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      07-04-2016, 03:54 PM   #1
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M3 vs M3 CP video

So.... after thick fog, torrential rain, blown batteries and one broken mic, have managed to pull something out of my disastrous day of filming!

Here you go.... Not as I'd want but there we go - had to get something up!!

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      07-04-2016, 04:21 PM   #2
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      07-04-2016, 04:40 PM   #3
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Fantastic review and the filming was brilliantly done!! More?? Please!
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      07-04-2016, 05:01 PM   #4
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Heard Chris Evans has quit top gear so there's a postion available Guy.
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      07-04-2016, 05:06 PM   #5
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Despite your troubles as described, a really good piece well done Guy.
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      07-04-2016, 05:11 PM   #6
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Excellent vid well done! I still can't get enough of the burbles!
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      07-04-2016, 05:21 PM   #7
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Getting very professional now Guy with all the camera angles, editing and even aerial shots, well done!

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well done again guy . I'm learning so much about M3 from you, even thou I'm getting M4 vert. but knowing already how to enjoy and getting the best out this wonderful machine ,also getting to know with experince the best for ones driving preference & settings.
My preference is still the CP also loving them wheels.... thats best thing for me about the CP
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      07-04-2016, 05:43 PM   #9
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Another excellent offering
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Awesome video.

You should look into DriveTribe, it seems new social thing by Clarkson, Hammond and May. I signed up last week and received an email for submitting your own clips. This one would be perfect!

http://drivetribe.com/driven
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Awesome video.

You should look into DriveTribe, it seems new social thing by Clarkson, Hammond and May. I signed up last week and received an email for submitting your own clips. This one would be perfect!

http://drivetribe.com/driven
Thanks - getting better but not happy yet. Give me a few more and I might think about it.....
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Thanks all. NOT happy at all with the video but I'm the most self-critical person in the world. Have an opportunity for cracking content off-road on Thursday - manically trying to sort out a cameraman to help film it.....
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Awesome video.

You should look into DriveTribe, it seems new social thing by Clarkson, Hammond and May. I signed up last week and received an email for submitting your own clips. This one would be perfect!

http://drivetribe.com/driven
Thanks - getting better but not happy yet. Give me a few more and I might think about it.....
Was this all GoPro or different cameras? I'm considering taking a shot at it too. I'm thinking about a Bourdain spin, visiting various car meets... Idk.
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Was this all GoPro or different cameras? I'm considering taking a shot at it too. I'm thinking about a Bourdain spin, visiting various car meets... Idk.
Yup, was all GoPro and won't be doing that again. I run a rental company and my usual camera got rented out!!! Going back to proper camera for piece to video - that's what caused the sound problems and me losing footage.

GoPro's are great but they have limits.
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Another excellent comparison video excellent video angles and sliding shots with great content, they just get better each Tim, well done guy keep up the good work
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      07-04-2016, 06:39 PM   #17
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Another excellent vid Guy!
Keep em coming......

With regards the traction differences between the two cars, I've read a few reports on the CP that are all very similar. Here's one from TG which describes what you are experiencing with the CP:

http://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/m3/first-drive

"The rear differential is transformed. It’s much more subtle in its actions, more precise and much more confidence inspiring. Now, when you open the taps on the way out of a corner, it feels like both wheels are driving, trying to get traction and drive forwards, not trying a spot of sideways showboating. It’s still fun, and will slide and smoke as much as you want if you disengage the DSC, you loon, but for everyday driving, even on quick, tight, fun roads, it’s not only more effective, but more rewarding, with a nice wide neutral point that makes the chassis feel a lot more balanced."

I know they are most likely comparing the CP to the old pre-MY2016, but above still holds true based on what you've found and described. A lot of similarities there.

They've obviously done software/hardware/suspension/ARB tweaks to achieve this and don't forget ................ there is a lot more rubber on the road with those 20's.
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Another excellent vid Guy!
Keep em coming......

With regards the traction differences between the two cars, I've read a few reports on the CP that are all very similar. Here's one from TG which describes what you are experiencing with the CP:

http://www.topgear.com/car-reviews/m3/first-drive

"The rear differential is transformed. Itís much more subtle in its actions, more precise and much more confidence inspiring. Now, when you open the taps on the way out of a corner, it feels like both wheels are driving, trying to get traction and drive forwards, not trying a spot of sideways showboating. Itís still fun, and will slide and smoke as much as you want if you disengage the DSC, you loon, but for everyday driving, even on quick, tight, fun roads, itís not only more effective, but more rewarding, with a nice wide neutral point that makes the chassis feel a lot more balanced."

I know they are most likely comparing the CP to the old pre-MY2016, but above still holds true based on what you've found and described. A lot of similarities there.

They've obviously done software/hardware/suspension/ARB tweaks to achieve this and don't forget ................ there is a lot more rubber on the road with those 20's.
Except Andy that if you drive the CP with the TC off, it will showboat to your heart's content (and whilst it shouldn't be applauded on HM Highways, I am guilty of playing - just no bl**dy way I'm showing that on YT). My big beef is with MDM on the CP - it's way too restrictive. Amusingly, I've read that this is a complaint with even the M4 GTS. Would be nice to have a setting between MDM and TC off.

There's no question on damp stuff earlier in the day, mine felt sturdier and I felt a lot more confident. Now whether that is down to familiarity I couldn't say.

I can't help but say that that review is comparing the CP to the old M3. The new M3 (in normal form) meets most that description above.
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      07-04-2016, 07:50 PM   #19
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Very good review Guy. Worthy of a hundred respect points if that's possible. You are doing this off your own back for the purpose of future potential buyers and doing a great job. hat off to you mate. You are so right about the traction improvement of cp as I now always put m2 on with mdm activated and wouldn't have ever considered that when I drove previous non cp models as I was breaking traction in those in efficient mode. Gotta be the wider tyres and improved dampers which Defo makes the cp worth it's extra cash in my eyes. After all that is exactly what cp is meant to do, improve your track time! Not make it is better ride round town
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      07-05-2016, 03:47 AM   #20
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Really enjoyed your review Guy and some lovely shots of the cars too. Particularly liked the travel into each of the interiors which made me glad I chose the Silverstone this time.

What can you blag for a day next...? A GTS perhaps
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Heard Chris Evans has quit top gear so there's a postion available Guy.

Haha, that is what I was going to say

Cracking video again thanks!!
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Thanks for the video Guy, some great shots of your car and very helpful information

Got a question for you, if the std car had a CG valve controller fitted, open as default, would it sound similar to your car? I remember taking an MY16 on a test drive end of last year, and seem to remember it making a few pops from the exhaust in sports mode? does the CP overfuel on lift off to make it more dramatic?
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