Anti-dazzle and VLD in 2018 cars?

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by FlyingLow78

Would you mind posting the photo PaulM sent you? Also curious what his headlight housing part number and the build date of his car are.

It also may be interesting to note that the left headlight seemed to work fine with GFHB coding. It was the right one that had all of the leakage in the forward regions.

Watching your video, the pass clearly isn't working properly with extreme glare. Drivers side appears to only go between full high beam, down to a flat (no spot rise elbow) 2800 lumen reduced intensity passing beam, then either goes up to the 3450lumen motorway beam and/or full HB depending on which frame I pause on.

Hopefully he doesn't mind...The factory installed headlights have different part numbers on the data sticker as they come pre-programmed and fully assembled. The actual part numbers are elsewhere on the back of the housing.

Its a late June build car with left headlight from 4.29.18 batch and right headlight from 5.28.18 batch.

First one is pass side, second is driver's side.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by lemetier

Few more weeks until they can give me one. Also would you mind emailing or messaging me some pics from your car? Would also like to look at the NCD's and possibly do a quick remote session if you have time since it's original CAN market and production date far enough after this was legalized there to potentially make things a little easier for US cars.

Seems like the Canadian cars indeed have different hardware. This is from the driver's side outer projector on my 2019 M4cs July 2018 build. It seems to have the 3 LED emitters and the additional circuits like PaulM :

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by lemetier

Stay tuned. It's looking to not be a headlamp hardware issue. Just don't get too hopeful (unless one is in Canada).

I did a little research and found out that Transport Canada has finally legalized variable light distribution headlamps since March 2018. It's about time but also refreshing to see they are more progressive than the US DOT, so I retract my earlier words.

I however wonder why BMW still decodes these functions on Canadian cars if they are now legal ??!? Do they need to be specifically certified?

[FlyingLow78]

Originally Posted by lemetier

Watching your video, the pass clearly isn't working properly with extreme glare. Drivers side appears to only go between full high beam, down to a flat (no spot rise elbow) 2800 lumen reduced intensity passing beam, then either goes up to the 3450lumen motorway beam and/or full HB depending on which frame I pause on.

Hopefully he doesn't mind...The factory installed headlights have different part numbers on the data sticker as they come pre-programmed and fully assembled. The actual part numbers are elsewhere on the back of the housing.

Its a late June build car with left headlight from 4.29.18 batch and right headlight from 5.28.18 batch.

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Seems like the Canadian cars indeed have different hardware. This is from the driver's side outer projector on my 2019 M4cs July 2018 build. It seems to have the 3 LED emitters and the additional circuits like PaulM :

If my reading of this thread is correct, both cars have working GFHB, right?

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by FlyingLow78

If my reading of this thread is correct, both cars have working GFHB, right?

I coded mine and they seem to be working fine, however I am no expert at this. I'll try to do a video with my wife during the christmas vacation so I can post and get feedback here. I don't believe PaulM has his decoded/coded yet.

[PaulM]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

I did a little research and found out that Transport Canada has finally legalized variable light distribution headlamps since March 2018. It's about time but also refreshing to see they are more progressive than the US DOT.

I however wonder why BMW still decodes these functions on Canadian cars if they are now legal ??!? Do they need to be specifically certified?

I was wondering the same thing. When I picked up the car, I asked the people at the dealership about whether or not Canadian cars will have the full anti-dazzle functionality recoded now that it's legal in Canada. They had absolutely no idea what I was talking about.

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

I don't believe PaulM has his decoded/coded yet.

Mine isn't coded yet. Still waiting on ISTA+ download to finish so I can then try to send lemetier the data he needs.

[lemetier]

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

Seems like the Canadian cars indeed have different hardware. This is from the driver's side outer projector on my 2019 M4cs July 2018 build. It seems to have the 3 LED emitters and the additional circuits like PaulM :

Since Valeo is the supplier, I'd hesitate to label it a definitive hardware change. They're a "competitive" supplier and with that comes some occasional oddities. My Range Rover now has 2 different headlights after one was damaged during drivetrain replacement. The pass side is a hybrid US/RoW with empty holes instead of a fully sealed trim surround and a different size/configuration turn indicator.

If more members have the 2 chip drive side assembly, we can then put those on the not applicable list.

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

I did a little research and found out that Transport Canada has finally legalized variable light distribution headlamps since March 2018. It's about time but also refreshing to see they are more progressive than the US DOT.

I however wonder why BMW still decodes these functions on Canadian cars if they are now legal ??!? Do they need to be specifically certified?

Trade Agreements are a wonderful thing on occasion. It's now the world and the US standards. Unfortunately there's some bureaucratic hurdles to address before BMWCA is fully up to speed. There's a PUmA/Parts Clearing notation for CAN headlights effective 21.03.18 and internally, the NA model codes changed starting with July SOP. Still sticking with the FMVSS/CMVSS Federalization for models ending production before 2020. The UN and SAE standards include retroactive certifications if the manufacturers choose to do so. That's why I really want to analyze files from recent CAN market cars.

Originally Posted by CanAutM3

I coded mine and they seem to be working fine, however I am no expert at this. I'll try to do a video with my wife during the christmas vacation so I can post and get feedback here. I don't believe PaulM has his decoded/coded yet.

If you can GoPro it, try to stick it on the outside of the windshield, 20cm offset towards the passenger side, level with the KAFAS camera. That's the best place to avoid glare from oncoming traffic while maintaining the ability to see what your car is doing.

Originally Posted by PaulM

I was wondering the same thing. When I picked up the car, I asked the people at the dealership about whether or not Canadian cars will have the full anti-dazzle functionality recoded now that it's legal in Canada. They had absolutely no idea what I was talking about.

Mine isn't coded yet. Still waiting on ISTA+ download to finish so I can then try to send lemetier the data he needs.

And yet they already offer retrofit kits on their website for very cars. Fingers-crossed this will end up being easier than I anticipated. Just want to make sure everything is set as it should be, voltages are correct, and those locking plugs don't break the pivot position mounting point since it's in a really bad spot and very delicate.

[White340]

Hi,

I have a 2018 ZCP M3 built in Aug 2018. I have the Adaptive LED headlights and I seem to have three chipsets on mine. Does this mean anti-dazzle will work?

Thanks!

[fernisatree]

Any update on this?

[adc]

I was curious too if there is any update...

[Mr. Hankey]

Had some time to check my car out and do some testing - Lemetier is right. Have a US 2018 with LCI LEDs coded for VLD and anti dazzle . My passenger light has 3 chipsets, driver side looks like 1, but definitely different than the other side.

They seemed to be working perfectly normal on mine because my car is coded such that the adaptive high beams don't turn on until 60 MPH and since that is usually highway for me the passenger high beam only goes on and lights up the side of the road while driver side stays on low beam. Below 60 MPH they just work as normal auto high beams. Messed with those speed settings a bit for when adaptive highs kick on and the tunnel clearly not working as it should be and it is the drivers side light that isn't "moving" much compared to passenger side. Definitely glaring the back of other cars. Passenger side works fine though. May try and just code it leaving drivers side "normal".

In any event I only find the feature helpful at higher speeds anyway, in my '15 I think I was the one more dazzled by the anti dazzle lights than they were helpful.

[White340]

Originally Posted by rhk118

Had some time to check my car out and do some testing - Lemetier is right. Have a US 2018 with LCI LEDs coded for VLD and anti dazzle . My passenger light has 3 chipsets, driver side looks like 1, but definitely different than the other side.

They seemed to be working perfectly normal on mine because my car is coded such that the adaptive high beams don't turn on until 60 MPH and since that is usually highway for me the passenger high beam only goes on and lights up the side of the road while driver side stays on low beam. Below 60 MPH they just work as normal auto high beams. Messed with those speed settings a bit for when adaptive highs kick on and the tunnel clearly not working as it should be and it is the drivers side light that isn't "moving" much compared to passenger side. Definitely glaring the back of other cars. Passenger side works fine though. May try and just code it leaving drivers side "normal".

In any event I only find the feature helpful at higher speeds anyway, in my '15 I think I was the one more dazzled by the anti dazzle lights than they were helpful.

Do you have instructions on how to code it using BimmerCode? I have a US spec 2018 zcp and have three chips on both lights so it should work on mine right? Thanks

[jimmydick]

Looking forward to keep learning developments. Great work on this.

[Almaretto]

Originally Posted by White340

Do you have instructions on how to code it using BimmerCode? I have a US spec 2018 zcp and have three chips on both lights so it should work on mine right? Thanks

Bimmercode does not give access to necessary ECUs.

[Mr. Hankey]

Originally Posted by White340

Do you have instructions on how to code it using BimmerCode? I have a US spec 2018 zcp and have three chips on both lights so it should work on mine right? Thanks

Originally Posted by Almaretto

Bimmercode does not give access to necessary ECUs.

This. I'm using E-Sys. Might have to drive to Canada and pick up a drivers side LED!

[White340]

Originally Posted by rhk118

This. I'm using E-Sys. Might have to drive to Canada and pick up a drivers side LED!

Thanks. I used Esys to code my 2016 340 and will have to dust it off to try coding the headlights.

[fernisatree]

Originally Posted by White340

Thanks. I used Esys to code my 2016 340 and will have to dust it off to try coding the headlights.

Can you do me a favor and check to see what the part number is on your drivers headlight? I also have a 2018 M3 ZCP us-spec but do not have three chips on both sides just passenger. I am in Germany so hopefully the headlight can be sourced easily.

[OhioRiderAaron]

Originally Posted by lemetier

Since Valeo is the supplier, I'd hesitate to label it a definitive hardware change. They're a "competitive" supplier and with that comes some occasional oddities. My Range Rover now has 2 different headlights after one was damaged during drivetrain replacement. The pass side is a hybrid US/RoW with empty holes instead of a fully sealed trim surround and a different size/configuration turn indicator.

If more members have the 2 chip drive side assembly, we can then put those on the not applicable list.



Trade Agreements are a wonderful thing on occasion. It's now the world and the US standards. Unfortunately there's some bureaucratic hurdles to address before BMWCA is fully up to speed. There's a PUmA/Parts Clearing notation for CAN headlights effective 21.03.18 and internally, the NA model codes changed starting with July SOP. Still sticking with the FMVSS/CMVSS Federalization for models ending production before 2020. The UN and SAE standards include retroactive certifications if the manufacturers choose to do so. That's why I really want to analyze files from recent CAN market cars.




If you can GoPro it, try to stick it on the outside of the windshield, 20cm offset towards the passenger side, level with the KAFAS camera. That's the best place to avoid glare from oncoming traffic while maintaining the ability to see what your car is doing.



And yet they already offer retrofit kits on their website for very cars. Fingers-crossed this will end up being easier than I anticipated. Just want to make sure everything is set as it should be, voltages are correct, and those locking plugs don't break the pivot position mounting point since it's in a really bad spot and very delicate.

My understanding is that CMVSS and FMVSS are splitting up somewhat and ADB will be incorporated for CM next year? Sorry I work in automotive lighting but focus on rear lamps these day so I'm outta loop (and not on the SAE board like some of my coworkers).

[fernisatree]

I have a 2018 U.S. Spec 2018 M3. I found a great deal on a pair of ECE LCI headlights part numbers 63118738705 and 63118738706. Anyone have any ideas if these would i need to reprogram them and possibly the plug and play ability with these?

Thanks

[jimmydick]

I have a my2018 with an August 2017 build date. I checked the outer lh & rh housings. It was challenging to see looking up so I turned the lights on can clearly see 3 leds on both.

My lights are coded and appear to work properly but get flashed occasionally while using nghb.

[fernisatree]

Originally Posted by jimmydick

I have a my2018 with an August 2017 build date. I checked the outer lh & rh housings. It was challenging to see looking up so I turned the lights on can clearly see 3 leds on both.

My lights are coded and appear to work properly but get flashed occasionally while using nghb.

If you are getting flashed more than likely you're headlights are giving aware glare to people driving. I got flashed a couple times when i programmed these and realized i am putting alot of light into peoples eyes at night so had to stop using these. They appear to work but i would recommend not driving around with them enabled and go back to original coding.

[88tuning.id]

Originally Posted by fernisatree

I have a 2018 U.S. Spec 2018 M3. I found a great deal on a pair of ECE LCI headlights part numbers 63118738705 and 63118738706. Anyone have any ideas if these would i need to reprogram them and possibly the plug and play ability with these?

Thanks

isnt yours also have LCI headlights? what's the point of changing into European version?

i believe there's a setting in FLE module (LCI cars) that stated US/ECE setting for the headlights. i need to check further though.


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