The fruit of our labor: IND’s M4 gets the complete Fall Line suspension treatment.

Cloud9blue · 06-02-2015, 11:13 PM

The issue with those aftermarket brembo calipers (same ones are used on most of the Porsche 991 line ups) is the bridge that run across the caliper. If you want to swap your pads between track and street compounds, you have to remove the entire caliper to do so, which is a lot more work than the stock caliper, where you slide out the retainer pin and pull the pads out from the caliper opening. In addition, I know Porsche recommend not reusing the mounting bolt that holds the caliper to the hub carrier, which is also quite annoying. If you are track often enough, these additional maintenance nuisance will get tiresome very quickly.

Also, I think I mentioned this before, but those exposed monoballs and heim joints won't last long if the car is driven on the streets. Dirt and debris would quickly ruin a non-sealed solid bearing. I was hoping Fall-line would have addressed that already...

IND-Distribution · 06-03-2015, 10:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Cloud9blue

The issue with those aftermarket brembo calipers (same ones are used on most of the Porsche 991 line ups) is the bridge that run across the caliper. If you want to swap your pads between track and street compounds, you have to remove the entire caliper to do so, which is a lot more work than the stock caliper, where you slide out the retainer pin and pull the pads out from the caliper opening. In addition, I know Porsche recommend not reusing the mounting bolt that holds the caliper to the hub carrier, which is also quite annoying. If you are track often enough, these additional maintenance nuisance will get tiresome very quickly.

Also, I think I mentioned this before, but those exposed monoballs and heim joints won't last long if the car is driven on the streets. Dirt and debris would quickly ruin a non-sealed solid bearing. I was hoping Fall-line would have addressed that already...

Definitely true! I think that the caliper issue is one of those "debates for the ages". There those who enjoy the superior rigidity and pedal feel of a monobloc caliper, and there are those who prefer the faster pad changes enabled by a caliper with release pins. I think this is a question of how frequently a driver uses their car in a road course environment, and what pads they choose for track duty.

With that said, I do have "swing bridge" design brake kit solution in the works, also with Brembo. This particular kit will be a very exiting option indeed, and I look forward to showing it to BimmerPost when it is ready.

On the Fall Line side- the toe adjustment arms and sway bar end links are sold with rubber boots around the bearings, as shown here:

The front monoballs have a seal option also.

JNoSol · 06-04-2015, 05:22 PM

Great work, Ilia. Fall-Line and race suspension are great combos. How should one expect Fall-Line to ride/sound on the street with K&W CS? Would softer Swift springs be considered?

RingMeister01 · 06-05-2015, 07:53 AM

Well done

ilikebmxbikes · 06-07-2015, 10:24 AM

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I'd reply with something... but I got nothing... speechless.

Feeling is universal -

x.shell · 06-07-2015, 10:25 AM

Please PM the cost of the coilovers + camber plates.

Vectors2final · 06-07-2015, 10:40 AM

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Thank you! They are Volk ZE40 wheels- they're available in 18" and 19", but our set is in the 18" diameter. The ZE40 is a die forged wheel, meaning it provides incredible strength, low weight, and a very reasonable price point.

Really?

I got a pretty high quote on a set of these... Love that polished finish.

zamboni · 06-07-2015, 11:18 AM

Wow very impressive.

EzequielR · 06-07-2015, 11:21 AM

Secyyyy!

DandyKing · 06-07-2015, 11:28 AM

IND are a bunch of filthy plebs that provide awesome customer support and great range of products to boot. See that they get your hard earned schillings from taxing your serfs.

farishat · 06-07-2015, 11:44 AM

em, why?

F80NJM3 · 06-07-2015, 11:47 AM

Legitness!

Diver · 06-07-2015, 12:12 PM

Slick.

biglare · 06-07-2015, 12:57 PM

This suspension is solid and purpose built. Great job fellas!

I saw this first hand at Bimmerfest and it's no joke! Time to make some moves!

classyfast · 06-07-2015, 02:52 PM

Usd price 32k. Lol. Nice setup, do you guys actually track these project cars or do they just sit in your booths?

teaston · 06-07-2015, 03:32 PM

Great work!

However I can't understand why you'd put so much effort into the suspension but then put budget tyres (Falken) on?!

atopa2002 · 06-07-2015, 03:58 PM

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Originally Posted by teaston

Great work!

However I can't understand why you'd put so much effort into the suspension but then put budget tyres (Falken) on?!

It's called advertisement , most like they got these tires for free

fre2bpowerless · 06-07-2015, 04:29 PM

Beautiful pictures and beautiful car

aussiem3 · 06-07-2015, 04:52 PM

Amazing work. Attention details are unparalleled!

mkPOTO · 06-07-2015, 05:39 PM

Great work IND.. That Snap on box looks familiar.. I think I know who worked on your car

RyanBMW · 06-07-2015, 06:18 PM

I noticed the springs are Eibach?? Fall line doesn't make their own springs?

IMG · 06-07-2015, 07:05 PM

Impressive as always guys. Keep up the great work !

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