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[Joekerr]

So after a few snowfalls, we decided we really should finally put the winter tires on my wife's car.

But since we both work, that was a little tricky...though I have more flexibility than her. So we finally decided she'd drive her car to work, I'd drop the boys off at daycare, come back to her work and grab her car and leave mine there and bring her car to the shop to get the tires changed over.

This necessitated me asking my father in law to also drive to the shop with me so that he could then drive me back to the office so I didn't have to waste my time sitting around a tire shop.

Tires finally got changed, and I got a ride back to the tire shop, picked up my wife's car and drove it back to her office and grabbed my car again and drove back to my office.

It has not been an overly productive day for me work wise. And now I'm on here, which isn't helping.

I had debated just leaving my car at her office and giving her the other set of keys so that I didn't have to make one of the round trips...but I sort of don't precisely really very much trust her with the combo of snow/ice + RWD + 465 hp. I know deep down she is a good driver...but still.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by F83

And here's the missing link;

Assange was in with Putin. Manafort was in with Trump. Now it appears the connection has been made between Assange and Manafort.

Whoo boy. Here we go.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/11/27/polit...ngs/index.html

Yup here we go (maybe). There always was evidence that Assange was a Putin stooge and now there may be evidence connecting the Trump campaign directly to that apparatus. Interesting tines ahead indeed.

On a lighter note how are you doing? Long time no talk!

Also, any issues with your Dinan tune? I really want to tune my M3, but I'm scared shitless of having to shell out for a motor on my own dime out of warranty.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

So after a few snowfalls, we decided we really should finally put the winter tires on my wife's car.

But since we both work, that was a little tricky...though I have more flexibility than her. So we finally decided she'd drive her car to work, I'd drop the boys off at daycare, come back to her work and grab her car and leave mine there and bring her car to the shop to get the tires changed over.

This necessitated me asking my father in law to also drive to the shop with me so that he could then drive me back to the office so I didn't have to waste my time sitting around a tire shop.

Tires finally got changed, and I got a ride back to the tire shop, picked up my wife's car and drove it back to her office and grabbed my car again and drove back to my office.

It has not been an overly productive day for me work wise. And now I'm on here, which isn't helping.

I had debated just leaving my car at her office and giving her the other set of keys so that I didn't have to make one of the round trips...but I sort of don't precisely really very much trust her with the combo of snow/ice + RWD + 465 hp. I know deep down she is a good driver...but still.

Be a man (or a Lups) and get a jack/stands and do it yourself!

I do this, but I have the room to store everything and I get some don't or don't want to deal with it. The M3s wheels/tires are easy, but the F150s are heavy as hell and really suck to do.

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by minn19

Be a man (or a Lups) and get a jack/stands and do it yourself!

I do this, but I have the room to store everything and I get some don't or don't want to deal with it. The M3s wheels/tires are easy, but the F150s are heavy as hell and really suck to do.

I tried (it would have been more convenient), but I refuse to use the stupid scissor jack that comes with the car. I have better things to do with my time, rather than twisting and twisting and twisting some more. Better things include watching paint dry.

But my floor jacks wouldn't lift her car high enough (SUV) for me to swap the tires. I do my own car, but unless I go pay for yet another floor jack that will hoist it high enough...I can't (or I'm stuck with the stupid scissor jack, which I'm not using unless I'm on the side of the road).

Yeah, the stock tires on my Chrysler are 20's and heavy too...they sort of suck to put on. I find sitting on the floor and lifting seems to work best at aligning the bolts to the holes since I'm more or less eye level.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by Joekerr

I tried (it would have been more convenient), but I refuse to use the stupid scissor jack that comes with the car. I have better things to do with my time, rather than twisting and twisting and twisting some more. Better things include watching paint dry.

But my floor jacks wouldn't lift her car high enough (SUV) for me to swap the tires. I do my own car, but unless I go pay for yet another floor jack that will hoist it high enough...I can't (or I'm stuck with the stupid scissor jack, which I'm not using unless I'm on the side of the road).

Yeah, the stock tires on my Chrysler are 20's and heavy too...they sort of suck to put on. I find sitting on the floor and lifting seems to work best at aligning the bolts to the holes since I'm more or less eye level.

Huh, I wonder what floor jack you have. I have one that lifts my F150 high enough and that has pretty high clearance. Conversely it barely gets under my M3.

[F83]

Originally Posted by minn19

Yup here we go (maybe). There always was evidence that Assange was a Putin stooge and now there may be evidence connecting the Trump campaign directly to that apparatus. Interesting tines ahead indeed.

On a lighter note how are you doing? Long time no talk!

Also, any issues with your Dinan tune? I really want to tune my M3, but I'm scared shitless of having to shell out for a motor on my own dime out of warranty.

Things are good! Recently became a citizen - so was able to vote in the mid-term elections. Our current President inspired me to finally take the plunge. It was nice to play a small little part in bringing some checks and balances back into our government!

Still loving the M4 and Dinan. As you know, I still have the 2015 - up to about 36k miles now and no problems (knock on keyboard). Of course the Panamera is now my daily - so the M4 spends more time gleaming in the garage than it used to - but I still get it out regularly.

Are you back to an M3? I guess so based on your note.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by F83

Things are good! Recently became a citizen - so was able to vote in the mid-term elections. Our current President inspired me to finally take the plunge. It was nice to play a small little part in bringing some checks and balances back into our government!

Still loving the M4 and Dinan. As you know, I still have the 2015 - up to about 36k miles now and no problems (knock on keyboard). Of course the Panamera is now my daily - so the M4 spends more time gleaming in the garage than it used to - but I still get it out regularly.

Are you back to an M3? I guess so based on your note.

I am, long story short I loved my GT350(s), but just wish they were made by a different company. I'm sure you can read between the lines.

And congrats! Always good to have some great people come in and help in a variety of different ways! I said that poorly, but I think you know what mean.

I love the newer Panameras, especially the higher optioned ones.........

[F83]

Originally Posted by minn19

I am, long story short I loved my GT350(s), but just wish they were made by a different company. I'm sure you can read between the lines.

And congrats! Always good to have some great people come in and help in a variety of different ways! I said that poorly, but I think you know what mean.

I love the newer Panameras, especially the higher optioned ones.........

New platform Panamera Turbo baby!

It set me back god knows but it was worth it.

[Joekerr]

Originally Posted by minn19

Huh, I wonder what floor jack you have. I have one that lifts my F150 high enough and that has pretty high clearance. Conversely it barely gets under my M3.

The newest one I bought was min 3" (give or take - can't remember if it was 3 and 5/8ths or something) up to I believe 14" lift.

The other floor jack I had started at 5 1/4 but only went to about 15". It will lift the Murano a little at maximum lift point, but not enough to get the tires to rotate, just basically unload the suspension to maximum extension.

I'm sure it has been said with many differing meanings, mostly by women (except Lups, because she would never say such a thing), but an extra inch in this case would have made all the difference.

I suppose if I wanted to MacGyver the thing, I could put a small 2x4 on the lift point, but I'm a little leery of that.

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by F83

New platform Panamera Turbo baby!

It set me back god knows but it was worth it.

Does the Panny feel long when you drive it?

Kind of want to get behind the wheel of one to see... I actually might do that o.o

[myzmak]

Oh Lups good news at last.

at last

[Captain Blood]

Originally Posted by Arcades

Does the Panny feel long when you drive it?

Kind of want to get behind the wheel of one to see... I actually might do that o.o

I saw one on my drive home on Monday. The newest one, that has the spoiler wings extend out.

[F83]

Originally Posted by Arcades

Does the Panny feel long when you drive it?

Kind of want to get behind the wheel of one to see... I actually might do that o.o

Alright here I go...

Keep in mind, I've got the Panamera Turbo with a Sport Chrono package and rear axel steering - so basically it's got all of the most important performance options.

So, with that out of the way, the car is a complete chameleon depending on how you've got the driving mode set. The difference in the modes is way way waaaay bigger than with the M4.

In comfort mode, the car is a bit like an S Class. Not bad handling, but pretty soft ride. Engine is in efficient mode, so cylinder deactivation will kick in - all of that can lead to a little bit of momentary lag when you hit it. But it's quiet, smooth and still quite fast.

If you go all the way to Sport+ (let's just pass the middle setting) - the car's suspension physically drops 2-3 inches and firms way way up. Engine RPMs go up as the PDK drops one or two gears. Exhaust flaps open.

Anyway, in Sport+ mode the thing is fucking ridiculous. MUCH faster than my (modified) M4. Car & Driver and Road and Track timed the 0-60 at 3 flat using launch control. Porsche claims 3.4. Truth is probably in the middle.

With the rear Axel steering, the car feels much smaller than it actually is. Honestly, when in Sport +, if you don't look in the rear view mirror you can convince yourself you are driving a 911. Sure it's heavy, but you never feel it - and the ridiculous rubber (325s on the rear, 275s on the front) you are NEVER lacking for grip.

Because it's got the Sport Chrono package, you also get a "Push to Pass" button on the steering wheel - which means that even if you are in comfort mode - if you push the button you get maximum (and instant) aggression for 30 seconds. It's hilarious - you go from S class smooth to raging "fuck you cut-off guy" immediately.

I still love my M4. It’s now mostly a summer/fair weather car these days.

But if you test a Panny - Go for the Turbo, Sport Chrono, with rear Axel Steering. I can't speak for the less optioned ones.

This photo is my actual car, but from the dealership before I bought it. I need to clean it up and get some better photos.

[Lups]

Originally Posted by (((myzmak)))

Oh Lups good news at last.

at last

That band has been around forever and I still can't stand them! I can recommend you a ton of better bands in the genre if you're finally coming around to real music!

[Captain Blood]

Originally Posted by Lups

That band has been around forever and I still can't stand them! I can recommend you a ton of better bands in the genre if you're finally coming around to real music!

Good morning! I'm going to sleep now.......

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by F83

Alright here I go...

Keep in mind, I've got the Panamera Turbo with a Sport Chrono package and rear axel steering - so basically it's got all of the most important performance options.

So, with that out of the way, the car is a complete chameleon depending on how you've got the driving mode set. The difference in the modes is way way waaaay bigger than with the M4.

In comfort mode, the car is a bit like an S Class. Not bad handling, but pretty soft ride. Engine is in efficient mode, so cylinder deactivation will kick in - all of that can lead to a little bit of momentary lag when you hit it. But it's quiet, smooth and still quite fast.

If you go all the way to Sport+ (let's just pass the middle setting) - the car's suspension physically drops 2-3 inches and firms way way up. Engine RPMs go up as the PDK drops one or two gears. Exhaust flaps open.

Anyway, in Sport+ mode the thing is fucking ridiculous. MUCH faster than my (modified) M4. Car & Driver and Road and Track timed the 0-60 at 3 flat using launch control. Porsche claims 3.4. Truth is probably in the middle.

With the rear Axel steering, the car feels much smaller than it actually is. Honestly, when in Sport +, if you don't look in the rear view mirror you can convince yourself you are driving a 911. Sure it's heavy, but you never feel it - and the ridiculous rubber (325s on the rear, 275s on the front) you are NEVER lacking for grip.

Because it's got the Sport Chrono package, you also get a "Push to Pass" button on the steering wheel - which means that even if you are in comfort mode - if you push the button you get maximum (and instant) aggression for 30 seconds. It's hilarious - you go from S class smooth to raging "fuck you cut-off guy" immediately.

I still love my M4. It’s now mostly a summer/fair weather car these days.

But if you test a Panny - Go for the Turbo, Sport Chrono, with rear Axel Steering. I can't speak for the less optioned ones.

This photo is my actual car, but from the dealership before I bought it. I need to clean it up and get some better photos.

I didn't know that the Panny Turbo had cylinder deactivation. I never thought about looking into some of the specifics of the Macan but I don't think the V6 on the Macan S, GTS and Turbo has the cylinder deactivation on Efficient mode. Although to be honest it would make a lot of sense now that I'm looking at it considering how the car behaves when it comes it being in Efficient. (Slow to react, very noticeable delay). Compared to Sport it just pulls immediately, seeing how it throws the Torque to the front wheels for the first two gears for 50/50.

The Macan S is enough when it comes to daily, considering how gas hungry the car is. It barely gets above my M3 or M4 which doesn't make too much sense unless you realize the Macan has a 15 gallon gas tank and the F80/F82 has a 12 gallon tank. That's pretty severe for how hungry the damn V6 TT is.

There have been a few electronic gremlins for our Macan as well. Small things here and here for us. The two things that has popped up have been our headlights not auto adjusting. It happens but so far two or three times and in fact it happened today (got a service error). I drive the Macan a lot more than my parents. All of the 7k mileage, about 6k of it is from me, rest is from my mother, her car to work which is like... 5 miles away lol. I'm also not overly fond of the vibrations coming from the V6 either. There have been a few times during idle I could have swear the vibrations were abnormal but I don't know for sure. Exhaust on the Macan S/GTS/Turbo sounds good though, straight up sounds better than the S55 stock to stock. That V6 rumble is great.

All in all though, to be honest, I still take the Macan GTS/Turbo over the current X3 M40i or the soon to be X3M. I am heavily considering grabbing my uncle's Macan GTS when his lease ends but that would leave our house with two Macans which would be weird. Not to mention my parents wouldn't want to. I always talk to my parents about large purchases. It's a habit for me. (If they don't agree, I don't do it.)

I'll try to get my hands on the Panny. I can do it pretty easily so :P Actually got my LA Auto Show tickets from the Porsche dealership today. They had a Black GT3 RS unsigned for, 1 used 3.8 yellow 911 GT3 and one new Carerra White 4.0 GT3.

[F83]

Originally Posted by Arcades

I didn't know that the Panny Turbo had cylinder deactivation. I never thought about looking into some of the specifics of the Macan but I don't think the V6 on the Macan S, GTS and Turbo has the cylinder deactivation on Efficient mode. Although to be honest it would make a lot of sense now that I'm looking at it considering how the car behaves when it comes it being in Efficient. (Slow to react, very noticeable delay). Compared to Sport it just pulls immediately, seeing how it throws the Torque to the front wheels for the first two gears for 50/50.

I don't know about the Macan but the Panamera Turbo certainly does. In fact, I think it will take 8 cylinders all the way down to 4 if cruising.

It is true (and I assume inevitable) that you get lag with that. For that reason, I have my "individual mode" set to "Sport" (or medium) engine response, comfy suspension, auto start/stop off, exhaust flaps closed. Basically its my comfortable cruising mode, but I needed to amp up the engine to get more immediate response. I'll use the base comfort engine setting if I'm truly cruising on the highway, but for commuting on a crowded freeway it's just not responsive enough.

[myzmak]

Originally Posted by F83

Alright here I go...

Keep in mind, I've got the Panamera Turbo with a Sport Chrono package and rear axel steering - so basically it's got all of the most important performance options.

So, with that out of the way, the car is a complete chameleon depending on how you've got the driving mode set. The difference in the modes is way way waaaay bigger than with the M4.

In comfort mode, the car is a bit like an S Class. Not bad handling, but pretty soft ride. Engine is in efficient mode, so cylinder deactivation will kick in - all of that can lead to a little bit of momentary lag when you hit it. But it's quiet, smooth and still quite fast.

If you go all the way to Sport+ (let's just pass the middle setting) - the car's suspension physically drops 2-3 inches and firms way way up. Engine RPMs go up as the PDK drops one or two gears. Exhaust flaps open.

Anyway, in Sport+ mode the thing is fucking ridiculous. MUCH faster than my (modified) M4. Car & Driver and Road and Track timed the 0-60 at 3 flat using launch control. Porsche claims 3.4. Truth is probably in the middle.

With the rear Axel steering, the car feels much smaller than it actually is. Honestly, when in Sport +, if you don't look in the rear view mirror you can convince yourself you are driving a 911. Sure it's heavy, but you never feel it - and the ridiculous rubber (325s on the rear, 275s on the front) you are NEVER lacking for grip.

Because it's got the Sport Chrono package, you also get a "Push to Pass" button on the steering wheel - which means that even if you are in comfort mode - if you push the button you get maximum (and instant) aggression for 30 seconds. It's hilarious - you go from S class smooth to raging "fuck you cut-off guy" immediately.

I still love my M4. It’s now mostly a summer/fair weather car these days.

But if you test a Panny - Go for the Turbo, Sport Chrono, with rear Axel Steering. I can't speak for the less optioned ones.

sounds and looks like a lovely beast. glad to hear you are enjoying it.

Originally Posted by Lups

That band has been around forever and I still can't
stand them! I can recommend you a ton of better bands in the genre if you're finally coming around to real music!

uh, yeah, no

[Lups]

Originally Posted by (((myzmak)))

uh, yeah, no

I'm so disappointed. I was holding my breath and all!

[Arcades]

Originally Posted by F83

I don't know about the Macan but the Panamera Turbo certainly does. In fact, I think it will take 8 cylinders all the way down to 4 if cruising.

It is true (and I assume inevitable) that you get lag with that. For that reason, I have my "individual mode" set to "Sport" (or medium) engine response, comfy suspension, auto start/stop off, exhaust flaps closed. Basically its my comfortable cruising mode, but I needed to amp up the engine to get more immediate response. I'll use the base comfort engine setting if I'm truly cruising on the highway, but for commuting on a crowded freeway it's just not responsive enough.

I went to get gas today for the Macan S. Complete fill up Shell 91, 15.6xx gallons. The meter in the car says 375 mileage full fill up after.. You know how much I filled up at? 230 give or take a few. Granted, I don't fuel starve the car, you know in the red area which is supposed to be another 60 mileage but that doesn't ignore I get no where CLOSE to 300 with City/Freeway mixed driving. Hardly even with Sport (we don't have Sport +).

I can do Sport setting for my M3 and get past 230 easy for City/Freeway with 12 or so gallons. lol Maybe Porsche's flat 6 might do better?

Oh, also apparently the Macan S doesn't have cylinder deactivation but the Panny Turbo definitely does with the V8, I do not believe any Macan has this. It makes more sense with the V8s so it goes into a 4 cylinder mode.

[Captain Blood]

Originally Posted by Arcades

I went to get gas today for the Macan S. Complete fill up Shell 91, 15.6xx gallons. The meter in the car says 375 mileage full fill up after.. You know how much I filled up at? 230 give or take a few. Granted, I don't fuel starve the car, you know in the red area which is supposed to be another 60 mileage but that doesn't ignore I get no where CLOSE to 300 with City/Freeway mixed driving. Hardly even with Sport (we don't have Sport +).

I can do Sport setting for my M3 and get past 230 easy for City/Freeway with 12 or so gallons. lol Maybe Porsche's flat 6 might do better?

Oh, also apparently the Macan S doesn't have cylinder deactivation but the Panny Turbo definitely does with the V8, I do not believe any Macan has this. It makes more sense with the V8s so it goes into a 4 cylinder mode.

The cylinder deactivation feature talk invariably makes one remember this:

https://autoweek.com/article/classic...-4-engine-1981

[F83]

Figured I may as well post some pictures of the Panny. Here you go;







That’s not my deployable spoiler, I’m just happy to see you


And of course, I can't post a picture of my cars without posting my M4. Asleep for the winter;