Most reliable 650 whp turbos?

[McBobby Jr]

Originally Posted by N44RP

It sounds like there isn't an oem-like life span aftermarket turbo.

OEM turbos for the S55 are quite stout, my best recommendation would be to buy a 1500hp-60+psi capable turbo and run it at 24psi and it will last a long time lmao as well as make the 650whp on pump gas of course . chetrickerman Perhaps Chet Rickerman could chime in when it comes to reliability for the options out there. He’s used many turbos including hybrids and full frame turbos with tuning both done on his end and for his customers with both kinds of turbo setups I mentioned.

[JustAnothaM4]

Borg Warner EFR8474 single turbo can easily hit 650rwp

[Track/S]

Originally Posted by N44RP

It sounds like there isn't an oem-like life span aftermarket turbo.

4 years with hibrid turbos on bm3 stage2h, 0 issue.
The stock ones in stage2 would have broken in a short time.

[wheela]

Originally Posted by JustAnothaM4

Borg Warner EFR8474 single turbo can easily hit 650rwp

EFR for the win!

[N44RP]

Originally Posted by Track/S

4 years with hibrid turbos on bm3 stage2h, 0 issue.
The stock ones in stage2 would have broken in a short time.

I had a stage 2 tune on stock turbos for 60k miles over 4 years no issues, same with many many others with piles more miles
I appreciate the data point nonetheless

[chetrickerman]

Originally Posted by N44RP

It sounds like there isn't an oem-like life span aftermarket turbo.

Thats because the majority of people run their turbos pretty hard

Originally Posted by McBobby Jr

OEM turbos for the S55 are quite stout, my best recommendation would be to buy a 1500hp-60+psi capable turbo and run it at 24psi and it will last a long time lmao as well as make the 650whp on pump gas of course . chetrickerman Perhaps Chet Rickerman could chime in when it comes to reliability for the options out there. He’s used many turbos including hybrids and full frame turbos with tuning both done on his end and for his customers with both kinds of turbo setups I mentioned.

The key is to not run turbos on their edge, and use high quality oil.

[Track/S]

Originally Posted by N44RP

I had a stage 2 tune on stock turbos for 60k miles over 4 years no issues, same with many many others with piles more miles
I appreciate the data point nonetheless

This depends on driving mode, you can have 60k miles of highway, I have 50k km of hard driving in the mountains and track, the OEMs will die quickly in these conditions.

[n8dgr84]

Originally Posted by Track/S

This depends on driving mode, you can have 60k miles of highway, I have 50k km of hard driving in the mountains and track, the OEMs will die quickly in these conditions.

So, what "hybrid" turbos do you have, exactly?
Do most hybrids just last longer because they aren't spun super high RPM like the stock turbos?
What oil do you use?

[SYT_Shadow]

Stock tune, our CS turbos lasted around 25k miles and 150 track days, our gts1 turbos lasted like 30k, also stock tune. If someone is seriously tracking and is tuned, they don't last that long.
A proper hybrid turbo would have a thicker shaft to not bore into the mating surface, which is the weakness of the stock setup.

[Track/S]

Originally Posted by n8dgr84

So, what "hybrid" turbos do you have, exactly?
Do most hybrids just last longer because they aren't spun super high RPM like the stock turbos?
What oil do you use?

Made by myself.
Exactly, to reach pressure generated by OEM turbos they need less rpm, and backpressure also decreases.
I use mobil1 0w40

[sly1types]

Just saw the full race turbos are on sale. 👀

So tempting

https://www.full-race.com/2014-2020-...-turbo-upgrade

[Jbonly21]

Originally Posted by Track/S

Made by myself.
Exactly, to reach pressure generated by OEM turbos they need less rpm, and backpressure also decreases.
I use mobil1 0w40

So how can we get one of your turbos?

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Jbonly21

So how can we get one of your turbos?

We offer this kit on the website, the link is in my signature

[theweebabySeamus]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

We offer this kit on the website, the link is in my signature

You offer the turbos made by Track/S?

[Wanted_M]

Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

We offer this kit on the website, the link is in my signature

LM's?

[mike@x-ph.com]

Originally Posted by Wanted_M

LM's?

Yes we offer LM turbos

[Track/S]

Originally Posted by Jbonly21

So how can we get one of your turbos?

PM

[N44RP]

Originally Posted by sly1types

Just saw the full race turbos are on sale. 👀

So tempting

https://www.full-race.com/2014-2020-...-turbo-upgrade

Tempting indeed

[n8dgr84]

Originally Posted by OG Shark

We are a dealer for both Full Race and Mosselman - just fyi for transparency.

I love the Full Race turbos on the track. They make solid power with a good spooling characteristics and when tuned properly (Bend Calibration) they have excellent power delivery. The cars we have run them on have been very fast around the track. They make for a very solid improvement over the oem turbos. The cars are still easy to manage but pull extremely hard. Can see solid acceleration on this video (the back straight starts around 1:07) - this is E65 and with ambient at the time pushing 90*F. Car also has some decent aero on it adding some noticeable resistance on the top end. With decent launches down the straight I would subsequently hit right at 164 vmax still in this heat (I really botched the exit of 11 in this video and killed that run).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0uauqefTd4

The Mosselmans have so far shown to have excellent potential but I need to get a lot more seat time and data with them before finalizing my thoughts vs the Full Race. Definitely like what I see so far though. The M4 we have had them on for awhile is not a good comparison though with our Full Race setups - it has a built motor and PI so we are able to push the Mosselmans closer to their limit than we have had with the FR on stock motors. However we have recently installed a set of Mosselmans on a stock motor with the typical setup of Precision Raceworks lpfp, Dorch lift kit, and EU5s pushing out to full E85. This setup is very strong but I haven't been able to get the car [...]

Update time?

[sdhasher21]

Originally Posted by n8dgr84

Update time?

Seconded!