things you think BMW could have added to the m4

[pkimM3r]

Originally Posted by basscadet

You do not notice a significant difference in daily street driving between the N54 and the S65? Either you spend all the time in your M3 at 6500 RPMs or you are being sarcastic.

Lol. Its prob because I either go granny slow or when i need to, i do get up to 6500rpm. Probably a little lower than that maybe like 5000rpm? But in my logic thats about the equivalent of 3500-4000rpm in the 135i.

But both cars are pretty meh if you dont downshift for acceleration as is any other car.

I think the difference in my experience is that yes in the 135i you can feel the torque more, but in the m3, although you dont feel it as much you are definitely going faster. So to me, the low end torque thing still doesnt make sense because you are still accelerating faster.

Plus even though the peak torque number in the m3 is at a high rpm, since its a flat torque curve, the differnce at low rpms and at high rpms is negligible. Hence you do have the same amount of torque down low, you just wont feel it since it doesnt spike drastically and come down like in the 135i.

Kind of hard to explain but ....

[mxa121]

M3s have NO torque DUDE


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[pkimM3r]

lol....

i still dont understand

295tq (with about 90% of it available from 1800rpms and flat all the way to redline) = NO TORQUE!!

300tq (with turbo lag and a big ass spike and tapers down to nothing passed 5000rpm) = YES GOBS OF TORQUE!!!!!!

[solstice]

Originally Posted by pkim1079

lol....

i still dont understand

295tq (with about 90% of it available from 1800rpms and flat all the way to redline) = NO TORQUE!!

300tq (with turbo lag and a big ass spike and tapers down to nothing passed 5000rpm) = YES GOBS OF TORQUE!!!!!!

Yeah, I never understood the lack of TQ comments for the E9X M3. It has more than enough TQ for pretty much any commuter situation. It's no Cummins diesel or Tesla but it's not exactly gutless at low rpms. And when you want to really drive you just move up in the wide rpm range. It's truly a lovely engine. A bit thirsty but well worth the inconvenience and cost of frequent fill ups.

[pkimM3r]

Originally Posted by solstice

Yeah, I never understood the lack of TQ comments for the E9X M3. It has more than enough TQ for pretty much any commuter situation. It's no Cummins diesel or Tesla but it's not exactly gutless at low rpms. And when you want to really drive you just move up in the wide rpm range. It's truly a lovely engine. A bit thirsty but well worth the inconvenience and cost of frequent fill ups.

Even tesla dies down and because of its limited speed, in a straight away it has no chance. It might jump in front but from then on its inevitable that the tesla will start seeing tail lights!

I didnt know it at the time, but i suspect thats why a novice like me said byebye to an instructor in a tesla on the track.