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      10-28-2014, 12:17 AM   #45
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They don't have them all on file by now?
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I don't want to listen to fake reproduced sound. Therefore no need for a stereo in my car or house anywhere for that matter. I only listen to live music with no amplification and if you listen anything else you really don't like music, because it's just fake, synthesized, factory produced garbage.
I recommend a single ended 300b(or a 2A3) based stereo system into high impedance speakers, and then tell me what you think of reproduced stero music? You won't believe it, but it's going to cost yah big to do it right! Yeah, my other crazy obsession, music.
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      10-28-2014, 10:07 AM   #47
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They don't have them all on file by now?
shut up, you make me seem IND whore and I'm a good girl!

Yes, she has.
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To sum this up for me, I wouldn't be happy knowing that an artificial sound was being piped in through the speakers just to keep all of us happy that we have a great sounding car. It's like I'm bullshitting myself into believing it sounds great when in reality most of the inside cabin sound is fake.

I'd rather just drive quieter on the inside listening to my music and then roll the windows down when I feel like hearing the real thing even if it's not perfect.

That's all I have to say on this matter....
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      10-28-2014, 10:46 AM   #49
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I have disabled mine and can't really tell a difference. Low RPMs seemed a little quieter, but everything else the same. If there was an option to make active sound louder, I would do it. I had it turned back on, and have no regrets. I have also unplugged the exhaust flaps so they are left wide open and the car is really loud inside now-proving to me that 97% of the noise you hear in the cabin is actual real exhaust noise. All the comments about not feeling right about having active sound in the car is laughable to me at this point.
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      10-28-2014, 12:16 PM   #51
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I have disabled mine and can't really tell a difference. Low RPMs seemed a little quieter, but everything else the same. If there was an option to make active sound louder, I would do it. I had it turned back on, and have no regrets. I have also unplugged the exhaust flaps so they are left wide open and the car is really loud inside now-proving to me that 97% of the noise you hear in the cabin is actual real exhaust noise. All the comments about not feeling right about having active sound in the car is laughable to me at this point.
Well....at least you're listening to the real deal now right...
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I don't want to listen to fake reproduced sound. Therefore no need for a stereo in my car or house anywhere for that matter. I only listen to live music with no amplification and if you listen anything else you really don't like music, because it's just fake, synthesized, factory produced garbage.
Sell out.

You probably listen to instruments like guitars and violins, what with all their hollow bodies providing amplification.

I refuse to hear any amplification of any kind. As such, the only thing I listen to is yodelling. Now THAT is a pure sound. Why can't BMW make the new M sound like yodelling?
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To sum this up for me, I wouldn't be happy knowing that an artificial sound was being piped in through the speakers just to keep all of us happy that we have a great sounding car. It's like I'm bullshitting myself into believing it sounds great when in reality most of the inside cabin sound is fake.
....not to drag this out, but the problem is that last sentence. Unless you have really driven one and done the comparison, you can't possibly make the judgment that 'most' of the sound is fake. Based on those who have posted on this thread and forum (that is, those who own, coded out the AS and then coded it back) little of the sound is amplification. Almost all of what you hear is just the car.

I suggest an open mind down the road.....
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      10-29-2014, 05:02 AM   #54
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I'm going to mod my exhaust, so I want the sound to be as "pure" as possible. I'll be doing my exhaust ASAP, so I'd like to try get my dealer to defeat the Active Sound upon delivery in hopes that they'll do it free at that time along with dealer prep stuff.
So what specifically do I tell my US Dealer to do upon delivery to defeat the Active Sound?
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I'm going to mod my exhaust, so I want the sound to be as "pure" as possible. I'll be doing my exhaust ASAP, so I'd like to try get my dealer to defeat the Active Sound upon delivery in hopes that they'll do it free at that time along with dealer prep stuff.
So what specifically do I tell my US Dealer to do upon delivery to defeat the Active Sound?
presuming the us software and hardware of the dealer is the same as in Germany, it should not take more than 5 minutes:

When the dealer reads the car's data via OBD there is a folder with all control units. one of it is ASD. put "deactivate ASD" from no to yes. that's it

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I have disabled mine and can't really tell a difference. Low RPMs seemed a little quieter, but everything else the same. If there was an option to make active sound louder, I would do it. I had it turned back on, and have no regrets. I have also unplugged the exhaust flaps so they are left wide open and the car is really loud inside now-proving to me that 97% of the noise you hear in the cabin is actual real exhaust noise. All the comments about not feeling right about having active sound in the car is laughable to me at this point.

well, this is your personal opinion. every ear is different. also taste.
to me it is a huge difference. i prefer it without asd. and of course you can hear it. and also it is not a question of louder or quieter. the synthetic touch is gone, that's it.

the idea of this thread is not rising again the discussion whether one likes asd or not.
it is for those who actually do not like it and looking for a solution to disable it without coding themselves.

decide for yourself, if you like it better without. if not, return it to ASD.
simple.
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      10-29-2014, 08:06 AM   #57
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If it can be turned off without to much trouble, I'll be first in line to try it as the idea of artificial bothers me, then decide. BMW has turned into a smart marketing company, for some reason they like this effect, maybe I'll be missing something if turned off but I won't be able to make that call till I hear the car without it.
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The 3% noise is just not that big of a deal to me. Car sounds PC correct as far as how loud it is. Do wish that on sport plus that it was a little more raw. Overall though I think the sound of the car is a good compromise for a GT, which is really what it is.
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ASD is enhancement tantamount to adding implants to a blow-up doll...artifice on every level....
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      10-30-2014, 05:14 AM   #60
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Has anyone confirmed is U.S. dealers can do this sound delete?
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      10-30-2014, 11:45 AM   #61
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I will be testing this out this weekend and will report back on my thoughts.

As I said previously, I never had issue with ASD in the first place but I am just curious what the difference is. Mostly I'm just concerned it might interfere with bluetooth phone conversations.
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The 3% noise is just not that big of a deal to me. Car sounds PC correct as far as how loud it is. Do wish that on sport plus that it was a little more raw. Overall though I think the sound of the car is a good compromise for a GT, which is really what it is.
I love that number. Yeah, BMW spent millions to develop a product for a 3% increase. But in fairness, 68.4% of all statistics are wrong.

BTW, there's a really easy way to test this 3%: with a quality Mic record your car inside and then outside. I've done it and they sound like completely different cars. Inside sounds, oddly, like a 4L V8 Audi to me. Outside sounds like a diesel shrimp boat. that's a hell of a 3%!
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If it can be turned off without to much trouble, I'll be first in line to try it as the idea of artificial bothers me, then decide. BMW has turned into a smart marketing company, for some reason they like this effect, maybe I'll be missing something if turned off but I won't be able to make that call till I hear the car without it.
Porsche does the same thing but I believe it's the exhaust sound they pump in the cabin, not the intake sound like BMW
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I love that number. Yeah, BMW spent millions to develop a product for a 3% increase. But in fairness, 68.4% of all statistics are wrong.

BTW, there's a really easy way to test this 3%: with a quality Mic record your car inside and then outside. I've done it and they sound like completely different cars. Inside sounds, oddly, like a 4L V8 Audi to me. Outside sounds like a diesel shrimp boat. that's a hell of a 3%!
If this is true, then I will have to spend thousands of dollars to get that V8 sound outside, that BMW has spent so much money on to give me on the inside, if I decide to disconnect and then find I have to replace the "diesel shrimp boat" sound with a real performance muffler system, so I won't be fooled!
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Man its not that bad.. from my understanding its only like 2-3%.

I personally love it
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I checked with my dealer and since I'm doing ED my dealership won't be doing anything with the OBD when it's "re-delivered" stateside. So I'll try to have them do the work when I go in for my first service.
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