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      01-21-2022, 06:31 PM   #15049
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If you liked the F8x gen, y'all are crazy to miss out on this car because of GRILLES.
In Wealth of Nations Adam Smith noted a waste of resources impoverishes us all ...

Thus disliking the G8x just for the grilles is an impoverishment.

For example, you didn't mention the distended anus, lexus trunk or dodge hood.
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I spent a good bit of time around and behind the wheel of a manual G80 this week filming a project, and I have to say the design has grown on me.

Looks pretty great with black trim in Portimao Blue, and it’s fantastic to drive.
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If it was as simple as GRILLES but it's not
Sure. Do any of those other factors include the way it drives?



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I spent a good bit of time around and behind the wheel of a manual G80 this week filming a project, and I have to say the design has grown on me.

Looks pretty great with black trim in Portimao Blue, and it’s fantastic to drive.
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Sure. Do any of those other factors include the way it drives?
We've been through this: butterface != victory.

Didn't you ever live in a freshman dorm?

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Welp, GM officially announced the 2023 Escalade V:





No specs, but rumor is a super-charged V8.

Given the XM will be built on the X7 chassis, I believe these two will compete as there's not much else in the space if you want the power and size.

I have a feeling this will complicate things for the XM ... we'll find out if the I'm-so-rich-I-buy-ugly trend will become a thing, at least in the autos world.

I can't say the XM is uglier than the G8x to my eye, but it sure seems sloppier





and to be denoted as the ///M flagship for the 50th anniversary ... good gawd
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Watched this earlier - I'll be following this build to see what they do to address their main functional complaint about weight; it's going to be a big factor for them since it's going to directly impact their overhead on consumables. Also interested in how ZF holds up overtime to their level of abuse. They mentioned the brake system, which I'm wondering about - it's brake-by-wire so I imagine it'll be a PITA to swap our pads all the time, so I'm curious to see how the aftermarket brake companies address this with their kits.

But to play devils advocate here, Robert is still sticking to his guns: "If I wasn't a track user of this car, I wouldn't own it." He's like many of us in this very thread, in awe of the performance but completely turned off by design and some of BMW's behavior. It's a strange place to be and I think a lot of people are in this bucket... hence why G87 will be such an important release for BMW
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Decided to pick up another RWD one while I wait for my xDrive order.

If you liked the F8x gen, y'all are crazy to miss out on this car because of GRILLES.
We don't see the grilles in this view and still find it ugly...
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We don't see the grilles in this view and still find it ugly...
You know what's weird for me?

Think most of us (along with people from Rennlist apparently) have made our stance fairly clear already regarding the G80/G82. Performance isn't the issue, it is everything else.

Yet, the only ones that KEEPS bringing the damn subject back up seems to be the very same G80/G82 defenders like a broken record.

Like I said above, "Let it go." Annoying us won't make us suddenly change our minds about the ugly spawn of a Lexus IS and Dodge Charger.

Edit: I'll also point out. I legit thought he bought a Alfa Romeo Giulia because of the color and the side profile looks nearly the same as a Giulia. Only realizing after it wasn't, which was ironically disappointing.
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Welp, [COLOR="Blue"]GM officially announced the 2023 Escalade V:[/COLOR]

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No specs, but rumor is a super-charged V8.
The rumors are true, will be the same LT4 engine used in the C7 Z06 and CT5 Blackwing with a different tune, but still will sound glorious as seen here.

Does this change your stance on the Gator?

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The rumors are true, will be the same LT4 engine used in the C7 Z06 and CT5 Blackwing with a different tune, but still will sound glorious as seen here.

Does this change your stance on the Gator?

It would be more funny if they shoved the C8 Z06's new flat plane V8 in it.
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We don't see the grilles in this view and still find it ugly...
You know what's weird for me?

Think most of us (along with people from Rennlist apparently) have made our stance fairly clear already regarding the G80/G82. Performance isn't the issue, it is everything else.

Yet, the only ones that KEEPS bringing the damn subject back up seems to be the very same G80/G82 defenders like a broken record.

Like I said above, "Let it go." Annoying us won't make us suddenly change our minds about the ugly spawn of a Lexus IS and Dodge Charger.
exactly right. they are insecure and hope we would suddenly somehow start accepting the design, size and weight when it's a complete disaster. They don't know if it's a good purchase until they get likes. Pathetic! Also, they are allowed to come in here and troll while we are banned, which is actually great since I have exactly zero reason to visit that pathetic section.
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Watched this earlier - I'll be following this build to see what they do to address their main functional complaint about weight; it's going to be a big factor for them since it's going to directly impact their overhead on consumables. Also interested in how ZF holds up overtime to their level of abuse. They mentioned the brake system, which I'm wondering about - it's brake-by-wire so I imagine it'll be a PITA to swap our pads all the time, so I'm curious to see how the aftermarket brake companies address this with their kits.

But to play devils advocate here, Robert is still sticking to his guns: "If I wasn't a track user of this car, I wouldn't own it." He's like many of us in this very thread, in awe of the performance but completely turned off by design and some of BMW's behavior. It's a strange place to be and I think a lot of people are in this bucket... hence why G87 will be such an important release for BMW
so m4 gt3 is about 900lbs lighter. can't wait to see fuel burn, tire wear, pads etc. There is no way to hide weight! The chassis may be good at handling it but there are many other areas that can be impacted. These cars are most likely just 340i or 640i (same size) on steroids.
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exactly right. they are insecure and hope we would suddenly somehow start accepting the design, size and weight when it's a complete disaster. They don't know if it's a good purchase until they get likes. Pathetic! Also, they are allowed to come in here and troll while we are banned, which is actually great since I have exactly zero reason to visit that pathetic section.
I legit don't mind the people who get it. They like the car, so they got it.

That is fine with me. What I find annoying is repeating the same thing over and over again. Granted, we do the same thing, either in jest or whatever but this has been the same conversation over, and over again.

It is quite literally pointless and tiresome at the same time. The car isn't attractive to us (and others too), live with it. Plugging your ears going "LA LA LA LA" isn't going to change that narrative.

I am telling this to the two people in the past two pages who seem to always bring up the same thing, again and again.

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You know what's weird for me?

Think most of us (along with people from Rennlist apparently) have made our stance fairly clear already regarding the G80/G82. Performance isn't the issue, it is everything else.

Yet, the only ones that KEEPS bringing the damn subject back up seems to be the very same G80/G82 defenders like a broken record.

Like I said above, "Let it go." Annoying us won't make us suddenly change our minds about the ugly spawn of a Lexus IS and Dodge Charger.

Edit: I'll also point out. I legit thought he bought a Alfa Romeo Giulia because of the color and the side profile looks nearly the same as a Giulia. Only realizing after it wasn't, which was ironically disappointing.
Bought a couple budget Porsches and now you start talking spicy.
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exactly right. they are insecure and hope we would suddenly somehow start accepting the design, size and weight when it's a complete disaster. They don't know if it's a good purchase until they get likes. Pathetic! Also, they are allowed to come in here and troll while we are banned, which is actually great since I have exactly zero reason to visit that pathetic section.
I legit don't mind the people who get it. They like the car, so they got it.

That is fine with me. What I find annoying is repeating the same thing over and over again. Granted, we do the same thing, either in jest or whatever but this has been the same conversation over, and over again.

It is quite literally pointless and tiresome at the same time. The car isn't attractive to us (and others too), live with it. Plugging your ears going "LA LA LA LA" isn't going to change that narrative.

I am telling this to the two people in the past two pages who seem to always bring up the same thing, again and again.

Read.
yep no reason to project what they like onto others. It may work with kids but not here lol

clearly they are insecure … or just trolling cause they can't contribute constructively and just post garbage
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Bought a couple budget Porsches and now you start talking spicy.


Back to your overweight beaver you go...
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Bought a couple budget Porsches and now you start talking spicy.
That's hilarious considering your constant posts on this thread just to troll.

I have owned other Porsches that I never brought up, nor did I ever felt the need to. This thread has been about other stuff for more than half of the 600+ pages of it. You clearly haven't paid enough attention to care.

With that said, I'm just going to block your ass to save myself the trouble of replying.

Be an adult. And for your information, I was never banned on the G8x side. I never posted there as I have nothing to contribute.
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That's hilarious considering your constant posts on this thread just to troll.

I have owned other Porsches that I never brought up, nor did I ever felt the need to. This thread has been about other stuff for more than half of the 600+ pages of it. You clearly haven't paid enough attention to care.

With that said, I'm just going to block your ass to save myself the trouble of replying.

Be an adult. And for your information, I was never banned on the G8x side. I never posted there as I have nothing to contribute.
I think I was pretty fair, despite the fact you came at me with the, "Do you see what I drive?!" angle.

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The rumors are true, will be the same LT4 engine used in the C7 Z06 and CT5 Blackwing with a different tune, but still will sound glorious as seen here.

Does this change your stance on the Gator?

It would be more funny if they shoved the C8 Z06's new flat plane V8 in it.
That would just be hilarious. Imagine hearing a Ferrari-like shriek coming out of this 5000+lb brick
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Decided to pick up another RWD one while I wait for my xDrive order.

If you liked the F8x gen, y'all are crazy to miss out on this car because of GRILLES.
There's only one car that's barely worth buying from M, a 4-door manual M3, only because it can somewhat carry 5 people. I can't live with the cheap base urethane interior, so I would have to option up to $85K to fit my taste. Unfortunately they neutered the power level vs. comp so that more people are pushed towards the auto, so I am going in knowing that the brand doesn't give a sht about enthusiasts.

If I didn't need a 4-door, I would never look at a 2-door G82 M4, because at $90-95K I am looking at a nicely optioned 718 GTS 4.0, and if I were to invest a tiny more I can get a GT4 at 115K with carbon buckets. It would be a different story if M4 came with the full beans power, or a DCT, but it doesn't.
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Sure. Do any of those other factors include the way it drives?





Thank you!



Congratulations - almost there.



Fantastic shots. The 6MT is another classic enthusiast favorite in the making.
Not trying to be a dick, but have you actually driven something that is truly fantastic to drive and care about that?

ZF8, rubbery MT and non existent steering feel isn’t it. AKA G8X/any modern BMW.
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Sure. Do any of those other factors include the way it drives?





Thank you!



Congratulations - almost there.



Fantastic shots. The 6MT is another classic enthusiast favorite in the making.
Not trying to be a dick but have you actually driven something that is truly fantastic to drive and care about that?

ZF8, rubbery MT and non existent steering feel isn’t it. AKA G8X/any modern BMW.
Yeah but 0-60 bro and street light racing
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