week or 2 for the TCU upgrade.

[crschnei]

Originally Posted by yellowssm

Still loving it! There was nothing wrong with the jb4 and it had many cool features but power difference from the jb4 is crazy. I'll be making my way back to California again in a week or 2 for the TCU upgrade.

That's good to hear, thanks!

[S2evo1]

Originally Posted by FC4

Agreed. The most I recall seeing on 91 prior to this is around 460 RWHP. VF's results are very good.



It's more like 479 RWHP (on 93 octane) with no other mods but the BMS Stage 1 or Map 1 on a JB4:



Or 500+ RWHP with some E85 on Map 2 with no other mods.



Or if you want to turn the wick up, 560 RWHP on 100 octane with downpipes, exhaust, and filters on Map 7.

The last dyno looks like shit! 560whp befor 5krpm!.? and falling like a rock after that. The S55 Engine should make max power a lot higher then that.

[BoosTonian]

Originally Posted by S2evo1

The last dyno looks like shit! 560whp befor 5krpm!.? and falling like a rock after that. The S55 Engine should make max power a lot higher then that.

When you're blowing that much boost, that's what happens since the stock turbos are quite small. Upgrading them will shift that power curve much higher! That's why you hear people saying to shift into next year at 6k rpm, to stay in that powerband

Check out the dynos from pure to see how much of a difference it makes!